UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

[CMDR Davanix]

Thankyou sir, I find ancient mythology fascinating and am always looking to learn more.

One question, on your travels did you have a UA with you at all?

My plan is to take UA around to each of the main stars and in through the nebulae in the region, just in case they are required for something out there we haven't figured out yet. I doubt I will search for barnacles, it is mainly for me a data collection mission and I dont have the patience for barnacle hunting. I have a few missions I need to finish up first (trying to get a permit for sol) but as soon as I'm done with that I will head out following the roughly the route you described, pretty much straight through the middle of barnards loop following a straight line from merope.

Seriosly dude check out newgrange kerb stones that show pleides and vv orionis also newgrange is literly the picture and my theory is those two lines point to two kerb stones as they line up both of which kerb stones show pleides and orion and have been called the Sirius mystery

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And forgot to mention about VV in the image also

Also newgrange is aparantly older than the pyramids themselfs and is still unkown where or who built these type of tombs/astronomy

 

[Toxophilist.]

Loving the mythology. Achernar has an part in that too. As does the Constellation Eridanus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eridanus_(constellation)

 

[CMDR Davanix]

If anybodys interested in my theory read this http://www.mythicalireland.com/astronomy/ancientastronomers.php also on this page have a look at this lineThe neighbouring kerbstone, number 51, may contain representations of the constellation Cassiopeia with its familiar W shape

Forgot to mention some shapes and features in newgrange bear resembalance to the barnacle logo unfotunatly il have to wait to take my own picture as the web hasnt much mostly just the sun dial and kerb stones etc

 

[BluWolve]

Seriosly dude check out newgrange kerb stones that show pleides and vv orionis also newgrange is literly the picture and my theory is those two lines point to two kerb stones as they line up both of which kerb stones show pleides and orion and have been called the Sirius mystery

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And forgot to mention about VV in the image also

Also newgrange is aparantly older than the pyramids themselfs and is still unkown where or who built these type of tombs/astronomy

I have some free time at the moment so definitely will read up on it now.

Loving the mythology. Achernar has an part in that too. As does the Constellation Eridanus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eridanus_(constellation)

Had a quick browse but will go back to read more, one thing that stood out was this sentence -

"32 Eridani is a binary star 290 light-years from Earth. The primary is a yellow-hued star of magnitude 4.8 and the secondary is a blue-green star of magnitude 6.1."

What the.. I never even knew stars could be green at all, shows what I know haha. Is this a very unique star or are blue-green stars common? Sorry if it is a daft question but I'm still learning. Or is the green part just a mixture of the blue and yellow stars? I suppose that still makes green (haha yes I know my colors).

 

[Colonel Kenney]

Seriosly dude check out newgrange kerb stones that show pleides and vv orionis also newgrange is literly the picture and my theory is those two lines point to two kerb stones as they line up both of which kerb stones show pleides and orion and have been called the Sirius mystery

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And forgot to mention about VV in the image also

Also newgrange is aparantly older than the pyramids themselfs and is still unkown where or who built these type of tombs/astronomy

Got me thinking maybe they are solstice marks. Pretty sure they should match the axial tilt. But that would have to be about 30 degrees. From those degrees 210-240 you could calculate a latitude. The longitude could be the 138 degree number.

Edit naw there are no real planets with a 30 degree tilt within any close distance of merope.

 

[CMDR Davanix]

I personally think the barny logo to be a henge us humans used them as a mark of who taught us them but they use them to mark their creations. One example is the milfield henge nearly exact to the barny logo apart from the inner bit missing http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2009/10/25/the-maelmin-heritage-trail/

The henges spread accross england and ireland where aslo engraved in some of the kerb stones in newgrange and many more of these tombs

 

[BluWolve]

If anybodys interested in my theory read this http://www.mythicalireland.com/astronomy/ancientastronomers.php also on this page have a look at this lineThe neighbouring kerbstone, number 51, may contain representations of the constellation Cassiopeia with its familiar W shape

Forgot to mention some shapes and features in newgrange bear resembalance to the barnacle logo unfotunatly il have to wait to take my own picture as the web hasnt much mostly just the sun dial and kerb stones etc

Only just a little way through reading... Just wow mate it is mind blowing stuff. I cant even begin to.. I need to read more but had to post and recommend everyone have a read when they get a chance.

 

[CMDR Davanix]

Also we where told winter is coming......The winter solstace of newgrange when the light enters the passage perfectly is coming up

People gather at Newgrange for winter solstice dawn on each of the mornings from December 18th to December 23rd inclusive. Sunrise is at 8.58am.

