UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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I'd say this is plausible, since that was its response to the ADS. I also thought maybe the thing was just replaying its stored exploration data.

If you could use this to also explain the patterns of the chirps, then I might be convinced.

One question however is, why does it give a different sequence when it's on the planet surface? If that would correspond to the elements there, that would certainly be interesting...

I think it always gives a different sequence, but the content of that sequence is always the same. Basically each time the message repeats, there will always be two instances of 100, for the 2 barnacle planets, although they might be in a different order.
 
One question however is, why does it give a different sequence when it's on the planet surface? If that would correspond to the elements there, that would certainly be interesting...

Since the UPs whale while they're nearby planets, or on the surface, it makes it trickier to determine whether or not the sequence is the same.

We know that the three partial recordings we have of the probe dropped at NGC 2546 Sector CR-U d3-29 are different, but since they're partial, we don't know whether they contain the same fundamental data. e.g. ordering might not matter. If ordering doesn't matter, the recorded on-planet sequence could contain the same data; just hard to tell under the wailing.
 
Yes, I have been working on this exact assumption for the better part of a week now. I really like your detailed depictions of these rings. The two outfacing lines' rings intersect and you can get the to match the image. If you superimpose the left third of the image on the middle portion, the <= points to the upper left quad of the sphere. I figure between lat 50° and 60°, long, well still working on it.


Nice to know someone else has been working this idea too... its quite complicated and harder since I suck at math :p

I hope this helps you in some way for your own theory
 
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So if there's no way to know the start and end of the signal over that six minute time frame, how did you come up with the counts you originally posted? Sorry, I must be missing something easy here.

I didn't know the start and end. We know the probes total transmission is 6 minutes long, and I know when the probe was dropped from the video, so ergo I know that in the 6 minutes I've heard the full message play, even if it started in the middle, as it would start again once it ended.

Where it starts and ends isn't important; this isn't a linear message. It's unordered, but the total number of each purr type never changes, so we can always get the same message regardless of when it starts/ends.
 
What if the chittering identifies if a system has barnacles? Plausible assumption?

Meaning the UP's main purpose is to identify systems with barnacles?
 
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I spit out my coffee at this one. Lol.

NMS is already in my library and I'm awaiting exploring science fantasy worlds and giggling like a little school girl while I'm at it. NMS heralds a return to space dreams. When Elite keeps us grounded in a very realistic manner.


Back on topic,
It seems the recording, as of Dreadp1r4te's findings we have 3 tiers of information.

1) Passive Chiping / beeping.
2) Active (ADS Triggered) response.
3) Actual transmission post trigger (Sound and Conversion of audio to visual)


All 3 should play key parts, we just need to understand how it fits.

I'll get my coat...
 
I didn't know the start and end. We know the probes total transmission is 6 minutes long, and I know when the probe was dropped from the video, so ergo I know that in the 6 minutes I've heard the full message play, even if it started in the middle, as it would start again once it ended.

Where it starts and ends isn't important; this isn't a linear message. It's unordered, but the total number of each purr type never changes, so we can always get the same message regardless of when it starts/ends.

I see, so it's scrambled to some extent each time it's played. Makes sense, a repeating linear message would have been recognized much too easily I guess. Nice twist FD (assuming this is all correct).
 
I think it always gives a different sequence, but the content of that sequence is always the same. Basically each time the message repeats, there will always be two instances of 100, for the 2 barnacle planets, although they might be in a different order.

So, here's what I hear when I use the recording from this forum post:

|-| |-- ||- |-- ||- -|- -|- ||- |-- |-| |-- |-- |-- ||- -|- -|| --| |-| --| -|| --| -|-

The interesting thing is that this probe is tubaing much slower, so I had to actually use 12m of recording to transcribe the above, rather than 6m.

And it clearly doesn't match the data from the probe in space.
 
Since the UPs whale while they're nearby planets, or on the surface, it makes it trickier to determine whether or not the sequence is the same.

We know that the three partial recordings we have of the probe dropped at NGC 2546 Sector CR-U d3-29 are different, but since they're partial, we don't know whether they contain the same fundamental data. e.g. ordering might not matter. If ordering doesn't matter, the recorded on-planet sequence could contain the same data; just hard to tell under the wailing.

It's not the same. I have very good hearing and advanced audio analysis software. I can tell when there is a honk under a wail. Trust me, it's not the same.

Also, this hypothesis does not explain the chirps, which are a major component of the audio that everyone seems to be happy to simply ignore.

What I'm afraid of is that this particular hypothesis seems attractive because we're all ready for this puzzle to be solved already so we can move on with our lives. But it does not explain the circle and its particular format of lines very well. It also seems to depend on the message being static in a given system when all the data seems to indicate that the message is not static in a given system.

