UAs, Barnacles & other mysteries Thread 7 - The Canonn

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3) What if each unknown probe points to a random barnacle planet and it's just sheer coincindence that the first one secured pointed to Merope 5C. This should be easily disproved as soon as more than a couple more are retrieved.

This one has been occurring to me a possibility.

Anti tin foil time :
There is still too much to actually do, to be trumping about with spreadsheets and suchlike. A planet is orders of magnitude too big to be scoured in a methodical way even by ship, let alone by srv. We don't even know if we should be srv, flying at 100m, 500m, 2000m to spot it, and people are all using their own method.

Get in your ship and hunt 5c in a way that is not going to bore the pants off you, or go liberate another UP.
 
Looking at Ecthelion's video of the UP on the planet surface I have a couple of observations
1) it appears to try to orient itself since it is falling vertically (smaller bulb downwards) but lands almost horizontally.
2) there appears to be an impact detection bug with it that should be reported, since it disappears below the surface before bobbing back up (assume this is a bug!!!)
3) possibly the same bug appears to prevent it orienting itself properly. It does appear to take up a compass bearing but as it's attempting to rotate it is not quite making it & snaps back. To me this could suggest that it is attempting to take up a preferred position.

Wonder what would happen if UPs are dropped in different orientations. if it landed larger bulb downwards would it plant itself to become a barnacle?

It would be nice to nudge one on the surface & see (a) if it is acting as a compass and (b) whether it would correct its attitude & maybe trigger some behaviour.

On my screen there were none of those graphical glitches, it remained still after landing. Regrettably I didn't see it as it fell as I dropped it and then moved away in my SRV as to help preserve the audio. Patua might have gotten a better look.

Definitely worth testing planet side behavior, I think everyone is very interested in that.
 
Get in your ship and hunt 5c in a way that is not going to bore the pants off you, or go liberate another UP.

I tend to do it upside down at 100m in a python while boosting. It's exciting and corrects for the python's abysmal downward looking visibility.
 
As Bungalo said, It was near one of the planets where I found mine. B 5c I think? It was the one with the planetary base. I would guess that it has to do with the shipping lanes. But it also could just be the whole system. Lots of threat 4 convoys spawned for me in the shipping lanes. Not the python one every time though. Lots of t9's.
 
This one has been occurring to me a possibility.

Anti tin foil time :
There is still too much to actually do, to be trumping about with spreadsheets and suchlike. A planet is orders of magnitude too big to be scoured in a methodical way even by ship, let alone by srv. We don't even know if we should be srv, flying at 100m, 500m, 2000m to spot it, and people are all using their own method.

Get in your ship and hunt 5c in a way that is not going to bore the pants off you, or go liberate another UP.

Hey, I was just going to write this.

Now I don't have to. Thanks.
 
There is no morse in the UP sound.
Those occasional noises made of 3/4 fast hi/low bip, some people are hearing, are there since day one, I know them very well, they are static, all the same at every cycle, in 2 or 3 different variants.
The other sounds are the well know hi/low Purrs we know very well, and the rare Whale Sound, like a Howl, different from the UA's, more deep, and high pitched.
Always whale like, a screaming whale ;)

Nothing more. If there's a mystery, it is not in the sound.

But there also seems to be a high pitched whine throughout it's soundscape. I was going to suggest trying to isolate that and slow it down... a lot (or of course work out how to do it myself).
 
Hi I am new here. I was wondering if it was suggested before that the symbol on the barnacles represent a certain orientation of Bernard's Loop from a certain star system, where the two smaller components represent nearby nebulae such as the Orion, Horsehead, Flame, and/or Witch head Nebula. To find the star system (alien's home), the smaller nebulae align with Bernard's Loop in to appear like the barnacle symbol. That would be easy for a developer to create, but difficult for players to solve the puzzle. Just a thought if not considered before. -AP67
 
Hi I am new here. I was wondering if it was suggested before that the symbol on the barnacles represent a certain orientation of Bernard's Loop from a certain star system, where the two smaller components represent nearby nebulae such as the Orion, Horsehead, Flame, and/or Witch head Nebula. To find the star system (alien's home), the smaller nebulae align with Bernard's Loop in to appear like the barnacle symbol. That would be easy for a developer to create, but difficult for players to solve the puzzle. Just a thought if not considered before. -AP67

Hi Astro. Quite a few times, yes. Hard thing to prove it is that it might look a bit like a nebula with other nebulae but it doesn't look exactly like the nebula and nebulae.. There are similarities but they aren't the same
 
Sorry had to sleep and trying to catch up. Just had a thought for you guys and gals searching 5c. Pay special attention to any ejector lines coming off craters. May be nothing but was just watching a vid on how they made the planets in game.

