General / Off-Topic Shooting in a mall in Munich

[Patrick_68000]

Mate. With all Offense Intended as I am fed up with it now!
Your Racist and Anti Islamic comments are not Welcome.

You sound like an Ultra Right Wing Demagogue putting Fault for anything and everything towards the Islam and its nauseating to be Honest.
I would ask that you calm yourself and stop with this. The last thing we need is Racism Hate Speeches Blaming some Ethnic Group for the Worlds Problems!


Greetz Sun

Apparently you did not understand that I make the irony. Of course one should not generalize. No racism here. You think that you're the only one to have a faculty of discernment ? I note only that many current attacks come from the muslim world, what is TRUE ! even if this does not suit you --- This does not mean that all muslims are guilty. You should recover your minds and to stop giving lessons to everybody. Your words are not the gospel truth

 

[Aewarin Jameson]

Apparently you did not understand that I make the irony.

I would suggest you stop - you're not very good at it and come across as .. well, French

 

[Patrick_68000]

I would suggest you stop - you're not very good at it and come across as .. well, French

But it is a coalition against me !!!

 

[Demascus]

Ah! the "evolution of man", this view point always makes me chuckle. The outcries from university professors and students "Its the 21st century why are we still eating animals and killing each other!?". If history has taught us anything it is that mankind has been violent, is violent and will continue to be violent for years to come. However violence can come easily to others due to culture influence, religion, and upbringing. On the flip side those very same things can instill morality, ethics, harmony and forgiveness. I would argue that is it the constant struggle against man's own violent nature that makes the good that mankind can do that much more beautiful. Man has not "evolved" to a state where we can "all get along" and no longer, murders, cheats, s and steals from one another and to think so is nothing but naive.

You sound like an Ultra Right Wing Demagogue putting Fault for anything and everything towards the Islam and its nauseating to be Honest.
I would ask that you calm yourself and stop with this. The last thing we need is Racism Hate Speeches Blaming some Ethnic Group for the Worlds Problems!

Islam is not a race, it's a religion and one with a rather violent history, at worst he is a bigot not a racist.

Whether or not this turns out to be an Islamic extremists, members of Daesh or just a plain nutters... Islam is in dire need of reform and modernization.

 

[Minonian]

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Paranoia is not a strength though, as it is not rational. Be alert and awake, sure, but don't let fear control you.

True. It's not about fear. Poor choice of word.

 

[FuzzySpider]

Islam is not a race,

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/race?s=t

5. any people united by common history, language, cultural traits, etc.: the Dutch race.

it's a religion and one with a rather violent history,

Ignorant crap.

at worst he is a bigot not a racist.

And anti-Islamic bigotry is more acceptable to you?

Whether or not this turns out to be an Islamic extremists, members of Daesh or just a plain nutters... Islam is in dire need of reform and modernization.

Whether or not this is Islam - let's blame Islam!

And people wonder why this conflict is brewing.

I note only that many current attacks come from the muslim world, what is TRUE !

What is true...?

https://www.europol.europa.eu/conte...ion-terrorism-situation-and-trend-report-2014

(Click the PDF link on that page for the full report on terrorism in the EU area).

 

[Becks]

The Munich police just confirmed that there is no evidence for an islamistic motivation of the amok run yesterday.

The perpetrator was a 18 year old german-iranian pupil, suffering from depression and obsessed with amok runs and mass shootings. It's still unclear where he got the gun, but the police suspects it is an illegal gun due to the milled out serial number.

As of now ten people, including the perpetrator, died.

 

[FuzzySpider]

The Munich police just confirmed that there is no evidence for an islamistic motivation of the amok run yesterday.

The perpetrator was a 18 year old german-iranian pupil, suffering from depression and obsessed with amok runs and mass shootings. It's still unclear where he got the gun, but the police suspects it is an illegal gun due to the milled out serial number.

As of now ten people, including the perpetrator, died.

Here he is.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...man-took-part-in-shouting-match-during-attack

I think things will be somewhat clearer, given the mans instability.

 

[Sunleader]

Apparently you did not understand that I make the irony. Of course one should not generalize. No racism here. You think that you're the only one to have a faculty of discernment ? I note only that many current attacks come from the muslim world, what is TRUE ! even if this does not suit you --- This does not mean that all muslims are guilty. You should recover your minds and to stop giving lessons to everybody. Your words are not the gospel truth

Mate if you were trying to be Funny sorry you Failed. You aint Funny. You keep calling Islam Islam Islam is Fault for everything.
And its Disturbing.
Just so you know. 90% of the Crimes in Europe are still Committed by Christians or other Non Islamic People Born in Europe. Just that nobody Talks about this.

