UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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Jmanis

Jmanis
Hold up a minute. Galnet. This: https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/579a1ec59657ba905359897c

Those familiar with HIP 17225 A 1 will be all too aware that the planet is home to a number of barnacle sites.
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Barnacle Spreadsheet has no barnacles listed in HIP 17225, let alone HIP 17225 A 1. I know that doesn't mean nobody has found them there before, but at least there's no easily public info about that.

Did we just get thrown a bone?
 

DubbleJoe Seven

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'Hold up a minute. Galnet. This: https://community.elitedangerous.com...57ba905359897c

Those familiar with HIP 17225 A 1 will be all too aware that the planet is home to a number of barnacle sites.


Barnacle Spreadsheet has no barnacles listed in HIP 17225, let alone HIP 17225 A 1. I know that doesn't mean nobody has found them there before, but at least there's no easily public info about that.

Did we just get thrown a bone?'

i went there for a few hours. drove around a few craters and canyons. didnt find anything but rocks. such is my luck as i believe it was said some pages ago that indeed even clusters had been found? not sure tho i could just as well be spreading conjecture and have no interest in digging the post up, if it exists.

Things have also been said regarding more than one possible 'owner/creator/controller' of all this unknown crap. mayhap we are following more than one story arc.
The dude, MB, did say something about UA/UP not pointing for the same reason... hmmm
 
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ilo

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TiberiuS

TiberiuS
simulacrae said:
Me too.. I even see it on my mousepad... Oh thats just the steelseries logo... Hmmmmm maybe...
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Haha, yeah, almost... I have the same mousepad and Steelseries headphones.

Good morning. Did I miss any important clues?

ilo said:
someone has already found one (if no more), the bug report answer from FD states there are 10 at least
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10?! Wow.
How many must there be on Merope 5C then?
 
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[VR] Frank_G

[VR] Frank_G
Entomogant said:
Listen up folks! Frank_G ( https://forums.frontier.co.uk/member.php/59394-Frank_G ) and I have a new theory! We would appreciate it if you take the time and read all this stuff.

The UAs are scanning ships. We think this is because they are searching for something specific. And this could be a ship suitable to transport the UPs. Therefore the UPs were found when such a possibility where given, although we dont know where they are exactly from. Maybe the UA are also a hint where a suitable ship should fly, that is why they are pointing to Merope system.
After the UAs found such ships and tell them they have to go to Merope the UPs were send out. But they still need transport to the actual position they need to be. As we understand they dont have propulsion and maybe they are dropped like a FSD just near a sun. Consequently the UPs tell us where they have to to go. And this information is coded into the image.

Please have a look at the attached image.

http://i.imgur.com/wfeSdDT.jpg

We believe the image has to be divided into more parts and has to be simplified. Let me walk you through.

The bottom left shows an UA that searchs for ships which has to transport the UP to a specific location. This location is defined by the two lines sticking from the planet.
The two markings below the planet (left and right) are not a morse code and definitely different to the similar markins on the top. We are sure about this because the spacing is different and effectively a different 'font' which wouldnt make any sense if it should be understood as one. Instead they look like a dimensioning line in a technical drawing. Which is a weird thing because they dont fit to anything in the image. This is because we believe it is dimensioning an orbit! In the image we counted the pixel for the planet and calculated the kilometer per px. For Merope with about 1480km this means 1px is 3.58km. The dimensioning line represents therefore a distance of 2112km. With this the distance from the surface can be calculated, giving a distance of about 317 km from surface to orbit. A geostationary orbit on earth has a distance of 35,786km. The kicker is, that Merope 5C has 1/100 of the earth mass. Meaning a geostationary orbit is only 1/100 of the distance. 357.86km in this case. That fits suspiciously well...

For the other marking in the image: The top left represents a top-down image of the planet an the orbit as an abstract drawing. Meaning the image shows the planet from the north- or southpole.
The bottom left defines the area in which the UP wants to be placed.
Top right shows that it wants to scan or be scanned.
The line in the bottom right helps defining the orientation of the planet and should, as a wild guess, point to the sun, Merope 5.

With this all information should be together to determine the position:
The distance from the surface, 317km.
Planet Merope 5C with the orientation line to the sun.
A geostationay orbit is above the equator, so with the planet in a top-down view the position of the two lines can be relatively easy calculated.
And with all that the position where to honk a UP (or just put it there) is perfectly defined and is not overdimensioned. And it althoug fits with the lore, as the Feds wants the UPs for orbital testing. :-O

Maybe someone with good mathematical skillz can give us the area in question and someone with an UP try this?

Fly safe and let us know what you think. o7
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The 45 degree marker is most likely not pointing at the sun, but towards Merope 5, i bet. My mistake.
 
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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Nagual said:
No, I understand just fine. Look at his video again. It been posted tons of times. This is what I hear:



He then goes on to explain about Tip Off missions. Just as he was talking about crashed ships he get's interrupted by one of his guests, and that particular line of thought got washed away.

By his actions, not only his words, he seems to be really meaning his questions almost frustrated. Since the only crashed ships reported so far with any proof are human ships. Human Ship sightings with evidence vs Alien Ship sightings with evidence. The weight of evidence that no one else in the entire game has said they have found them.

