UAs, Barnacles & other mysteries Thread 7 - The Canonn

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Lazerus Artificial

Lazerus Artificial
Popov Le Magnifique said:
https://i.imgur.com/9xT6wX2.jpg

Importance of their songs confirmed once again.
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song? what have i missed? can you link me to that?
EDIT: oh THAT song...thought there was something new with the probes n stuff

Iontyr said:
I'm almost certain Jaques station was found way quicker than FDev were expecting, judging by the traffic and more importantly the messages that got posted in the imgur album. It looked like they were going to have it send out more corrupted messages until it finally got found. The later ones look especially dire, I wonder if it was going to be integrated in some sort of reveal? Guess we'll find out soon enough.
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think so too, all the description where he is, its an unbelivable lucky find then, lets see how Frontier reacts to this

What about the locations he jumped to before he ended up there? is there anything nearby that fits those descriptions?+

Its also pretty creepy to read the whole timeywhimey stuff, past present and future mixing together. seems like the UA caused him to defy the laws of time and space...if an UA can cause this, sending a station through time and space...seriously...thats creepy.

what do you think? will we repair his station? will he take the long way back then, or will he try another longrange jump?
or will we...encounter "them" now? i think it was said that "they" (assuming it means thargoid with all the witchspace stuff) are in the game allready, waiting for us to find them
 
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Iridium Nova

Iridium Nova
Julio Montega said:
While mining i reconned that prospector limpets and collector drones
emit sound similar to the ua humming.
Heard that aswell?

The new probe looks weird, but i wager it is
a "seed" for barnacles.
Almost looks like a mobile hatchery to me.
That lower larger compartment digging into the surface and unfolding,
"hatching" all the spawn into the ground generating a barnacle site.

Oh and on the note of barnacles in witchspace nebuale:
Was there looked, found none, i put that one on the buggyness of instancing
and the spawn rate back then. Curse it!
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Has anyone tried taking an unknown probe to a good barnacle site in another nebula, dropping it, bookmarking the location, and then coming back to check on it after a week or so?
 

Dommarraa

Dommarraa
Iridium Nova said:
In the old days, it was possible to force a misjump of your hyperdrive. I believe this was one way to actually reach the space between systems. Also, it was possible for hyperdrives to malfunction if they hadn't been serviced in over a year. This could result in misjumps. I wonder if we could find a way to do this somehow...
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It was IIRC, DB who told us that miss jumps were not on the game. For once, he didn't add 'yet'
 

subhouse07

subhouse07
Man something about the Jaque thing creeps me out. Mainly how his final mayday message started sounding all garbles towards the end, then was followed up with totally normal local news. It's entirely possible (and likely) that it is a bug. But what if that population of 750 isn't human???

Jaques has his wacky witchspace adventure (as Halsey did), but he makes it out with his sanity. That line about the artefacts singing and then finding you...suuuper ominous. It seems like some form of interaction took place between the UAs and Jaque. But he collects himself and tries to get things going again, sends out some distress calls each ending with "message corrupted" or whatever. But that last one...was it the message being corrupted that caused the words to start jumbling up, or was it Jaque himself being taken over by an alien entity? Perhaps if the UAs can overload your jump drives and get you stranded in witch space, they come alive or reveal something to you. Could be that witch space is their natural environment.

Anyways, what are we looking at here? Is Jaque just sitting out there with some *bugged* bgs stuff happening? is this whole station in some sort of Philadelphia experiment time warp scenario? Is any of it real or have the UAs used their scan data from all our ships to construct a bizarro star port? Whatever the case, I'm only a few thousand light years away so I'll be making my way out there promptly.

damajoo said:
Please check for yourself. Is that really a coincidence ? Placing Jaques somewhere, where a "copy" of something this obivous is ?
Really ?

i'm confused right now ...
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I've seen many witch heads, Californias, and Pleiades scattered throughout the galaxy. The nebula models are re-used a ton. I don't know though, maybe there is something to it if they are oriented the same as the originals though.
 
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Râgnôs

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subhouse07

subhouse07

Râgnôs

Râgnôs
subhouse07 said:
Even so, just happening upon it 22000 lys away from the bubble. It would take a whole lot of searching in galaxy map or a whole lot of luck.
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Well, yeah since you can only zoom out so far and are limited to a 50Ly radius visibility area. You'd need pure luck, insane determination or inside information all of which are possible in a large community.
 

Leskit

Leskit
damajoo said:
"Houston, we have a Problem ..."

First of all, i don't know if the graphical assest for Nebulas are used more than once. I would be surprised if it would be like that, as they represent "real life data", don't they ?

However, regarding Jaques Position:

1. The Nebula looks like Witchhead, after closer inspection, i tend to say it is a 1:1 copy (graphical)
2. There are two other Nebulas which are :
- DRYOOE PROU AA-A H131 which looks like a 1:1 copy of the California Nebula
- DRYOOE PROU AA-A H51 which looks like a 1:1 copy of the Pleiades (but not 100% sure as with the other two)
3. all three of them have similar relative position to each other like the "original ones", but turned and tilted ('triangle like')

Please check for yourself. Is that really a coincidence ? Placing Jaques somewhere, where a "copy" of something this obivous is ?
Really ?

i'm confused right now ...
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I noticed that too! I looked aroudn the galaxy and there are a few other nebula that use the same WHN graphic.
The NGC 281 nebula (-6,600/-883/-4,300), Leamae aa-a h55 (-11,800/-372/20,600), Floaln aa-a h43 nebula (-12,400/-1,261/15,600). I'm sure there are more-looks like there really aren't many nebula models :(
 

damajoo

damajoo
Leskit said:
I noticed that too! I looked aroudn the galaxy and there are a few other nebula that use the same WHN graphic.
The NGC 281 nebula (-6,600/-883/-4,300), Leamae aa-a h55 (-11,800/-372/20,600), Floaln aa-a h43 nebula (-12,400/-1,261/15,600). I'm sure there are more-looks like there really aren't many nebula models :(
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okay, i was unaware, that nebula models are used more than once. However, the relative position of these three copies, is similar to the original ones. The spacing is closer, though. So encountering one copy, or two, or even three - granted. But with such a similar layout ? Not saying there is anything behind it, i was just wondering.
 