They actually design a set of rules, then let the planets form all natural like. Planets have tectonic plates, with determines where hills and valleys are. The colors on each planet indicate what the planet is made of and what minerals and metals are there. The ejector lines from crater are showing where the core metals and materials have been shot out across the planet. Even the stars in a system determines the type of planets and mats you will find in there. All real life scientific stuff, my Mrs doesn't find it exciting as I do haha. Point is ejector lines are chock full of good stuff, might be worth having an extra careful look if you happen to be near some on 5c.

I noticed someone mention the npc comms chatter of the convoy carrying the UP... They indicated they were not taking corrosive damage? This gave me an idea where someone else said the up may be 2 UA mating. Has anyone tried carrying two UA in a CRCR? Maybe add in a few meta alloys?

Also in regards to UA interactions with barnies. My thoughts keep going back to scanning. Whoever was saying there is no precedence for barnacle growing really got me thinking about it. If there were some kind of scanning combination that had to be done? Some things for me to try; scanning barnacle with x2 ua, scanning meta alloy (unscooped) with x2 Ua. Take MA from Barny A to Barny B (both ripe) and scan everything... I think about how the UA can scan in space but not on planet, so maybe we need to assist it with our SRV scanner to make it fulfill its purpose?

Had another thought as well regarding precedence (haha sorry it was a really good argument and got my cogs spinning haha). I was trying to compare the state changes to something that is in game already. I came up with the Powerplay/ political background sim. Now I personally haven't had much experience with it, but the way I understood it (correct me if I'm wrong) players influence the controlling factions (who is in power in any given system) and even the state of a system (boom, bust, civil war etc.). One player by the.selves may not have a significant influence, but many players working together can. To me this sounds extremely similar to my theory of how barnacles state change based on player influences, and I wouldn't have realized that without the precedence argument, so thankyou kindly :)
 
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But there also seems to be a high pitched whine throughout it's soundscape. I was going to suggest trying to isolate that and slow it down... a lot (or of course work out how to do it myself).

If you are slowing it down, you're already doing it wrong ;)
no need of external twitching or manipulating until now: a good hear + pen and paper at most.
Yes, I've used a tool to help me visualize the sound to "see" the morse, to help my hear. But nothing more: the UA sound was used as it was.

That said, I'm not saying not to do it: for example, slowing down the purrs, we discovered the tuba like sound, Close Encounters like, that was very nice to understand how the sound designers did it. It was useful for general knowledge, but not useful to solve the morse mystery at all.

So I was just advising, but everybody feel free to experiment at their will!
Cheers
 
Some good old fashioned tinfoil.

Here is Singa.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singa_(mythology) The singa represents a benevolent and protective power. The singa is described as "part human, part water buffalo, and part crocodile or lizard".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singa_(mythology)
 
Merope 5c has a radius of 1478km. If my math skills have not deserted me, this means a diameter of 2956 km, so a pole-to-pole route would be 2956 * Pi/2 km or about 4643 km long. The top speed of an SRV is about 35 m/s, so this would take about 1.5 days of round-the-clock driving time if we can keep top speed all the time. If we hit rough terrain (and Merope 5C has a lot of that), the speed will be lower. My gut guess is that the average speed is maybe a third of the top speed, so we are talking about 4.5 days. However, there is one show-stopper: At the equator, you would have a distance of 2956 km * PI / 36 = 258 km between SRVs, so we would miss stuff.

My estimate is that the scanner has a range of maybe 1 km. To ensure that we really cover everything, we need to place the SRVs 1 km apart at the equator, and then all drive to the pole, return to the equator, and repeat the procedure for the second half. We only need about 9300 commanders for this.

Piece of cake.

I admire your optimism and drive (pun intentional!), but why not wait to see if the UP will act as a compass to give a couple of cross-bearings to greatly simplify the search. We'Ve only seen one UP on the surface so far, but I suspect it was trying to point
 
Now on merope 5 c that is the right one isn't it? in a huge crater this planet is very odd looking or maybe just feels odd and that makes it feel strange and eerie.

anyway continuing search for odd things will report back
 
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