So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)

Just so it known. Drew has stated that he does not know where Raxxla is and as far as he knows it has nothing to do with the Rift mystery.

Yeah Raxxla is the Darkwheel faction mystery its only ralted to the thargoids due to a portal to them but its linked to all aliens and us as it apparantly has a portal to all. Raxxla is completely for another time id say
 
Drew confirmed that whatever Frontier put out there it won't be found in a USS.

Then we can use the old Sherlock Holmes method - deduction.

1. Drew confirmed that Horizons are not necessary -> It is not on the planet surface.
2. Drew confirmed that it is not in the USS -> It must be something in space and not in USS.
3. Drew confirmed that this "something" is in the game since Beta.
4. Based on overall architecture of ED (instances etc.), the only things visible and existing in space (during supercruise) are either planets/moons/stars or ships (players or NPCs).

So, we are looking for ship or celestial body (not necessary visible on Advanced scanner).

For sake of simplicity, let's suppose that this is not a player (Drew himself or someone from FD).

Further, I think that we can eliminate the possibility of NPC ship. NPCs and their spawning is generally buggy for almost two years, so I suppose that if there was/is some NPC, it would be noticed long ago by someone.

So, the thing we are trying to find is a celestial body. The question is, why no one noticed this body in the past.

When we think about it a bit, maybe the answer is elementary my dear Watson.

Because we are lazy today. We almost forgot that at the beginning of ED, during the Alpha and Beta, there was no Advanced scanner !!! For an average explorer today (including me), if it is not on the Advanced scanner, it does not exists :)

Maybe, we need to do the search in the old fashion way, like the first explorers in ED Universe during those Alpha and Beta days. Use the combination of short range scanner and "parallax looking" to seek celestial body which cannot be imagined with ADS.

Either this or maybe I had two more glass of Medoc that necessary this evening. :)
 
Hi guys, can I add a fresh ( I hope ) look on this matter? Of course feel free to hate'n'correct me if it already was made by someone.
Drew told stick to core of the problem. For me, it is getting to the other side of the Rift, to find something. How to find it? Go in straight line, simple as that, to the arm edge. You've created mathematical equations to find other end, but then EAFOTS came and the nebulae. Is the line still going between them? Guessing not exactly.
Rushing to catalog all EAFOTS ? Good luck. Maybe it was just simple clue where to look, then the name of the cobra added the rest. Now we can align the line properly. Sol - Nebulae - two points to make perfect line. Right through the area that we have "...to plot a way across. There are no stars for dozens of light years.". Drew said, we need to keep going. He mentioned that engineers will help. Now, arm edge, not the persei but the new arm perfectly ends where the line is going. See attached file. Bookmarks every 1000ly. There is a system with neutron star which I will examine in next 10 minutes, then I'm going as far as I can. And it wasn't the 16kly as you wrote in RR description, but over 22 kly. There are some interesting star patterns there.
I'm kinda hoping for this scenario :
-- Well , nevermind what I was hoping to find, I found those worlds they were talking about, probably filled with Thargoid graveyards. I wonder, what we'll find there.
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would of been nice if he wasn't so enthusiastic that it made me stop what i was doing and come out here.

Im actually heading home atm have so much data im literly going to be alite i came from the bubble to jaq station then from there in a zig zag out to eafots. I have a ton of first discoverys even some black holes and O classes to hand in before they get found :p
 
Just because I like being positive.

You don't need horizons for a mystery to be on a planet's surface. It just needs to be visible from orbit.

So, still could be on a planet.

I don't think it will be but yea...
 
