UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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Ok, I think we are talking about the Y Dwarf? Technically there is no place on the UP image that indicates a 'chirp' is a star. The test is:

- atmosphere (non-landable planets)
- Ring Worlds
- Barnacle Worlds
- Binary Pairs

Of course one of these (or all, or the entire idea) might be wrong.

Another thing we may be overlooking is relevancy. The spectral image( ringed worlds, atmospheric worlds, barnacle worlds, and binary pairs) may be the only relevant information. It would certainly be the most valuable when looking for or trying to convey available system resources.
 
So, bear with me:
Artifacts are sent out in the universe, most dont make it but some do, and they find the planet with the right conditions and grow into barnacles.
Barnacles create new Artifacts and shoot them into space (hence the current shell)
They scan every ship on their way (not good i tell you ).
Probes are than sent out to catalogue these systems by responding to a ship scan with the sonogram (and perhaps the latest theory by Dreadp1r4te : )

So i wonder if what MB ment by for a "for a different purpouse" means that one they are both pointing in the same but opposite direction, as in one is leaving and one is arriving. Which might be saying that the UAs were created by the barnacles and were sent out to scan us all. Im guessing some have arrived at their destination and the UPs have been sent back ..


Speculation i know but they are already out of tinfoil in my area .. and i would really love to understand the overarching story, or at least start to : )

o7
 
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Okay have another idea that is system specific. This idea is based on the very odd system surrounding Merope 2. I based it off of the binary numbers 2,3,4,1. The quadrants in the image and the letter number correlation. (A=1, B=2, C=3, D=4)

This could reveal a date or time that an event might take place based on alignment of objects within the system. The only thing I am stuck on is finding the starting orientation for the image. I also wanted to find a reason why the symbol next to the Binary number 3 exists and what it can be used for.

First image shows my idea of what the 2 crescents might mean.

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I had to assume that the quadrants would fall left to right top to bottom as I am pretty sure FD did not get real aliens to design the puzzle.

I then Numbered and color coded the orbits and placed them in the same quadrant that matches the number symbols. #2 in quad 1, #3 in quad 2, #4 in quad 3, and #1 in quad 4
I then applied the same color combination to each planet so it would correlate with the correct orbit.

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Funny enough 2A could line up at the intersection with the angle in quad 1 and 2D could fall between the range of degrees within quadrant 3. It may mean something it may not.

What I am wondering is if the system is in this configuration based on the in game date,could it reveal a date that something is supposed to take place. Will the scans only return a results if the system is in the correct configuration and or at a specific time?

The only other idea I had might be that based on this system layout it might also reveal a place in the system where you are supposed scan the object. It might reveal more secrets. I am unsure really as this is my first puzzle in ED.

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I have no idea how much we are expected to know about Physics and SETI transmission interpretations. I am approaching under the assumption that we are not required to pay some audio forensics firm for a profession audio analysis. I am also approaching it from the stance that most people would not have access to very specialized tools and applications.

I have to assume that the puzzle should be achievable by anyone who is playing the game. If it is only meant savants in the field then I feel it would be alienating a large portion of the community. With that in mind I created that bit of science above. At the very least I hope it might give someone else an idea. Hope this was at least entertaining for you.
 
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Guys, those with a complex mind... please check over my findings here:- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...nonn/page346?p=4308819&viewfull=1#post4308819


I may be on to something.... but need someone to go over it/understand it and see if they can see if it could work or on the right track

My findings maybe flawed or not? but I do feel that the planetary view in game is a complex coordinate system for Planets or moons, and as you will see in the images I have lined up the Alien Transmission image with the planetary view of Merope 5C fairly accurately, and I dont think it is a coincidence

I would love to believe that those rings hold further information or that the planetary map is intended to be used for more than whatever the heck it's supposed to be used for now, but I just don't see the evidence yet. I love your line of thinking though.
 
Another thing we may be overlooking is relevancy. The spectral image( ringed worlds, atmospheric worlds, barnacle worlds, and binary pairs) may be the only relevant information. It would certainly be the most valuable when looking for or trying to convey available system resources.

If this is the way to interpret the image, the question then is why is the UP storing the 'key/legend' to the signal it's sending. Is it sending that signal out for us to use so we can find Barnacle systems? If it didn't want us to know how to interpret the sounds, why include a key?
 
