Just a note, the logarithmic system used to render spectrograms is base-independent. Any log base is a linear scaling of any other log base, and since we're dealing with audio frequencies there's no implicit "correct" vertical to horizontal scale. It makes sense to pick the scale where the image appears as a circle.
UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn
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Hmmm now remember I filed a bug report about the CG text yesterday, and then remember that someone found a barnacle on HIP 17225. Well today I got a response and not only was the CG text accurate, but as it was also alluded to yesterday we need to rethink the parameters for finding barnacles. This is definitely the most populated planet so far!
I've spoken with a developer about this. There have been 10+ Barnicle sites in that system since there were sites in the game
Now they have capital ships above them so that should make them easier to find.
Hope that helps.
What is this update you speak of?
I'm just going to go with a base 10 on the subdivisions of the circle (I think that's what where talking about here) because it's what most humans use; and because the forerunners to the UP - the UA - used another himan convention: morse.
Seems reasonable to me.
Oi! Don't go and use reason.. what's that ever got anyone?
Mind to share your knowledge?
Thinking is the key.
Hmmm. I'm 100% certain this has been thought of before, but could "a key" refer to a musical key?
Well that settles that then.
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Like when you key the mic?
I'm not familiar with "base-independent logarithmic systems" but that sounds cool. Maybe that's why the image still doesn't look perfectly round even when it's been logarithmified.
This goes contrary to my theory of UA's being the "seeds" for Barnacles. Indeed, UA's have been found on the surface of planets, after completing Tip Off missions. Some clarification on that would be nice.
Thanks for your clues though. Much appreciated.
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This goes contrary to my theory of UA's being the "seeds" for Barnacles. Indeed, UA's have been found on the surface of planets, after completing Tip Off missions. Some clarification on that would be nice.
Thanks for your clues though. Much appreciated.
What if the UP is the key to decrypting the UA sound?
It just means that Log_x
= Log_a / Log_a(x), where 'a' can be anything. Specifically in this case, it means that no matter what base you chose for your logarithm in the spectrogram, it will only change the vertical stretching of the image, it won't distort it in any other way. And the vertical stretching is already arbitrary, so, the base is irrelevant.I thought the UA audio is decrypted, but the UP audio isn't?
The UP audio chirps do appear to be groups of 3 binary tones, which would fit with the diagram?
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Ok, thanks for the info.
IMO, the UA is the key to its own decryption. Apparently its purpose is different to that of the UP. However, if you're correct, I still fail to see how the howls can be a "key", or how the music key(s) of the howls can help us decipher the message embedded in the sound.
After all, before that mystery, I never thought you could hide an image in the sound...
New user here, but long time lurker. I just had some thoughts and was wondering if people could help me out a bit. First, Micheal Brookes (MB) has said a few things about the probes(UP) and artefacts(UA): 1) "They (the UA's) are pointing where they are supposed to." -Feb 8th, 2016. 2) "The message(from the UP) has a specific purpose, and a very different one to the UA." -July 26, 2016 3) "THe pointing(in regards to UP AND UA pointing behavior) is deliberate, but also for a different reason to the UA" July 26, 2016 4) "The transmission from the UA is its purpose." July 26, 2016. 5) This is very confusing on which part of the question MB was answering but the question was "So that means the information in the UP about the planet in the sound is NOT merope it is from a nearby planet probably in the UA range. Its just the wording the U P is the PROBE which is something you'd think would be the thing looking since its a probe.. the artifact who knows what it is. Maybe it is the more advanced of the 2?" and MB's response was "thats a testable theory"July 26, 2016. I think he is talking about the UP and UA and not about it not being on Merope 5C. 6) Lastly, MB said about the "current problem" - "The UAs and UPs are space based, other aspects can involve the surface."
With the information straight from MB, and hours after hours of trying to piece this together, my theory is this:
The UA's form the shell because it is possibly a sentry "shield". Its logical that the UA's scan our ships to determine information to send to a wreckage. I believe its a wreckage on Merope 5C, due the all the pointing (in which is deliberate and its purpose).
The UP's are distress signals sent out to reach help, which is why it has the hidden message on it. It is trying to find help, whether from its original homeworld, or anyone who can help it. (which is why the purpose of the "message" MB said was different from the UA).
The diagram from the UP is a way to find the location of the wreckage, not necessarily a grid map, but steps to locate it. The top of the message contains longer dashes than the bottom, which leads me to believe that the top and bottom are different (one might be morse code(the UA's used morse to scan) and the other binary(in which the audio message from the UP) What if the bottom section is morse, and the top is binary(still doesnt make sense to me when I do that Top/Left-Right=2/3 and Bottom/Left-Right=D/U--- Maybe 2D(2 down), 3U (3 Up)???)
As for the diagram/Map, I think that the circle is the UA shell, the little circle in the middle is Merope 5C, the BOT right quadrant's line is saying that the UA's point to the wreckage(Merope 5C) but have not figured out a logical reason for the other 3 symbols. So this is where I am stuck on my theory, which is why I wanted to branch this out to all other Commanders...
With the information straight from MB, and hours after hours of trying to piece this together, my theory is this:
The UA's form the shell because it is possibly a sentry "shield". Its logical that the UA's scan our ships to determine information to send to a wreckage. I believe its a wreckage on Merope 5C, due the all the pointing (in which is deliberate and its purpose).
The UP's are distress signals sent out to reach help, which is why it has the hidden message on it. It is trying to find help, whether from its original homeworld, or anyone who can help it. (which is why the purpose of the "message" MB said was different from the UA).
The diagram from the UP is a way to find the location of the wreckage, not necessarily a grid map, but steps to locate it. The top of the message contains longer dashes than the bottom, which leads me to believe that the top and bottom are different (one might be morse code(the UA's used morse to scan) and the other binary(in which the audio message from the UP) What if the bottom section is morse, and the top is binary(still doesnt make sense to me when I do that Top/Left-Right=2/3 and Bottom/Left-Right=D/U--- Maybe 2D(2 down), 3U (3 Up)???)
As for the diagram/Map, I think that the circle is the UA shell, the little circle in the middle is Merope 5C, the BOT right quadrant's line is saying that the UA's point to the wreckage(Merope 5C) but have not figured out a logical reason for the other 3 symbols. So this is where I am stuck on my theory, which is why I wanted to branch this out to all other Commanders...
There is a way to encrypt morse I posted links and some decoders.
It does make sense that some form of encryption would be done by any computer based system or intelligence but I thought these were primitive lifeforms. Also why would some stuff be in the clear in a human made code?
can we solve this by tomorrow pls
(its hard to play elite with wifi and laptop on holiday)
(its hard to play elite with wifi and laptop on holiday)
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