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Will you pay for the refunds? This would be a fundamental change in a major selling point of the game.
My open letter to Fdev
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Will you pay for the refunds? This would be a fundamental change in a major selling point of the game.
And it doesn't matter how many people would be unhappy with your 'solution' I suppose? We could get into the whole just get rid of open instead dance but it's pointless, modes are here to stay, as you say, 'just deal with it'.
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FDEV said NO get over it.
People are happy, they are unhappy that their idea of a story line progression isn't the same as FDev's and having a Biatchfit.
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And risking a MASS refund...great idea! ITs not like we got that before when offline mode was removed completely. And where is your "enough player unhappy" we all know its the vocal minority that complains daily about anything in hope to change it on the forum.And no it doesnt put everybody on a "even" par. You force people that dont want to interact with certain player type to deal with them. Rather then making "open" more attractive from a community standpoint...the only ones that screw with that are PvP-Groups that cant think behind their gunbarrel, disrespecting player groups with PvE rulesets and think tehy do the right think and savious of Ed.
They're not participants! They wrote the rules and can literally do whatever they want with them whenever they want - they are the gamemaster. And when things didn't go the way they wanted for their railroad story they heavyhandedly changed the rules underneath their players and then tried to justify it with some random 'lore' post-hoc. It stinks, regardless of whether you agree witht he 13ths actions in the Mobius Private GRoup or not.
We know how reliable the Empire is when it comes to protecting alien lifeforms xD Better let the Federation deal with this
They are participants as they control the three major powers of the game, if you like it or not doesn't matter.
Give me one good reason why the Federation shouldn't be able to lift a lockdown in a system controlled by a federal faction?
This would have been a great way to deal with it! Allow the blockade to stand but have the Emperor condemn and ostracise the pilots. Pilots officially affiliated with Empire powers suffer Fines and/or demotion, perhaps even exile and those pilots not officially aligned with an Empire Power who claimed to act int he nae of the Empire given an empire-wide bounty on their heads!
This would have been engagement, agency, consequence, emergent gameplay and a dynamic universe. Instead....
No, they are the gamemaster controlling some major NPCs. Of course they should be able to, but they should do it by turning up with a fleet of ship, breaking the blockage, attacking the players who did it and then restoring order to the system... which takes time. I'd say it takes, say, three days perhaps? Then perhaps the Feds could have extended the CG with an increased security presence.
This also would have been engagement, agency, consequence, emergent gameplay and a dynamic universe.
Instead we go an insta-fix under-the-hood rules change followed by a one paragraph post-hoc justification and no obvious impact in-game on the way the system plays or feels. Which sucks.
Actually a great idea, after all people complain PP is broken, a bolt on to ED etc. Make it so your pledge means something if you do something which is against your Major Fraction/ Alignment.
I for one want FDev to progress stories how they want them too with certain points in the story line we as players choose with opposing CG's (participation is our vote). Not everything has to be conflicting in ED nor seen as important turning points. What if FDev's idea is Feds succeed in this CG (ie why there is no counter CG) so that a few weeks or 2.2 there is some Player based choice which opens up the storyline later. Don't see people rewriting books cause they didn't like how a mid story character decision was wrong in their opinion. No they read on or stop reading.
I for one want FDev to progress stories how they want them too with certain points in the story line we as players choose with opposing CG's (participation is our vote). Not everything has to be conflicting in ED nor seen as important turning points. What if FDev's idea is Feds succeed in this CG (ie why there is no counter CG) so that a few weeks or 2.2 there is some Player based choice which opens up the storyline later. Don't see people rewriting books cause they didn't like how a mid story character decision was wrong in their opinion. No they read on or stop reading.
But they just took the realistic approach, let the feds call the dude who closed the market and made him reopen it. How they should do it is entirely a matter of opinion.
Besides, Zac and the article both mentioned that the presence of Federation forces in the area has been increased due to the blockade of the 13th.
