UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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Alright...

In the light of MB's last comments I've convinced myself of the following. I'd appreciate if you scrutinize the logic and comment on it.

1- The UA and UP are from the same manufacturer.

2- The UA using Morse and drawing the ship is separate from its pointing to Merope. It uses Morse because it's from someone who knows who and what we are and wants to make sure we understand it is communicating with us. Pointing to Merope is because it wants us to know something important is in Merope.
You coud add this too: the UA's were sent out to find inteligent life scann it give a message to its creators and then the UP's were to give them a message
 
Hahaha!

If I had any control over this I'd be no fun. This the point I'd shut down my computers, burn the hard drives, and move to some dead useless world to everyone with a nice biosphere inside like in Star Trek: Wrath of Khan. "Nope, nothing to find here. Shhh."

Except you'd be highly intoxicated. The experiment was a failure, had they stayed long enough to find out about how Marcus cheated the system to produce a "highly accelerated state..." Like father, like son, I guess.
 
For the last few days I've been thinking that the UP is possibly some kind of metamorphosis of the UA given that no 'free range' UP's have been found yet. It's difficult to try anything without UA proof racks though. If the UA mystery is partly done with, then just why have UA proof racks been introduced into the game now?

I'm also interested to know if anyone has managed to take a UA to one of those singing Condor wrecks and if it elicited any response.
 
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Please don't answer this if it gives too much away but could you clarify;

Is it different to the UA only in that this points to a planet and the other is to a Star? or is the entire reason the Merope system has attracted 2 kinds of satellite wholly different?


asteroid belt, deep space location, one of the planets
 
You coud add this too: the UA's were sent out to find inteligent life scann it give a message to its creators and then the UP's were to give them a message

This is only possible if the UA is from 'The Missing' human colonies who hope the receiving party is smart enough to figure out Morse from the signal or if it's from an alien civilization who studied us enough to know Morse and deliberately speaking to us.
 
The message has a specific purpose, and a very different one to the UA.

Michael
Thanks for the nudge :)

The UA looked to be observing by capturing images of ships. With what appears to be three distinct images then the UP looks like it is instructional.

I'm going to have a go at moving the sampling window around to see if that removes more of the background noise. I think the digital nature of the message delivery is now quite well understood for the image :)

Cheers.
 
I may not be cool enough to get the storyline correctly, but 1 question: Let´s say I am 100% Allied with the Federation and I have the max possible military rank - should I not be eglible to get some information about their operations a) at Merope, b) with the Unknown Probes?

I am not sure whether FD has implemented something like this yet, but it would be pretty cool. Otherwise I feel again "alone in the dark"...

You're not a member of the government or any regular military organisation; you're a member of an auxiliary military: A part-timer who helps out sometimes.

Also: As a high ranking member of *every* faction, nobody is *ever* going to trust you with a secret! Maybe if you were only a member in one of the factions, but who is going to hand top secret information to a known turn-coat, who regularly switched sides?! :)
 
UP's havent been see any where near merope... but UA's form a shell round it. If they did this because of the barnicles there would be shells round the other nebulae with barnicles.. there is not. And its unlikely we missed them given the ease at witch we find them round merope.

The UP message doesnt have enough information in it for it to be a map at least on its own. It has 5 to 10 symbols at moste and they are very simple consisting of a few solid lines a map, especialy in space needs way more info to be usefull... just look at the voyager disk there is loads more info and way more complex symbols even if you take away the bits that describe the language the message is written in.

So i dont think its telling us to go some where... i think its telling us to do something. When i first saw the message diagram i thought i had seen it before some where but i cant think where.. though it reminds me of washing instructions on a t shirt.

The only direction it gives is to merope 5c as though its saying do ''this'',there.
Though what ever it is we are suposed to do i have no idea as again the instruction seem very simple and given the level of detail in the mesage it should be quite simple to work out.. ie it wont take high level precision maths and angles.