 

[crushdepth]

Deepest apologies if this has already been attempted or thought of, but I was hunting for materials today in USS' and coming across a lot of encoded and degraded signal sources and scanning the data beacon things.

Quite a few of them seem to make reference to an unknown vessel approaching, but one of the data beacons seemed to refer to a 'key' of some description. I put it to the back of my mind so there's no screenshot, but I now distinctly remember the newsletter highlighting 'a key' in green a week or two back.

Perhaps there is some connection here?

Probably not. Some of the messages say they do include a key, but it's not in your inventofy and the messages are gone when you log out.

A couple of things mentioned in the messages may turn out to be relevant later on - i) there is a problem with FSD technology and ii) firmware can carry malware, possibly allowing an external agency to take over your ship.

 

[CMDR Davanix]

Look familiar this is newgrange and the winter solstace...

 

[Atebits]

The Newgrande Calendars are of the same mathematical language as Knowth.

http://iseultandbloom.org/images/ancient-images/neil-thomas.png

http://www.mythicalireland.com/astronomy/astroart/k15thomas.gif

http://www.knowth.com/books_more.htm

From :
Irish Symbols of 3500 BC by N. L. Thomas. The inscriptions on the megalithic stones at Newgrange, Knowth, Fourknocks and Loughcrew are investigated by the engineer Dr. Neil L. Thomas. He presents the stones as calendars for a 16 month year with 22 or 23 days per month and 8 annual solar and seasonal events.
- https://books.google.com/books?id=vunKOQPJm-AC

There are 24 symbols in that mathematical system. It's a geometric mathematics | ^ and ^ with the triangle filled in all = 1. Upside down U = 2. Squiggle with 2 humps up, 3 down = 3, 3 humps up 2 down = 4, _ = 5, one swirl open top = 6, one swirl open down = 7, single circle = 8, circle with a circle inside = 9, a circle with 2 circles inside = 10, circle with half 4/5 arch of a circle around it = 10 as well, diamond = 11, diamond with dot inside = 12, diamond with 3 diamonds inside = 13, and diamond with 4 triangles (2 white, 2 black) = 14. Other symbols are Firmament (arch), summer sun, winter sun, equinox spring and autumn, full moon, new moon, midday, moon, and sky, dawn and dusk, transition and guiding line, direction of alignment, and 8 or 16 directions.

I can't find a good image source for this but they're all in the N. L. Thomas book.



This stuff is insanely weird though. I'd really doubt the math (if there is any) would spawn out of this. It would mean we should start looking at things like the Gankyil too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gankyil

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Not discounting the similarities!

- but this is scary rabbit hole

 

[CMDR Davanix]

The Newgrande Calendars are of the same mathematical language as Knowth.

http://iseultandbloom.org/images/ancient-images/neil-thomas.png

http://www.mythicalireland.com/astronomy/astroart/k15thomas.gif

http://www.knowth.com/books_more.htm

From :
Irish Symbols of 3500 BC by N. L. Thomas. The inscriptions on the megalithic stones at Newgrange, Knowth, Fourknocks and Loughcrew are investigated by the engineer Dr. Neil L. Thomas. He presents the stones as calendars for a 16 month year with 22 or 23 days per month and 8 annual solar and seasonal events.
- https://books.google.com/books?id=vunKOQPJm-AC

There are 24 symbols in that mathematical system. It's a geometric mathematics | ^ and ^ with the triangle filled in all = 1. Upside down U = 2. Squiggle with 2 humps up, 3 down = 3, 3 humps up 2 down = 4, _ = 5, one swirl open top = 6, one swirl open down = 7, single circle = 8, circle with a circle inside = 9, a circle with 2 circles inside = 10, circle with half 4/5 arch of a circle around it = 10 as well, diamond = 11, diamond with dot inside = 12, diamond with 3 diamonds inside = 13, and diamond with 4 triangles (2 white, 2 black) = 14. Other symbols are Firmament (arch), summer sun, winter sun, equinox spring and autumn, full moon, new moon, midday, moon, and sky, dawn and dusk, transition and guiding line, direction of alignment, and 8 or 16 directions.

I can't find a good image source for this but they're all in the N. L. Thomas book.



This stuff is insanely weird though. I'd really doubt the math (if there is any) would spawn out of this. It would mean we should start looking at things like the Gankyil too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gankyil

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Not discounting the similarities!