Ah! the "evolution of man", this view point always makes me chuckle. The outcries from university professors and students "Its the 21st century why are we still eating animals and killing each other!?". If history has taught us anything it is that mankind has been violent, is violent and will continue to be violent for years to come. However violence can come easily to others due to culture influence, religion, and upbringing. On the flip side those very same things can instill morality, ethics, harmony and forgiveness. I would argue that is it the constant struggle against man's own violent nature that makes the good that mankind can do that much more beautiful. Man has not "evolved" to a state where we can "all get along" and no longer, murders, cheats, s and steals from one another and to think so is nothing but naive.



Islam is not a race, it's a religion and one with a rather violent history, at worst he is a bigot not a racist.

Whether or not this turns out to be an Islamic extremists, members of Daesh or just a plain nutters... Islam is in dire need of reform and modernization.

Ehm Mate.
No Offense.
But in terms of Violence, Wars and Terror. Christinaity is Leading by Miles as the most Violent Religion in History.

The Difference is we were usually not the Underdog in this.
We werent so weak that we needed to sned Suicide Attackers which killed but handful People with an Attack.
We just Marched right in and Executed, Tortured and       Thousands of People.

Maybe Remember but not so long ago the USA Lead a War against Iraq claiming they would support Terrorism and Prepare for an Chemical Weapons Attack.
All of which came out to be Rubbish and Lies. 150.000 Dead out of which over 100.000 were Civillians.
Its going to take a while for ISIS to come Even I guess.

Heck I love it when People make empty Claims on History without even knowing the slightest bit about History itself....

 

[Demascus]

Ignorant crap.

Cute little video but some details they forgot for an example an account by a Muslim historian (Muhammad Qasim Hindu Shah, 1560-1620) stated that during the Islamic invasion and occupation of India some 400 Million slaughtered between 1000 and 1525 A.D.
Yeah they forgot that little detail in the video because it doesn't fit the narrative. If it makes you feel better... Christianity has killed lots of people too through out history. However I don't turn on the news and see thousand of Christians parading the decapitated heads of "un-believers" in the year 2016, nope, Islam extremist hold that honor. So yes, Islam like Christianity, has had a history of violence, it's fact just accept that and no need to get you panties in a wad over it.

And anti-Islamic bigotry is more acceptable to you?

Never said it was, I was insinuating that it's worse to be a racist than a bigot since a person has no control over his race but does on his beliefs.

Ehm Mate.
No Offense.
But in terms of Violence, Wars and Terror. Christinaity is Leading by Miles as the most Violent Religion in History.
Heck I love it when People make empty Claims on History without even knowing the slightest bit about History itself....

Funny I was thinking that same thing. I myself am not a christian and I won't argue that Christians didn't do horrible things through out history. However do some research into the vast Islamic expansion from 1000-1600 and specifically look at what they did to the populations they conquered. They are right on par with Christianity for body count if not more.

 

[Lianachan]

Never said it was, I was insinuating that it's worse to be a racist than a bigot since a person has no control over his race but does on his beliefs.

 

[AJW]

Possible indications of what motivated the shooter:

"Munich gunman had book about Columbine and Virginia Tech killers" https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/23/munich-gunman-book-columbine-virginia-tech-killers
"Munich gunman 'had link to Anders Breivik', Norway killer" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36874497

It seems that he was an individual with psychiatric problems and an obsession with mass killings.

 

[Patrick_68000]

Islam is in dire need of reform and modernization.

Indeed, of great theologians of this religion calls for a renovation

 

[Adept]

Mate. With all Offense Intended as I am fed up with it now!
Your Racist and Anti Islamic comments are not Welcome.

You sound like an Ultra Right Wing Demagogue putting Fault for anything and everything towards the Islam and its nauseating to be Honest.
I would ask that you calm yourself and stop with this. The last thing we need is Racism Hate Speeches Blaming some Ethnic Group for the Worlds Problems!

Greetz Sun

I bet he doesn't know much about Iran either. It's an interesting country. Half of the population is 35 or younger, very much fed up with state mandated religion and quite secular in their thinking. I hope Iran opens up more and we can buildd stronger trade and cultural ties.

 

[Patrick_68000]

The Munich police just confirmed that there is no evidence for an islamistic motivation of the amok run yesterday.