Our abaility to interact with the stuff in elite is quite simple also.. shoot, scan, jump, fly and scoop/eject.

Now i know there ar many combinations of thing and many diferent thing to do them to. Witch is what all the fuss is about i supose lol


If its a key... we need a lock to put it in.. and a means of doing so as we cant put a picture hidden in a sound into any thing unless the picture is telling us how to interact with the lock... and we are back to go here and do this.

Now all we need to figure out is what its telling us to do on, in, or around merope some where.

There are number... so we think... and a diferent picture section for each number. Its odd that the numbers are not sequential but in a criss cross pattern. Why would they do that unless the middle pic is needed to look like it does in the layout it in. Like ikea assembly instructions go step one then two then three and a pick for each step. It doesnt make sence to go step 1 then 3 then 4 then 2 unless they are anotating the diagram.

The two bottom lines that stick out are very confusuing and often get left out or ignored buy many theories and ideas put forward on this thread. They must mean some thing.. they are the last thing to do if we are to follow the instructions in order but i have no idea what it could be realy..
One seems like enter orbit, tree seem like scan something or orientate to the double ringed planet? two is tricky but might be go to the equator or land on the planet.. and four.. measure the curviture? Or something.. mabe?
 
@ Cynaqq

I think there might be some weirdness going on related to missing people if my post about E3, G3, D3, B4, D, D2, G, A2 is more than just pure dumb luck coincidence.
 
Alright...

In the light of MB's last comments I've convinced myself of the following. I'd appreciate if you scrutinize the logic and comment on it.

1- The UA and UP are from the same manufacturer.

2- The UA using Morse and drawing the ship is separate from its pointing to Merope. It uses Morse because it's from someone who knows who and what we are and wants to make sure we understand it is communicating with us. Pointing to Merope is because it wants us to know something important is in Merope.

3- The UP is the second step of the message, it points to Merope 5C, somewhere more specific. It no longer needs to use Morse because it knows it has our attention so speaks more directly, in the form of a spectogram. It disables our ship systems because it wants us to understand what it's telling us is a warning so we better listen.

These made me come to the conclusion that something sinister is brewing on or in Merope 5C, or it will arrive there sometime in the near future and someone is trying to warn us of the danger beforehand.

The Feds have figured out about as much and are trying to understand further by sending capital ships there, showing they are taking the warning seriously. They are looking at barnacles because they are the only interesting thing to find there and they want to hit two birds with one stone, further MA research while patrolling the area for a possible threat.

So, my very own guess is the threat isn't there yet, the UA and UP are a two step warning and the spectogram is the key to setup our defenses before the attack.

This leads me to believe the image and the symbols around it is some kind of galactic position based calendar, which if we position right, will let us know the exact time the danger will come depending on the positioning of certain celestial objects. Merope and Merope 5C are the best starting points to try to match things up.

Am I just talking nonsense or do you think this line of thinking has any merit?

Not nonsense bud. In fact I agree with what you say. The UP's did set a perimeter of a set distance around Merope. Perhapse a more advanced and defensive version of the probe can be found closer to Merope or right on the outer fringe of the system like Voyager is.
I feel that the UP's and UA's are not from the same origin of the Barnacles. Wether the Barnacles are the threat is a matter of debate but they could just be a natural form of life. They are found elsewhere. I think if we need to fathom other things about them then we need to also focus on why Nebulae. Is it the composition? As our ever mysterious Mr Brookes said... it IS obvious.
 
I hate myself for posting this. I wouldn't do if the image hadn't been bugging me for ages. It was the particles that float around the barnacles and (I think) the probes that nudged me finally in this direction.

I'm only putting this here because then it's here. I don't think there's necessarily anything in it, and I don't see it leading anywhere useful.

