UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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Is no-one exploring the different in amplitude of the first burst that was mentioned upthread? If someone fires the numbers at me about the relative amplitudes, I can do some simple stats and see if that turns anything up.

It would appear not- I guess you mean the Success versus Failure amplitude ?
Since nobody has found "Paul" to be able to test the success condition that hypothesis is fundamentally flawed. No distances were discussed from the UP, nor audio settings- differences that might account for the amplitude difference
 
The 'W' on the right hand side image above the weird downward curve and the two upward curves is nothing but a distorted version of the top right quadrant of the main message image. It's the 'II' of '-II'. The '-' is also there in a distorted form if you look carefully.

It looks like a W because of a drift in the echo, which is overlaid on the sound effects in that region. I believe it to be nothing but a cool way to add ambient effects to the exit of the message. The curves have the same drift so it is consistent. It becomes apparent if you listen to the recording with headphones while looking at the spectogram.

Shouting is reserved for Rizal!
please dont

does this distortion apply at the same time point to the rest of the symbols?
 
sometimes when I get stuck in something I just start from scratch again.

Can we just ignore everything and restart again? Pretend we don't know what an UA is etc..
 
sometimes when I get stuck in something I just start from scratch again.

Can we just ignore everything and restart again? Pretend we don't know what an UA is etc..


Heh, not hard as we don't know what the Unknown Artefact is. We do know (from MBrookes) that it's purpose is the transmission it sends out, and that is all we know about everything we have found so far. Everything else has been conjecture.
 
Just had a crazy thought, super far out in left field though. People have mentioned trying to communicate with the ADS, has anyone tried anything with voice chat though? I highly doubt there is anything in this idea, but thought I would share anyway.
 
Just had a crazy thought, super far out in left field though. People have mentioned trying to communicate with the ADS, has anyone tried anything with voice chat though? I highly doubt there is anything in this idea, but thought I would share anyway.

Currently impossible.
 
I finally got some in game time again, yesterday.:)

A tip.
Google Earth, in 'Moon mode' is very nice for logging possitions and visualizing angles on the surface.
Just remember to change singns on the coordinates.
 
Hi, I don't know if somebody has mentioned earlier but the discovery scanner can play 3 tones.
Perhaps thats a usefull information for the sound-thoeory.
I didn't trigger the scanner till the end.
I pressed the scan button an stopped at the second "N" of the word "Scanner" above the blue charging line and immediately repeated this. The tones in fact change.

Why should the tones change when not for any purpose ?

Nobody answered and if this isn't known till now this is an important fact to know a to play around if u have a UA !
 
Shouting is reserved for Rizal!
please dont

does this distortion apply at the same time point to the rest of the symbols?

It's a subtle echo with a fade out effect so it isn't stable for a length of time, the strength of the effect increases with time in that region. There aren't any other symbols in that exact time.

Also, I don't know how many separate sound files were used to make that exact in game sound so the effect could only be in one of those files and not affect the rest even on the time scale. I don't think it's a post process effect applied at the very end. My guess is that it only applies to the layer that carries the image in the message.
 
Hi, I don't know if somebody has mentioned earlier but the discovery scanner can play 3 tones.
Perhaps thats a usefull information for the sound-thoeory.
I didn't trigger the scanner till the end.
I pressed the scan button an stopped at the second "N" of the word "Scanner" above the blue charging line and immediately repeated this. The tones in fact change.

Why should the tones change when not for any purpose ?

Nobody answered and if this isn't known till now this is an important fact to know a to play around if u have a UA !

That's well known. The notes are no more than 4 and always randomly chosen when you start the scanner.
We've already tried to use them with the UA eons ago. I've already tried them with the UP without any new result.

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I was playing with the symbols in the image today trying to fit them as puzzle parts over each other. I did not get very far and considering my findings, I think it's . But I am still sharing this, since someone might pick it up and develop an idea that is better than my try.....

http://i.imgur.com/QuingDg.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/RHmJKbG.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/QJWjQuC.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KVmNbeq.jpg

That's a nice story :)
I hope it has an happy ending ;)
 
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I was playing with the symbols in the image today trying to fit them as puzzle parts over each other. I did not get very far and considering my findings, I think it's . But I am still sharing this, since someone might pick it up and develop an idea that is better than my try.....

http://i.imgur.com/QuingDg.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/RHmJKbG.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/QJWjQuC.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KVmNbeq.jpg
Looks like a UP

Maybe the whole thing is just a true and false table of logic and rhetoric?
- not being sarcastic.