So, bear with me:
Artifacts are sent out in the universe, most dont make it but some do, and they find the planet with the right conditions and grow into barnacles.
Barnacles create new Artifacts and shoot them into space (hence the current shell)
They scan every ship on their way (not good i tell you ).
Probes are than sent out to catalogue these systems by responding to a ship scan with the sonogram (and perhaps the latest theory by Dreadp1r4te : )

So i wonder if what MB ment by for a "for a different purpouse" means that one they are both pointing in the same but opposite direction, as in one is leaving and one is arriving. Which might be saying that the UAs were created by the barnacles and were sent out to scan us all. Im guessing some have arrived at their destination and the UPs have been sent back ..


Speculation i know but they are already out of tinfoil in my area .. and i would really love to understand the overarching story, or at least start to : )

o7

12 pods on artifact with glowing green symbols, 6 pods on barnacles with glowing green symbols. Possibly two pods per barnacle "spike." Both shoot out little fireflies. Both sing alien songs. The UA damages your cargo and stations because it is eating metal, trying to grow and turn into a barnacle so it can convert metals into meta alloys. Ive had this theory for a while.
 
Hello folks; I think I may have solved (a big part of) this UP image mystery: It's a system scanning probe.

While listening to Vent Aileron's recordings of the UP, I noted the high-low chirps, and the patterns therein. From the UP I noted the following purrs, and compared them to knowledge of Merope (where the recording was taken) to draw the following theories.

1 instance of 110. There is 1 main star in Merope.
7 instances of 010. 7 atmospheric worlds in Merope (top left quadrant of UP spectro)
6 instances of 011. The icon indicates ringed worlds; there are 6 in Merope.
3 instances of 001 The line drawn in bottom right indicates binary pairings, a line connecting them. There's 3 in Merope.
1 instance of 101. There is 1 asteroid belt in Merope.
2 instances of 100. There are 2 barnacle worlds in Merope, indicated by the bottom left "spikes" on the sphere.

It is my belief the probe scans systems. Of course, it was all in the name all along.

Considering the star the the asteroid belt aren't on the UP 'key' - could the 101 (|-|) and the 110 (||-) indicate the start and end of the 'chirp' sequence?
 
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Guys, those with a complex mind... please check over my findings here:- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...nonn/page346?p=4308819&viewfull=1#post4308819


I may be on to something.... but need someone to go over it/understand it and see if they can see if it could work or on the right track

My findings maybe flawed or not? but I do feel that the planetary view in game is a complex coordinate system for Planets or moons, and as you will see in the images I have lined up the Alien Transmission image with the planetary view of Merope 5C fairly accurately, and I dont think it is a coincidence

This was intriguing, but I'm not certain what the 'little / long lines' are that I think the red arrows are pointing to? I can't see anything the red arrows are pointing at? Can you clarify what they are pointing at / indicating as I didnt quite get it. (I also never spend time in that view in game, so I might need anything obvious to others explaining to me :) )
 
Guys, those with a complex mind... please check over my findings here:- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...nonn/page346?p=4308819&viewfull=1#post4308819


I may be on to something.... but need someone to go over it/understand it and see if they can see if it could work or on the right track

My findings maybe flawed or not? but I do feel that the planetary view in game is a complex coordinate system for Planets or moons, and as you will see in the images I have lined up the Alien Transmission image with the planetary view of Merope 5C fairly accurately, and I dont think it is a coincidence

Those rings on the planetary map have always been a bit suspicious to me. This is a good theory but Im not one to work out your map either. Im hoping someone can come along and further expand on it
 
If this is the way to interpret the image, the question then is why is the UP storing the 'key/legend' to the signal it's sending. Is it sending that signal out for us to use so we can find Barnacle systems? If it didn't want us to know how to interpret the sounds, why include a key?

The same reason computers contain BIOS chips (basic input output services)and CMOS batteries (complimentary metal oxide semiconductor). In order to create or process data, it must first have a key/codebooks/parameter set to work with. If it doesnt know what its looking at or how to interpet it, it cant create information from it.

Maybe like a relearn procedure. HOLY CRAP I THINK I FIGURED IT OUT MORE. When you scan the UP, it creates a feedback issue the results in the EMP because the UP is also scannig and broadcasting. The EMP affects the probe too, so it has to reboot and relearn its programming!!!
 