However you may as well ask me to prove unicorns don't exist while your at it.
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I watched that part of his livestream when it was first mentioned on the last subthreadnaught early last week, this is nothing new here. It was interesting, but irrelevant as this thread requires proof- "pix/video or it didn't happen"; if anyone has problems with that then go and bother other forum threads and stop wasting our time.

Lots of crashed ships have been found that appear to be human, there is at least one other thread dedicated to them, started I believe by Cmdr Panzertard. They are all human types of ships. However the last post I saw on this (can't remember if it was in this threadnaught or the dedicated thread) someone (Panzertard?) had found Morse code noises from a DBE wreck, sounded like someone was stranded in the wreckage. It was decoded & said (note- I'm quoting from memory so not guaranteed exact) something like "I AA AM AI, I AM ALIVE". That sounds to me like some of these crashed ships are captured (or copied) human ships operated by an AI life-form, which has been hinted at several times in Galnet & livestreams.

So I think we have found those aliens (but not interacted with them yet), but I don't think they are relevant to the UA/UP story, the Space Locusts have yet to emerge, though I could be wrong, (I posted my Simples theory a page or so back but it seems to have been missed; I would add that locusts live much of their life underground)


and unicorns do exist, they live in the forest at Hogwarts-I've seen the film. :O
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Colonel Kenney said:
I like you LZ you are ok in my book. I have to disagree with you though. I mean thousands of people have contributed here sure, but there also are 1.5 million people who bought it. Imagine if there were real content and real puzzles and real cool stuff in this. You'd be getting 100x more action in these forums. Just look at the names of the games with more players ahead of ED in the rankings and you'll see all it takes to be successful when it comes to that sort of thing.

I do agree though that yes I am a little frustrated. I do like puzzles and challenges very much. This is really the only puzzle within our grasp. We've been DYING for any sort of exploration content in this game. Alien races, all sorts of cool things that could have been done. Don't get me wrong the story is fantastic its just too removed from the general population that could have made this game even more mainstream. Don't mention the BBC either. I'm sure this whole story among many others could have been prodded along much faster than it has been and the galaxy could have been seeded with thousand of really creative and unique things for us to find. There isn't. (Yet) and that is my frustration.
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But with that viewpoint as soon as you find a solution you'll be disappointed with it. The enjoyment of puzzles is in the solving process, not in the solution. So enjoy! With luck we may have 5 to 10 more years of E:D, I don't want it all to be over by Christmas.
 

Colonel Kenney

Colonel Kenney
Another simpler way of looking at it. Throwing out my 20th theory.. :)

I think the people who are lining up the planets on the sensor suite and the compass are on the right track. The fact the target is slightly offset sort of almost proves this is the target compass.

The target (moon?) will be at the:

  • 2nd star or black hole in the system
  • 3rd planet will be ringed
  • The target will be 3rd of 5 moons. (bottom notation seems slightly different) Possibly between 2 asteroid belts.


Line up the targets in your compass.

The system will be near the Pleiades inside the bubble for sure.

My first though is that I think the target we are looking for could be Maia B3B

However if you were to target Merope 5 from above it could also match up including the angles of the other moons. But personally I think the positions would have to be "timed" just right at the right time of the day. I don't see any clues leading to time.
 
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Jmanis

Jmanis
Jorki Rasalas said:
Lots of crashed ships have been found that appear to be human, there is at least one other thread dedicated to them, started I believe by Cmdr Panzertard. They are all human types of ships. However the last post I saw on this (can't remember if it was in this threadnaught or the dedicated thread) someone (Panzertard?) had found Morse code noises from a DBE wreck, sounded like someone was stranded in the wreckage. It was decoded & said (note- I'm quoting from memory so not guaranteed exact) something like "I AA AM AI, I AM ALIVE". That sounds to me like some of these crashed ships are captured (or copied) human ships operated by an AI life-form, which has been hinted at several times in Galnet & livestreams.
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So, all these messages we find in tip-off wrecks; what if the messages we are recovering aren't by humans, and they are actually describing encounters with OURSELVES!
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Jmanis said:
Hold up a minute. Galnet. This: https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/579a1ec59657ba905359897c



Barnacle Spreadsheet has no barnacles listed in HIP 17225, let alone HIP 17225 A 1. I know that doesn't mean nobody has found them there before, but at least there's no easily public info about that.

Did we just get thrown a bone?
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Somebody reported finding one (two? I'm getting threadnaughtitis- the days are becoming lost in a sea of irrelevant posts & I'm losing all track of reality; wait, it's my birthday today! Ok, its just old age then...) in the last day or two. I posted to ask if anyone had editing rights to keep the front page up to date in Riz's absence. Got no response.
 

Gypsy12

Gypsy12
Frank_G said:
http://i.imgur.com/wfeSdDT.jpg

The 45 degree marker is most likely not pointing at the sun, but towards Merope 5, i bet. My mistake.
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This is interesting. I flew directly up to 357km above M5C directly opposite Merope 5 from the surface.. The planets horizon lies at around 30-35 degrees when at this position. Coincidence? Try it yourselves.

Perhaps its not us that are meant to find whatever is there but the UP? By inserting it into a Geosync Orbit? After all, this one has no thrusters as opposed to the UA (If they are thrusters at all)

Anyone with a UP want to try that? Cant hurt...
 
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