Caldeon

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damajoo said:
okay, i was unaware, that nebula models are used more than once. However, the relative position of these three copies, is similar to the original ones. The spacing is closer, though. So encountering one copy, or two, or even three - granted. But with such a similar layout ? Not saying there is anything behind it, i was just wondering.
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There is a ton of nebulae looking like witchhead. At some point a saw 5 of them at the same time. And there are even much more. I already hate that black/blue nebula that looks like a pair of wings or an hourglass :)
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
slartybartfast said:
What single atoms of gas suspended in a vacuum transmitting sound? though as i type this i get the whole tis only a game and do you expect the discovery scanner to work you total plank... so i dunno ignore me tired.
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There is no sound in space. You can however get the sound of an object in space, by analyzing the light (EM waves) from it.
This is a filed of science called Asteroseismology. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroseismology
 

CookieJarviz

CookieJarviz
WE FOUND JACQUES!!! WE FOUND HIM!

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Vision1776

Vision1776
400 billion star systems and someone finds one star slightly out of place?
I hope this was a legit find, not some decompile crap or insider leak. Regardless it (Jaques Station) is found and that saves me tons of time LOL. Only problem is 22K LY away from me.

BTW is there going to be any sort of organized search of Merope 5C? At this point I feel like randomly searching everywhere isnt going to get us anywhere. Unless if by another random miracle, someone finds a needle in a hay-stack. ;)
 
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Omategomatete

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Han_Zen said:
There is no sound in space. You can however get the sound of an object in space, by analyzing the light (EM waves) from it.
This is a filed of science called Asteroseismology. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroseismology
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Dont tell that to the UA, it might get upset and sing you a song ;)

On a more serious note though, does that mean our ships computer is analysing the electromagnetic waves off the UA? If so that's the noise the actual canister makes, not the UA?

Thanks,

Omate.
 
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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
BluWolve said:
Well that proves (to me at least) that the barnacle states are NOT on a set cycle.

But the question remains, what exactly determines the state changes? I'm still inclined to believe it is a player interaction and will continue to figure it out as best I can.
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Pretty sure MB mentioned a timer-see the 2.1 livestream vid
 

LordZoltan

LordZoltan
Echo location with radio waves is simple: it's demonstrated by the Russian morse message being bounced off Venus and picked back up on the way back.

Granted, the mechanics for how a radio signal 'bounces' is entirely different to how a sound wave bounces (atmospheres, magnetospheres etc). The biggest problem, I fear, is the idea that such techniques could detect anything outside of the local system - because otherwise you're waiting years for the signal to reflect; plus dispersion will probably render the bounced signal undetectable. Anyway.

Exciting news re the new UP - congrats once again Pat!

And on Jacques - seems that the inference is that he/it misjumped and the UAs were directly involved in that. Not necessarily caused, but definitely involved. I really like Han_Zen's idea, and leads to the idea that it was the presence of the UAs which prevented Jacques going the same way as SS1...

And I suspect the misjump (for what would appear to be what it was) is directly related to the size of Jacques - I suggest that this sort of thing can only happen to very massive objects passing through hyperspace, due to the increased energies involved and, no doubt, the massive 'wake' such an object would create in hyperspace, possibly attracting attention.

That the UAs might have prevented Jacques from being destroyed is very interesting: why? Suggests either that UAs offer specific protection against such shenanigans; or that the agent responsible for pulling objects like SS1 and Jacques out recognises the UA and stops whatever destructive side-effect such interference has.

Interesting times.

Edit: oh, and anyone fancy a bet on whether barnacles might be found out in those nebulae?
 
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Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Omategomatete said:
Dont tell that to the UA, it might get upset and sing you a song ;)

On a more serious note though, does that mean our ships computer is analysing the electromagnetic waves off the UA? If so that's the noise the actual canister makes, not the UA?

Thanks,

Omate.
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The ship computer does that with everything in space. In RL we are already doing this for far away stars. I guess the sensors in 3302 are a bit more sensitive, but the math is the same.

Professor Don Kurtz is an expert in the field. He made this nice lecture: https://youtu.be/wwy-9TMYZso


Edit: Forgot to say that asteroseismology uses sphercal harmonics theory to analyze the light from the stars. Kurtz refers to this as 'The Real Music of the Spheres'.
 
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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Popov Le Magnifique said:
https://i.imgur.com/9xT6wX2.jpg

Importance of their songs confirmed once again.
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Has anyone taken a pic of Jaque's commodities screen to see what he requires?


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MyklAtrum said:
Dammit. Between this and Kerrash popping in and saying "I like to singa" I'm starting to think we need to sing to the damned things. Anyone speak whalesh?
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Dory
need to find her :rolleyes:
 
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