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One was. Links to media in his sig.

Wondering now if "NGC 2546 Sector CR-U D3-29" has :
1 Main Start
3 Ringed Worlds
3 World with Atomsphere
2 Binary worlds

;)

Do you have your transcription of this written down?

I'm listening to both, but on a noisy bus ... I do definitely agree they are different, which makes me really feel like Dreadp1r4te is onto something here. I'll try for a solid personal transcription of both Merope and NGC 2546 Sector CR-U D3-29 and we can compare notes.
 
I'm starting to think the only purpose of the UP is misdirection. The feds made the thing to keep the greatest minds in the galaxy off their backs.

Think about it.

The feds were "protecting" the barnacles in merope.
People drove them off again and again, causing billions of credits in damage to capital ships etc.
All of a sudden, we find a UP, that takes us to look at Merope 5C.
The feds left, off to "protect" whichever other barnacle sites they can.
Everyone is still staring at an image scratching their heads whilst the feds are running around elsewhere slurping up meta alloys, laughing that the new "shiny" is doing its job and keeping the biggest thorns in their side busy.

The feds are establishing bases, the imps are calling for meta alloys, and no one cares because of the new toy to play with. It probably is just an elaborate rubiks cube that has no purpose but to keep everyone busy.

Either that or it is telling a story of how merope used to be an atmospheric world before a meteor hit, destroying the atmosphere but launching debris out into space. This debris contained a form of life that can survive in space in extreme conditions (like a Tardigrade or some sort of microscopic bacteria). This debris was caught up in the gravity of the star, and as the star system travels around the galaxy, some of the debris was caught up by other nearby star systems, launching the asteroids into other planets, which in turn seeded the planets with life (barnacles).

Perhaps soon we will be seeing the majority of this debris coming back to merope 5C, or perhaps the aliens are trying to piece together what happened to their home world after they left to travel the stars?

I'm just thinking out loud, so as usual I wont take offense if i am (as usual) ignored or ridiculed. I do really hope that it is some elaborate sound code thing that proves all the effort put in by some of you has been worthwhile, but I honestly believe some of you are looking far too hard into the whole thing. Just my opinion, and I know its not a very popular one, but at least I will not push it on others and make them feel dumb for having a different one.

One thing I will say is some people forget is that it is quite silly to sit smugly and claim to know anything about this mystery when all they have are opinions like everybody else.

Yeah yeah time for me to go out of here for a couple of days, Roger Roger o7
 
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Do you have your transcription of this written down?

I'm listening to both, but on a noisy bus ... I do definitely agree they are different, which makes me really feel like Dreadp1r4te is onto something here. I'll try for a solid personal transcription of both Merope and NGC 2546 Sector CR-U D3-29 and we can compare notes.

Dreadp1r4te could well go down in history here. Hope he/she is ready for the fame.
 
In our excitement, nobody picked up a map of Merope 

  • Merope has two stars, not one.
  • Merope has three atmospheric worlds, not seven.

- Merope does have two stars. I addressed that earlier, as I misheard one of the symbols. It still fits, as it is both a star and ringed.

- Merope has 6 atmospheric worlds, including the gas giants and 1 Y-class star/gas giant. Stars do have an atmosphere, although that would also mean the main star (Merope) would need to be listed as well; it might be simply that the Probe is indicating 7 unlandeable orbiting bodies. Thanks for pointing these out.

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Those rings on the planetary map have always been a bit suspicious to me. This is a good theory but Im not one to work out your map either. Im hoping someone can come along and further expand on it

They always looked like placeholders to me; as if we were supposed to have detailed planetary imagery in the middle and the arcs were for dramatic effect.
 
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The same reason computers contain BIOS chips (basic input output services)and CMOS batteries (complimentary metal oxide semiconductor). In order to create or process data, it must first have a key/codebooks/parameter set to work with. If it doesnt know what its looking at or how to interpet it, it cant create information from it.

Maybe like a relearn procedure. HOLY CRAP I THINK I FIGURED IT OUT MORE. When you scan the UP, it creates a feedback issue the results in the EMP because the UP is also scannig and broadcasting. The EMP affects the probe too, so it has to reboot and relearn its programming!!!

Which is why it only sends out the legend while being honked at with the disco scanner. It obviously does all of its communication through sound, so likely does its scanning and programming this way.
 
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