- but this is scary rabbit hole

This might be the one

http://www.mythicalireland.com/astronomy/astroart/brennan.gif

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Only problem is we havnt figured it out as humans either so xD

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If my theory is correct the date of the winter solstace has some significance im not great with math but what would be the time of this during the 3300 xD

http://www.archaeocosmology.org/eng/newgrang/battersby.gif

Not sure if the dates of ones so far help but heres a site showing them http://www.newgrange.com/solstice-lottery.htm

 

[CMDR Davanix]

I think finding the henge that the barny logo looks like and overlaying our up image to it with its retrospect stone placemtn might even show something though i cant find an image of it :-( though i have seen it definitly

 

[Atebits]

This might be the one

http://www.mythicalireland.com/astronomy/astroart/brennan.gif

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Only problem is we havnt figured it out as humans either so xD

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If my theory is correct the date of the winter solstace has some significance im not great with math but what would be the time of this during the 3300 xD

http://www.archaeocosmology.org/eng/newgrang/battersby.gif

Not sure if the dates of ones so far help but heres a site showing them http://www.newgrange.com/solstice-lottery.htm

http://www.mythicalireland.com/astronomy/astroart/brennan.gif <------- Those are most of them. Thomas translated most of those.
Somewhere in a terrifying stack of papers I don't want to dig through right now I have his stuff.

You could probably work it what time it is using this?
http://www.stellarium.org/

You can tell it where you are on Earth and what year. I believe it starts messing up or just won't go further after 2000 years or so. I wasn't able to go back for enough for an for a research paper I needed last year. You might be able to take its base data though and run it past a local observatory? A lot of them are getting so they have that stuff on hand rather than having to point the telescope at it. But if you're going to ask them something make sure it is really clear what you want.

I'm not sure how you'd line that up with the Pleiades or account for stellar drift.

 

[CMDR Davanix]

http://www.mythicalireland.com/astronomy/astroart/brennan.gif <------- Those are most of them. Thomas translated most of those.
Somewhere in a terrifying stack of papers I don't want to dig through right now I have his stuff.

You could probably work it what time it is using this?
http://www.stellarium.org/

You can tell it where you are on Earth and what year. I believe it starts messing up or just won't go further after 2000 years or so. I wasn't able to go back for enough for an for a research paper I needed last year. You might be able to take its base data though and run it past a local observatory? A lot of them are getting so they have that stuff on hand rather than having to point the telescope at it. But if you're going to ask them something make sure it is really clear what you want.

I'm not sure how you'd line that up with the Pleiades or account for stellar drift.

Well i live like 15 minutes from newgrange i mite take a trip down and ask them if they would know xD by the way i think i found our closest to barny logo yet unfortunatly i cannot find overlooking images exept for a guys paper artist thing http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=11033

 

[CFF]

Does it bother anyone else that the lower line protruding from the bottom left hand quadrant of the image is not quite pointing directly at the center of the sphere? The higher line is almost a perfect 90 degrees to the tangent that it creates with the sphere, but the bottom one is about 10 degrees off as far as I can tell.

Why wouldn't you encode them both with perfect 90 degrees to the tangents?

This is the problem with trying to read angles from this image, it's hard to tell exactly how accurate it's meant to be.

 

[CMDR Davanix]

I am going to go about my theory and try use VV Orionis as the center and try match the other two lines to lower left stars in the same line and attempt to use barards loops as a reference for now until i get some more information. I just wish FD would hint wether this theory is wrong or on the right track i dont want a yes your right answer more just a nudge on it as its just to much adding up for me right now lol

 

[Vitamin Arrr]

It seems to me that nobody transcribed the HI LOW PURRS of the UP transmission correctly.

You are right they did not. Because one high purr occurs DURING the eigth cry-honk. Because the rhythm of the purrs is not in sync with the rhythm of the cry-honks, which, incidentally, have two types: a backwards, and a forwards.

The correct purr sequence (before it repeats) is (in base 10): 22, 19, 6, 9, 19, 6, 26, 28, 20, 25. There are 10 total numbers. I'm guessing it knows we're human and so it is trying to buy a PowerBall ticket.

But seriously, that is the sequence of the numbers if you group the purrs into groups of five. There are exactly 50 before it repeats.

But I think you may be making a mistake if you don't factor in the chirps that also come in hi-lo pairs between 740-1260hz.