Hi guys, can I add a fresh ( I hope ) look on this matter? Of course feel free to hate'n'correct me if it already was made by someone.
Drew told stick to core of the problem. For me, it is getting to the other side of the Rift, to find something. How to find it? Go in straight line, simple as that, to the arm edge. You've created mathematical equations to find other end, but then EAFOTS came and the nebulae. Is the line still going between them? Guessing not exactly.
Rushing to catalog all EAFOTS ? Good luck. Maybe it was just simple clue where to look, then the name of the cobra added the rest. Now we can align the line properly. Sol - Nebulae - two points to make perfect line. Right through the area that we have "...to plot a way across. There are no stars for dozens of light years.". Drew said, we need to keep going. He mentioned that engineers will help. Now, arm edge, not the persei but the new arm perfectly ends where the line is going. See attached file. Bookmarks every 1000ly. There is a system with neutron star which I will examine in next 10 minutes, then I'm going as far as I can. And it wasn't the 16kly as you wrote in RR description, but over 22 kly. There are some interesting star patterns there.
I'm kinda hoping for this scenario :
1. I assume, that the rift is a rift in space, like a massive wormhole, that transports everything that will fly into it ( just imagine your fear of loosing all the exploration data after anything goes wrong ;) Because they're constantly whispering about looking to the sky, and watching our six, and one other clue that I forgot i think the rift is generating disturbance in the gravitational field. So we don't need exact coords, we just need fly behind it and watch our six, that is : look at our beautiful Milky Way as it will distort because of the wormhole end. Visually shoudnt be hard to find the right system then. Other side of the wormhole can lead to eg. those mysterious PSR cluster or HIP 13044 alike systems. They, attention, "haven't been mapped, so take your time". We cannot find the systems of interest on the map. Maybe it is the looking on the tapestry from the wrong side, huh?
Or maybe, at the end, some new unindentified systems will pop up in the nav tab. Checking it after every jump, just to be sure.
Reorte and Riedquat are both on same "height" of 48, so is my line of search.
A wormhole to greaveyard systems, with prooves of human bestiality or other shameful deeds could be quite good reason for govs to be shut.
What do u think, a pile of ? At least I found couple of Earthlikes and water worlds, not to mention neutron stars and black holes:)
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Also you forgot that this must be possible to reach within 25-26ly as it was possible in beta and that was the max cobra range. Which those ppsr systems etc arnt possible to do. Howevere those HOAGS out there arnt mapped either and they are possible to get to within 26ly although the problem being is a scoopable star to do it. If you add a feul thank to make the trip you then cut this beta reachable point so i ask did drew mean reachable as in the jump range was suficiant only or was it just that you where able to actually get there.

If he meant it was just jump range reachable then by all means those systems should be checked out. But if you could actually access them and scoop to make it on the beta max range well then it takes them out. The problem is we will not get confirmation on this :-(

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Just because I like being positive.

You don't need horizons for a mystery to be on a planet's surface. It just needs to be visible from orbit.

So, still could be on a planet.

I don't think it will be but yea...

The now landable planets all changed there textures due to the horizons patch so then you could actually also take them out of the equation so it must be a star or atmospheric body :)

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Talking about those HOAGs if anyone manages to get themselfs to EOK EAEC Cluster after about 8k jumps around the arm from bovomit il gladly show you the path i said to those hoags but thats adleast 10k jumps just from bovomit maybe a ton more and on 40-45ly jump range i had it mapped but it is just to much to even do xD
 
so what was the point of coming out to bb-c c-14? the guy just said he solved it and then left...

Sorry to disappoint you, but that is Gypsy normal behaviour. He did this a few times in the UA/UP thread.. an awesome cliffhanger and then.. poof.

To be fair, he is really good at adding tension and thrilling, I reckon that!
 
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Sorry to disappoint you, but that is Gypsy normal behaviour. He did this a few times in the UA/UP thread.. an awesome cliffhanger and then.. poof.

To be fair, he is really good at adding tension and thrilling, I reckon that!


Jeez yeah eh really had me going with those screenshots
 
Keep in mind that Drew stated earlier in the games development that "you can find the rift and what it contains but it's unlikely you'll recognise it for what it is, though it is becoming clearer day by day". We must be missing something, we're either looking for something that's not as it appears to be or something that most people would just pass by unawares.
 
Also you forgot that this must be possible to reach within 25-26ly as it was possible in beta and that was the max cobra range.

I did not forgot, there are closer stars , it's just harder to find the right path - it was all written "find good pilot and plot the way across" - it was meant to be hard, because the prize is so great.

With higher jump range it's just easier - all this are Drew's words.

I've been researching the area for an hour now...and I think I know what is the secret. I suspect what this story will lead to, also what did Drew see in Frontier the other day.

Two clues :
1. " I've stood on lost worlds, sterilised clean by the Thargoids and erased from humanity's maps." ( erase = making them look like a normal wild earth-like or other world )
2. almost every system I visit has earthlike world, water world and ammonia world, plenty of colonizable high metal contents. One system had two water worlds and an ammonia world, its crazy around here.