However, it's nice that it's a testable hypothesis. I'll be as happy as anyone for this to be the real thing. I just doubt that it is.

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So, here's what I hear when I use the recording from this forum post:

|-| |-- ||- |-- ||- -|- -|- ||- |-- |-| |-- |-- |-- ||- -|- -|| --| |-| --| -|| --| -|-

The interesting thing is that this probe is tubaing much slower, so I had to actually use 12m of recording to transcribe the above, rather than 6m.

And it clearly doesn't match the data from the probe in space.

Well, I see a lot more than two instances of 100. Unless we're saying that - = 1? Is that what we're saying?

Also:

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So, here's what I hear when I use the recording from this forum post:

|-| |-- ||- |-- ||- -|- -|- ||- |-- |-| |-- |-- |-- ||- -|- -|| --| |-| --| -|| --| -|-

The interesting thing is that this probe is tubaing much slower, so I had to actually use 12m of recording to transcribe the above, rather than 6m.

And it clearly doesn't match the data from the probe in space.

As of the most recent patch, the audio length was shortened to 6 minutes. As such, any audio recorded before that will be in accurate as we have no idea how long it should have been.
 
Also, this hypothesis does not explain the chirps, which are a major component of the audio that everyone seems to be happy to simply ignore.

I'm starting to lose track of what's a honk, whale, chirp, purr, etc.

For the record, the piece that I've been using, and since we get the same data out, what Dreadp1r4te must be using are the purring sounds that vary between a low set of purrs, and a high set of purrs. When you speed the audio up to 8x, they sound like tuba blasts and become the most prominent part of the audio.

However, it's nice that it's a testable hypothesis. I'll be as happy as anyone for this to be the real thing. I just doubt that it is.

I agree, the sole piece of "6 minute audio" we have in deep space happens to fit some facts for Merope.

We have partial audio from other sources, and audio on the surface of Merope 5C which we can't make fit each other, or the deep space Merope track.

At this point we need more data, both another 6 minute deep space recording from Merope, and a similar recording from anoyrther system. That can give us enough to reject or strengthen this theory.
 
Dreadp1r4te's theory is the best one I have seen up till now, but I am personally not very convinced yet. That is not to say we shouldn't continue this line of thinking. The UP transmitting information of the whole system makes sense in a lore kind of way and it reacting to a discovery scanner.

Also, the UP wailing does not indicate a planet with barnacles. In one of my tests the UP wailed when in proximity of a planet that you could not land on.

As for the status of my UP. Support has not responded yet to my ticket. The Canonn should have two UPs somewhere. From my sources one may become possible for use today and the other might be seen on the Educating Ed's livestream today.
 
quick hypothetical before I self destruct, run home, and test this myself..

an eagle, a viper, and an asp are in the same instance. The Asp is carrying the UA, and drops its. During the UA scan, the Viper is the closest pilot to the UA. The eagle is watching it from third person mode. Which of the 3 ships does the UA emit morse for?
 
quick hypothetical before I self destruct, run home, and test this myself..

an eagle, a viper, and an asp are in the same instance. The Asp is carrying the UA, and drops its. During the UA scan, the Viper is the closest pilot to the UA. The eagle is watching it from third person mode. Which of the 3 ships does the UA emit morse for?

when you are scanned, you get your ship. When you get close enough to the UA it scans you so, there you go. Each ship will get its morse code.
 
when you are scanned, you get your ship. When you get close enough to the UA it scans you so, there you go. Each ship will get its morse code.

I know, but which ship would be scanned? The closest one? the one that dropped it? or would the one recording it get his own ship no matter what? (as in, does every CMDR hear different morse based on which ship THEY are in?)
 
quick hypothetical before I self destruct, run home, and test this myself..

an eagle, a viper, and an asp are in the same instance. The Asp is carrying the UA, and drops its. During the UA scan, the Viper is the closest pilot to the UA. The eagle is watching it from third person mode. Which of the 3 ships does the UA emit morse for?

I would assume the Asp, but I suppose that could be wrong. Definitely would have to test.
 
Tin foil hat and dinner vest on...

OK, If anyone will still listen to anything i have to say

I remain convinced we have to filter the section between around 150 Hz to 900 hz, and that the bottom left panel has to resolve into a small square, vertical line and small square .|.
If you look up close at that panel, the vertical demarcation lines come every 50 Hz and themselves are about 50 Hz wide. If we were to cut out small sections of the spectrograph, so that the fenestrated line becomes solid, could we filter out noise and be left with the message?

Heres what i mean about the lines, could this resolve our test sequence into a square a line and a square?

http://imgur.com/a/fqtQG
 
The tubaing sounds like a "horn" after listening to the 1.2gb file.

Some of the notes are lost mid honking, not sure if this was intended. And if the horning is an indication to a new set of repeated data.
 
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