General / Off-Topic The world is crazy. The important events comes at an incredible speed

Just imagine how bad it would be, if you became aware of all the shootings in the USA, every day, as and when they happened.

Lots of shooting happens a lot of places, don't even have to go to the US. They (the news) just don't write about it if its common.
 
There are more shootings in context of population in the United States, compared to EU countries for sure, anyone can see the flaw in US gun laws. Unless you are willfully ignorant, plain stupid, or a top dog within the NRA and or GOP. They won't even agree on common sense gun laws like getting rid of that pathetic open carry, or even make it so owners need to get training courses (self defence handguns only if you ask me).
 
It's hard to be sympathetic for Muslims. Give them elections and they vote in militants and hardliners, then wonder why their countries are going down the s-bend. Thankfully Indonesia is an exception.

Nothing to do with being a Muslim. Everything to do with being rural folk with poor access to education. The people in Istanbul and other bigger cities in Turkey are Muslims as well, by and large (there are other religions in Turkey as well) and most of them definitely do not vote for him.

Muslims are just one flavour in which the old Zarathustran mythology has branched in the last few thousand year. There is nothing special about it in good or bad.
 
The statistics are clear on wars and violence. People just don't get the right image because information is much more free these days. The eighties is remembered as a peaceful era by many, but when you look at the numbers of people died in wars, through terror, famine, assorted violence, it is easy to see this is a vastly different time, and for the better.

If you had to live in any time in out history and wouldn't know the colour of your skin and gender, this would be the only sane choice. Hopefully our future is better still in this regard.
 
"He was later sent to a psychiatric hospital and authorities said they had found no links to Islamic extremism" according to BBC News.

Attack in the ax in a train in Germany: a flag of the Islamic State found at the aggressor, announced the bavarian Minister of the Interior, Joachim Herrmann, on Tuesday. And he shouted "Allahu Akbar" during the aggression
 
That's the problem with extremists. They don't have to have any known ties to an organization. We're not fighting IS, or Al Qaeda, or whatever. We're fighting an idea. It doesn't respect sovereignty, or borders, or rules of warfare. The guy right next to you, he could believe in that idea. He's not a terrorist per se, but could just wake up one day and decide killing infidels is a good thing to do.
 
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More than 97% of the population is muslim in Turkey

That just makes my point stronger (I was still correct that not every Turk is a Muslim). Less than half of the voters support Erdoğan, so it's not that: they are Muslim = support the islamist wannabe dictator.

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That's the problem with extremists. They don't have to have any known ties to an organization. We're not fighting IS, or Al Qaeda, or whatever. We're fighting an idea. It doesn't respect sovereignty, or borders, or rules of warfare. The guy right next to you, he could believe in that idea. He's not a terrorist per se, but could just wake up one day and decide killing infidels is a good thing to do.

I'll add this here as well as the Brexit thread. John Cleese on Extremism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLNhPMQnWu4
 
That's the problem with extremists. They don't have to have any known ties to an organization. We're not fighting IS, or Al Qaeda, or whatever. We're fighting an idea. It doesn't respect sovereignty, or borders, or rules of warfare. The guy right next to you, he could believe in that idea. He's not a terrorist per se, but could just wake up one day and decide killing infidels is a good thing to do.
The problem, though, is that if somebody who engages in an act of mass murder is a Muslim, then it's portrayed as Islamic terrorism. If the person is a white, right wing extremist then they're portrayed as a good old fashioned nutter. This helps drive the xenophobia that's currently rampant in some places.
 
The problem, though, is that if somebody who engages in an act of mass murder is a Muslim, then it's portrayed as Islamic terrorism. If the person is a white, right wing extremist then they're portrayed as a good old fashioned nutter. This helps drive the xenophobia that's currently rampant in some places.

This, absolutely this. In Finland we've had xenophobic "close-the-borders" fanatics throwing molotov cocktails into buildings with refugee children sleeping inside. Even a hate crime motivated arson isn't labelled terror in the press or by the police when the perpetrator is a white non-muslim. Apparently it was "a drunken whim". :mad: The double standard is as blatant as it is dishonest and disgusting.
 
The problem, though, is that if somebody who engages in an act of mass murder is a Muslim, then it's portrayed as Islamic terrorism. If the person is a white, right wing extremist then they're portrayed as a good old fashioned nutter. This helps drive the xenophobia that's currently rampant in some places.

This, absolutely this. In Finland we've had xenophobic "close-the-borders" fanatics throwing molotov cocktails into buildings with refugee children sleeping inside. Even a hate crime motivated arson isn't labelled terror in the press or by the police when the perpetrator is a white non-muslim. Apparently it was "a drunken whim". :mad: The double standard is as blatant as it is dishonest and disgusting.
You can probably blame the media outlets for that. Those labels get affixed to suit whatever political need they deem is appropriate.
 
Yes 40 % only support Erdogan

What is happening over there looks like the classic fascist takeover, with just a bit of Persian flavour.

This is why the rise of populism in Europe is so dangerous. Those jolly seeming people like Farage, Le Penn, Soini, etc are playing with these very same forces. They tell the story of "good, decent, normal people" and how they represent the true voice of the people. Those who aren't a part of the proper English / French / Finnish monoculture are the enemy.

The right wing populism in Europe plays with fascism, and that stokes the very worst elements in people.
 
That's the problem with extremists. They don't have to have any known ties to an organization. We're not fighting IS, or Al Qaeda, or whatever. We're fighting an idea. It doesn't respect sovereignty, or borders, or rules of warfare. The guy right next to you, he could believe in that idea. He's not a terrorist per se, but could just wake up one day and decide killing infidels is a good thing to do.
There is not, nor has there ever been any organisation which identifies itself as "Al Queda". Did you not know this? Most people don't it would seem
 
The problem, though, is that if somebody who engages in an act of mass murder is a Muslim, then it's portrayed as Islamic terrorism. If the person is a white, right wing extremist then they're portrayed as a good old fashioned nutter. This helps drive the xenophobia that's currently rampant in some places.

This, absolutely this. In Finland we've had xenophobic "close-the-borders" fanatics throwing molotov cocktails into buildings with refugee children sleeping inside. Even a hate crime motivated arson isn't labelled terror in the press or by the police when the perpetrator is a white non-muslim. Apparently it was "a drunken whim". :mad: The double standard is as blatant as it is dishonest and disgusting.

This seems logical in so far as the Europe is Christian roots. And the white man is on his own land before the Muslim who originally comes from Maghred and Asia
 
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