You only have 3 symbols to work with and two seem obvious:

T = -
F = |

or

0 = -
1 = |

But maybe the whole answer is just to put the thing to a true false table and run it backwards against factorial combinations? It could at least possibly eliminate the chaff.
If it's binary it could be a corner correlation like a OpenGL texture :)
 
While I find myself enjoying this mystery I also find myself cursing Frontier. From a pure game play perspective ie not using external tools, there should be some way to gain more information or insight to this dilemma.

For example:

A pilot notices a military convoy with an Unknown Probe in one of the ships cargo holds.

The Military Transport ( A python ) has some semi unique comms chatter
Transport to Command. Affirmative on the pick up of Cargo NHE-17, on route to test site.
Transport to Command. NHE Cargo secure. On route to designated co-ordinates for orbital testing.

Pilot chooses to follow the Python to see where it goes, it jumps system and player follows it there. [New system - Wolf 1453]
Some more comms chatter (not unique).
It then heads towards a station. [Station name - Akers Gateway (not sure of spelling)]
It then appears to drop out at the station (player suffered a crash to main menu at that point).

Whether or not it was going to do orbital testing there or not is up for the usual internet jury to decide, but I personally doubt it.

My main point being that if the NPC is saying the things it does, it should actually do what it's saying. Otherwise players will essentially ignore NPC chatter for being meaningless.

Since Unknown Probes are currently rarer than rocking horse poop, no testing can be done with regards to said planet / station.


Long story short: Frontier, if these things are just tidbits of info, that's great but rephrase the chatter to make more in game sense. ie if the ship is not going to the designated co-ordinates, don't tell us they are.
 
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While I find myself enjoying this mystery I also find myself cursing Frontier. From a pure game play perspective ie not using external tools, there should be some way to gain more information or insight to this dilemma.

For example:

A pilot notices a military convoy with an Unknown Probe in one of the ships cargo holds.

The Military Transport ( A python ) has some semi unique comms chatter



Pilot chooses to follow the Python to see where it goes, it jumps system and player follows it there. [New system - Wolf 1453]
Some more comms chatter (not unique).
It then heads towards a station. [Station name - Akers Gateway (not sure of spelling)]
It then appears to drop out at the station (player suffered a crash to main menu at that point).

Whether or not it was going to do orbital testing there or not is up for the usual internet jury to decide, but I personally doubt it.

My main point being that if the NPC is saying the things it does, it should actually do what it's saying. Otherwise players will essentially ignore NPC chatter for being meaningless.

Since Unknown Probes are currently rarer than rocking horse poop, no testing can be done with regards to said planet / station.


Long story short: Frontier, if these things are just tidbits of info, that's great but rephrase the chatter to make more in game sense. ie if the ship is not going to the designated co-ordinates, don't tell us they are.

Tbh if it had been meaningful content they might have noticed your tailing them and attacked ;)
 
While I find myself enjoying this mystery I also find myself cursing Frontier. From a pure game play perspective ie not using external tools, there should be some way to gain more information or insight to this dilemma.

For example:

A pilot notices a military convoy with an Unknown Probe in one of the ships cargo holds.

The Military Transport ( A python ) has some semi unique comms chatter



Pilot chooses to follow the Python to see where it goes, it jumps system and player follows it there. [New system - Wolf 1453]
Some more comms chatter (not unique).
It then heads towards a station. [Station name - Akers Gateway (not sure of spelling)]
It then appears to drop out at the station (player suffered a crash to main menu at that point).

Whether or not it was going to do orbital testing there or not is up for the usual internet jury to decide, but I personally doubt it.

My main point being that if the NPC is saying the things it does, it should actually do what it's saying. Otherwise players will essentially ignore NPC chatter for being meaningless.

Since Unknown Probes are currently rarer than rocking horse poop, no testing can be done with regards to said planet / station.


Long story short: Frontier, if these things are just tidbits of info, that's great but rephrase the chatter to make more in game sense. ie if the ship is not going to the designated co-ordinates, don't tell us they are.

Somebody quoted developer saying (it was on #7 thread) that you only need pencil and paper and game itself to solve this. So..
 
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i repeat what i said the last thread (the 7th) :

the key must be something to ''unlock'' the audio: all we get so far are some words, with the ''key'' we could listen all the whole message. i am pretty sure about this.
Maps have a key that tells you the details about the map its scale, orientation, meaning of features
 
If it is indeed a key to unlock some audio, my guess would be a serie of action to perform with the probe in a certain order
to have it send the full message.

But I'm not sold on it. Yet. I'm still looking at it as a map of some sort.
 
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