The circle shows a 10x10 grid that is barreled, and divided into quadrants. There is a black line that is not attached to, or curving with the grid, but runs from the edge to the centre of the circle. This, along with the curve and the two additional straight lines have been reminding me of something but I've only now been able to figure out what it is. It reminds me of the view through a microscope. The lensing causing the flat grid to barrel, the black line being an indicator needle common to a lot of microscopes. Even the lines outside feel somehow like they are controls for optics - a zoom, or lens selector, and a focus.

So what if the particles are ships.

What if the probes and artifacts are stations.

What if the barnacles are planetary ports or cities.

Maybe the message is trying to get us to appreciate things at a different scale.

I don't think any of that is true, but it's an itch I can't scratch, so it's only fair that some of you itch too.
 
Has anyone noticed the barnacles have the same visual effect as the UA`s and UP`s i went into d-bug cam and went under the barnacle and looked up it has the same shimmering effect that surrounds the probes
 
UP's havent been see any where near merope... but UA's form a shell round it. If they did this because of the barnicles there would be shells round the other nebulae with barnicles.. there is not. And its unlikely we missed them given the ease at witch we find them round merope.

The UP message doesnt have enough information in it for it to be a map at least on its own. It has 5 to 10 symbols at moste and they are very simple consisting of a few solid lines a map, especialy in space needs way more info to be usefull... just look at the voyager disk there is loads more info and way more complex symbols even if you take away the bits that describe the language the message is written in.

So i dont think its telling us to go some where... i think its telling us to do something. When i first saw the message diagram i thought i had seen it before some where but i cant think where.. though it reminds me of washing instructions on a t shirt.

The only direction it gives is to merope 5c as though its saying do ''this'',there.
Though what ever it is we are suposed to do i have no idea as again the instruction seem very simple and given the level of detail in the mesage it should be quite simple to work out.. ie it wont take high level precision maths and angles.

Our abaility to interact with the stuff in elite is quite simple also.. shoot, scan, jump, fly and scoop/eject.

Now i know there ar many combinations of thing and many diferent thing to do them to. Witch is what all the fuss is about i supose lol


If its a key... we need a lock to put it in.. and a means of doing so as we cant put a picture hidden in a sound into any thing unless the picture is telling us how to interact with the lock... and we are back to go here and do this.

Now all we need to figure out is what its telling us to do on, in, or around merope some where.

There are number... so we think... and a diferent picture section for each number. Its odd that the numbers are not sequential but in a criss cross pattern. Why would they do that unless the middle pic is needed to look like it does in the layout it in. Like ikea assembly instructions go step one then two then three and a pick for each step. It doesnt make sence to go step 1 then 3 then 4 then 2 unless they are anotating the diagram.

The two bottom lines that stick out are very confusuing and often get left out or ignored buy many theories and ideas put forward on this thread. They must mean some thing.. they are the last thing to do if we are to follow the instructions in order but i have no idea what it could be realy..
One seems like enter orbit, tree seem like scan something or orientate to the double ringed planet? two is tricky but might be go to the equator or land on the planet.. and four.. measure the curviture? Or something.. mabe?

Hmm, your post made me think...maybe the numbers are a sort of encryption, or to make sure it's only able to be read by intelligent life. first we have to figure out they're numbers and by then we'll notice they're in the wrong order. So we should try to rearrange the segments into the proper order? If it's from the missing, it could be clockwise, starting at 12.
 
The message has a specific purpose, and a very different one to the UA.

Michael

The UPs were created to deliver a message with a purpose. We have the message, we need to discover the purpose of the message. With the UAs the message indicated that the UAs were scanning us. Purpose discovered!

The newsletter article seemed to indicate that this was a key. We now need to go and find the lock which this key fits.

D&D - You've discovered a gold key inside a coconut shell. Here is a locked door. Use the coconut shell. The coconut shell does not unlock the locked door. Use the coconut shell. The coconut shell does not unlock the locked door. Use the... [wacko] wear the coconut shell. It does not fit you.
 
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