Sterilised worlds.
Plus :" I've seen the graves from the Thargoid wars, countless headstones stretching beyond the curvature of the horizon, little spots of reflected light dottering the abandoned continent ..." - message is simple : loot and treasres, left alone, salvagable just waiting there for us..

My new bet? Whole story and mystery will first introduce first great human colonisation of a remote sector, maybe with a fed/imp war , to estabilish new human bubble - I swear I heard someone talking about new bubble a while ago.
Then, with the second stage we'll have our christmas mystery expansion - landing exploring and looting atmospheric planets. I imagine, inhabited planets in old bubble will offer nothing for explorers dreaming about riches and glory. So will be with atmospheric planets outside the bubbles, they're just worlds without any history. Then there is new bubble with looooots to find there.

So ,basically, we've been trolled with those Thargoids. As usual , they were mainly used to build hype. Thargoid salvage still sounds good - like the engine and stuff that the other guy found in elite files. But - I'm affraid there will be no war with them this time.
I just feel it in my guts.
 
Keep in mind that Drew stated earlier in the games development that "you can find the rift and what it contains but it's unlikely you'll recognise it for what it is, though it is becoming clearer day by day". We must be missing something, we're either looking for something that's not as it appears to be or something that most people would just pass by unawares.

Black hole without a gravity field? Black hole with a different signature than normal ones? There's been a lot of mention of "gateway". Traditional sci-fi themes dictate that black holes are often times wormholes to another dimension or another area of space. While science clearly states otherwise, not everything in Elite is completely based on science. ;) Has everyone paid good attention to all of the black holes they've found? According to this topic, there are a number of black holes around star fields deemed probable candidates of the rift's secret.
 
Keep in mind that Drew stated earlier in the games development that "you can find the rift and what it contains but it's unlikely you'll recognise it for what it is, though it is becoming clearer day by day". We must be missing something, we're either looking for something that's not as it appears to be or something that most people would just pass by unawares.

Oh ,that quote fits perfectly to my hypothesis!

I found lots of colonizable worlds, but for now they're looking just like anywhere else :) Because we need upcoming expansion which will enable us to visit those worlds and find out the differences. Guys, its really that simple. Drew told many times that you're approaching to this problem wrong way.
I'm telling ya, this is it.

But...goddamit what have I done. Hope I'll somehow make it first to a base with UC ;)
 
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Black hole without a gravity field? Black hole with a different signature than normal ones? There's been a lot of mention of "gateway". Traditional sci-fi themes dictate that black holes are often times wormholes to another dimension or another area of space. While science clearly states otherwise, not everything in Elite is completely based on science. ;) Has everyone paid good attention to all of the black holes they've found? According to this topic, there are a number of black holes around star fields deemed probable candidates of the rift's secret.
I've seen a few black holes around the area, there's a black hole system in the soul nebula but I didn't notice anything off about it. I'll have to check out the others and fly right up to the exclusion zone to see if there's anything up with them. Ugh, I hate doing that though because they creep me out.
 
Oh ,that quote fits perfectly to my hypothesis!

I found lots of colonizable worlds, but for now they're looking just like anywhere else :) Because we need upcoming expansion which will enable us to visit those worlds and find out the differences. Guys, its really that simple. Drew told many times that you're approaching to this problem wrong way.
I'm telling ya, this is it.

But...goddamit what have I done. Hope I'll somehow make it first to a base with UC ;)

But that cannot be true as this mystery was solvable since beta. if we require atmospheric landings (Which wont be christmas will most likely be next season) then what they said about solving the mystery and everything else since beta was all false statements which i doubt they would do.
 
Oh ,that quote fits perfectly to my hypothesis!

I found lots of colonizable worlds, but for now they're looking just like anywhere else :) Because we need upcoming expansion which will enable us to visit those worlds and find out the differences. Guys, its really that simple. Drew told many times that you're approaching to this problem wrong way.
I'm telling ya, this is it.

But...goddamit what have I done. Hope I'll somehow make it first to a base with UC ;)
I doubt that, he also stated that you do not need horizons or any expansion to find it. Plus why would they bother sending us out to search if all it was was a regular earthlike world? That seems like a bit too much of a d--k move.
 
I've seen a few black holes around the area, there's a black hole system in the soul nebula but I didn't notice anything off about it. I'll have to check out the others and fly right up to the exclusion zone to see if there's anything up with them. Ugh, I hate doing that though because they creep me out.

As well it should... Terrifying concept, a black hole.
 
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