 

[Atebits]

Well i live like 15 minutes from newgrange i mite take a trip down and ask them if they would know xD by the way i think i found our closest to barny logo yet unfortunatly i cannot find overlooking images exept for a guys paper artist thing http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=11033

Envious of your locale!

http://www.mythicalireland.com/astronomy/astroart/
- this seems the complete list from the book.
- bottom is the same as you linked?

I don't know. It was a convincing argument as a book. I'm scared if it is where we're heading for solving this.

There's no point of origin in the Celtic swirls. The whole thing is kind of one image that has its own context. Whereas we tend to write left to right, top to bottom, with spaces, and punctuation. Then again, I struggle with Japanese for this same reason so probably a personal limitation. Mandarin never bothers me, but Mandarin mnemonic. There's a point of reference to begin from. For instance, a box with three lines above it is a speech radical. Whereas in Japanese there is as likely to be a alphabetical character next to something as there is to be a mnemonic character. Japan without Huragana wouldn't be Japan nor have had such an awesome history, but it is a struggle for beginners.
Taking this all back to the Barnacles and Calendars ...I wondered a couple days ago if the Barnacles aren't some sort of hinge, but I haven't visited enough of them to have any idea. The Barnard's Loop symbol on the top always bugged me. It seemed obvious that's where it was heading... and it seemed obvious that we would make that connection. I didn't like this. It was too much jumping the gun. I've really been sitting on my hands with the Barnacles since there really didn't seem to be anything to analyze that hadn't been analyzed. That or we had jumped the gun and so it was like whispering into a storm. Now with both the UA and UP heading us back to Merope I'm somewhat more relaxed to talk, but also skeptical why Merope?

I'm still in a state of information purge though. I have no real new ideas and most of the ones told to me are tin foil hat stuff that self terminates when we solve this or because when this is solved they turn out true.

Anyway, my ignorance is magnifying faster than my ability to make any use from it. Time to do something mindless until the purge is complete.

 

[CMDR Davanix]

Envious of your locale!

http://www.mythicalireland.com/astronomy/astroart/
- this seems the complete list from the book.
- bottom is the same as you linked?

I don't know. It was a convincing argument as a book. I'm scared if it is where we're heading for solving this.

There's no point of origin in the Celtic swirls. The whole thing is kind of one image that has its own context. Whereas we tend to write left to right, top to bottom, with spaces, and punctuation. Then again, I struggle with Japanese for this same reason so probably a personal limitation. Mandarin never bothers me, but Mandarin mnemonic. There's a point of reference to begin from. For instance, a box with three lines above it is a speech radical. Whereas in Japanese there is as likely to be a alphabetical character next to something as there is to be a mnemonic character. Japan without Huragana wouldn't be Japan nor have had such an awesome history, but it is a struggle for beginners.
Taking this all back to the Barnacles and Calendars ...I wondered a couple days ago if the Barnacles aren't some sort of hinge, but I haven't visited enough of them to have any idea. The Barnard's Loop symbol on the top always bugged me. It seemed obvious that's where it was heading... and it seemed obvious that we would make that connection. I didn't like this. It was too much jumping the gun. I've really been sitting on my hands with the Barnacles since there really didn't seem to be anything to analyze that hadn't been analyzed. That or we had jumped the gun and so it was like whispering into a storm. Now with both the UA and UP heading us back to Merope I'm somewhat more relaxed to talk, but also skeptical why Merope?

I'm still in a state of information purge though. I have no real new ideas and most of the ones told to me are tin foil hat stuff that self terminates when we solve this or because when this is solved they turn out true.

Anyway, my ignorance is magnifying faster than my ability to make any use from it. Time to do something mindless until the purge is complete.

See the fact newgrange and all the other henges pre date the pyramids along with the devs being from england with stonehenge being newgranges english equiv it just seems righ along with all the other relevent information about the sirius mystery (Which everyone knows in Elite they are also a mysterios crowd of nutters) then we have the sun dial and newgranges winter solstace lining up with the up image the two lines pointing at kerb stones that show pleides and VV Orionis and a few more like sirius etc. along with FD saying winter is coming....Winter solstace is coming and the barnys logos representing what looks like overtop henge drawing that nobody knows even on earth why they where formed.

Like im not saying im right this could be a huge coincidence but it all makes logical sence and is a bit to narrow to push aside ut its 3:30am and my brain is literly shot so im going to bed lol

Night everyone this is the 3rd time showing this theory i wonder howlong before it gets shot down or doesnt exist again xD