Is there a rule which prohibits superpowers from lifting lockdowns? Or what rule change are you talking about?
You're missing the point. It doesn't really matter what flavour text is appended to what they do to lift the lockdown, the key should have been that whatever it was it didn't just happen instantly, that it takes some time and that it had an effect on the tone/character/behaviour of the system! That way you're not just nullifying these players efforts. Instead you are letting them see that thir actions have a distinct and clear effect on the universe. It is all about having clear agency in the game.
Maybe there wouldn't be so much tears, if Every week each Major Fraction had some CG which is independent of each other where at certain points Story lines merge to come opposing CG. The outcome then steers a different set of independent CGs for each Major fraction. This will give the bored kids some structured play. Problem is it means 3 times more work for FDev to produce 3 Separate CGs a week all to steer them together at certain points.
one of the major selling points of the game is player interaction with other players, it is advertised as a multiplayer/MMO game to this very day.
are you going to pay for the refunds of people that got baited in to buy the game now ? from 1.7 million copies sold(i know that some of you bought it multiple times to "support" Fdev) you have maybe 2500 players in game right now and it will peak at around 4000 again tonight(european time) are you going to pay refunds to around a million of players?
First: It took some time to lift the lockdown. 12 hours at least. That's a normal and plausible reaction time. Why should it take three days and a complete halt of the operation to reopen the market? That makes no sense.
Second: FDev acknowlegded the player effort in an article and strengthened the federal presence in the area as a consequence. Like I already said.
Third: What kind of effect on the tone/character/behaviour of the system are you imagining? And are they even possible with the current BGS or would you need changes? Or are you talking about player behaviour? Please explain that point.
Fourth: What should have been is entirely your opinion.
I think we need a 'Blockade' state for the BGS. Killing of a significant number traders and system authority triggers first lockdown for some time, if it continues the Blockade state is triggered and overrides the Lockdown state. The markets reopen and system authority in the system increases. Delivering commodities and handing in bounties works against the Blockade, killing traders and system authority works towards it.
At the same time pirate activity should increase, too.
Or, if the controlling faction belongs to a superpower and there's a rivaling faction of another superpower in the system, a militia type of NPCs could spawn, which hunts down traders and opposes system authority.
This would require a removement or a reduction of the minimum duration of the lockdown.
Incentives for blockade running then could be higher prices in the markets for basic low price items such as food cartridges etc.
Could have some negative effects on the controlling faction, too. For example if the Blockade goes for a fixed time, let's say more than two weeks, the states Famine and Civil Unrest could trigger, depending on how sucessful the blockade runners were.
Just a little idea of mine, feel free to pick it apart.
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selective fact picking.
it is advertised as MP / MMO. So is warthinder and WOT...
and in the loosest possible sense it IS. however it is also advertised as being able to play it solo, or just with a group of people IF that is what you choose.
DB has gone out in the media and stated that Elite is technically an MMO but that is isnt one in the general sense that many people think of an MMO. (call me on it please, and on the condition that you will accept DBs answer if i link to it i will spend time out of my day to link to the interview)
one would think he is more qualified than most to say what he thinks it is or isnt. With games like WOT and warthunder being heavily marketed as MMOs then FD kind of would have been stupid to NOT sell it as one. the BGS alone ticks every box in the literal sense.
but the day to day gameplay even DB does not think it is truly an mmo in the way many consider it.
no i could not resist.... i am sure certain people will not let facts get in the way however
https://www.kickstarter.com/project...erous/comments?cursor=1705398#comment-1705397
I don't see this as an MMO in the traditional sense, unless you think of Call of Duty as an MMO. In E
you will have the concept of saving and reloading, and choosing a limited group of real people that can appear in your game (which could be just you alone), including allowing strangers to appear.and then talk on the BGS, multiplayer and community goals - albeit not called that then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uKD1ap5hsI
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You have all of that. You also have no idea how many people are in game. This game has multiplayer. It also has solo and private groups which have equal impact, as advertised.
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