The perpetrator was a 18 year old german-iranian pupil, suffering from depression and obsessed with amok runs and mass shootings. It's still unclear where he got the gun, but the police suspects it is an illegal gun due to the milled out serial number.

As of now ten people, including the perpetrator, died.

As some investigators have suggested, there is little chance that the killer has done allegiance to daesh. Indeed, the Iran is Chiite and daech is Sunni

 

[Adept]

Indeed, of great theologians of this religion calls for a renovation

Gülen seems to be one such cleric. It's no wonder Erdogan hates him.

 

[Patrick_68000]

I bet he doesn't know much about Iran either. It's an interesting country. Half of the population is 35 or younger, very much fed up with state mandated religion and quite secular in their thinking.

No discoveries here

Gülen seems to be one such cleric. It's no wonder Erdogan hates him.

Yes a renovation would be welcome for a religion enough rigorist

 

[Minonian]

The truth is the only difference between this lunatics, and religious terrorist, the next.

Fanatic's found a good excuse to make their killing spree looks like legitimate. But otherwise? They are too psychopaths.

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I bet he doesn't know much about Iran either. It's an interesting country. Half of the population is 35 or younger, very much fed up with state mandated religion and quite secular in their thinking.

A stable dictatorship is the waiting room of A democracy, and an unstable democracy, is the waiting room of a dictatorship.

 

[Necronaught]

Mate. With all Offense Intended as I am fed up with it now!
Your Racist and Anti Islamic comments are not Welcome.

You sound like an Ultra Right Wing Demagogue putting Fault for anything and everything towards the Islam and its nauseating to be Honest.
I would ask that you calm yourself and stop with this. The last thing we need is Racism Hate Speeches Blaming some Ethnic Group for the Worlds Problems!


Greetz Sun

Speaking ill of a religion is not racist. Speculating that an attack might have been carried out by a certain demographic, that has been carrying out similar attacks very recently, is again not racist. It's trendy in heavy metal to attack the church but dare say anything against mosques or synagogues and you are an instant right wing, goose stepping Hitler fan.

I wonder who here has marched against the EDL (not right wingers, just scared kids) and fought the BNP (real nasty types) on the streets. I wonder who has been stomped on by skinheads and had their friends pull them out of a ruck all bloody. Who has stopped a dig out at an illegal hunt and has a spade across the face or whipped by some green or red coat and ridden into by horses?

Sickens me when after many years of activism there are still people who throw the race card because someone is not footing around when it comes to facts.

I assumed it was an Islamic attack. Does that make me a racist? If you don't think the problem is way, way worse than a few skinheads writing graffiti upon the day of the Brexit, then you are in for some serious trouble somewhere down the line.

 

[Sunleader]

Speaking ill of a religion is not racist. Speculating that an attack might have been carried out by a certain demographic, that has been carrying out similar attacks very recently, is again not racist. It's trendy in heavy metal to attack the church but dare say anything against mosques or synagogues and you are an instant right wing, goose stepping Hitler fan.

I wonder who here has marched against the EDL (not right wingers, just scared kids) and fought the BNP (real nasty types) on the streets. I wonder who has been stomped on by skinheads and had their friends pull them out of a ruck all bloody. Who has stopped a dig out at an illegal hunt and has a spade across the face or whipped by some green or red coat and ridden into by horses?

Sickens me when after many years of activism there are still people who throw the race card because someone is not footing around when it comes to facts.

I assumed it was an Islamic attack. Does that make me a racist? If you don't think the problem is way, way worse than a few skinheads writing graffiti upon the day of the Brexit, then you are in for some serious trouble somewhere down the line.

No Mate.
Its not Racism to Speak Ill of an Religion.

Racism is when you assume People are Criminal Psychopaths, Murders and Rapists because they belong to an Religion.

If you did not Notice. He is not Speaking Ill of the Islam. He is Criminalizing it.
In his Words every Muslime is an Terrorist. And an Terrorist must for sure be an Islamist.


Assuming an Ethnic Group to be Criminal or Terrorists Based on their Religion or Heritage. Or Assuming that an Terrorist or Criminal due to his Actions must be Part of an Certain Ethnic Group.
Thats what you call Racism.
And thats exactly what he has been doing for 3 Pages.


In his Posts if your Muslime. Your automaticly an Terrorist in Waiting.
And when your an Terrorist your automaticly an Muslime.

Sorry. But no matter how I turn it. It is an Stays Racism.
And its Nauseating.