Exactly, that whole argument with doing something 'more productively' would have an answer being "Go to work?" or similar, games are entertainment, as long as you are being entertained the game is doing what it should do.
Elite has no respect for people's time.
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If you really think playing games is wasting your time by definition then part of me weeps for you.
I am a casual player, between 3-8 hours a week. I have not found any broken missions yet, and I have plenty of time to achieve what i want to do. Really cant see what the issues are personally. No grind as well.
Then I do not understand the point you are trying to make, unless you mean it is time going from a to b, in which case the result is the same?, if we could jump around between everywhere end to end of civ space within say 10 minutes, then space would feel much smaller, and at least to me ruin part of the appeal, the size of Elite is one of the appeals to me. And for something that is as big as Elite is, we already get everywhere very fast.
Good for you cmdr, a heartening account.
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these people you know.....they also have kids to look after ?..once the day at work is done?....and whats a days work where you come from?...at least 8 hours a day here in uk.
but in regards to a noob getting a big ship in a matter of days...then its a bit wrong....it should take at least a week lol.
only ship I aint got is a cutter,so all week I been grinding the rank....lord to count within the last 4 nights playing.....2 hour sessions each time.
if I could do more I would[knocked out]
i dont think its a lack of respect for peoples time
its simply that if things were to take less time to do people might actually see what they are playing and the lack of actual things to do or accomplish in the game
this is why you see people quitting and being told they played 200 hours so the game must be good.
and amazingly it works,even FD has used this excuse to hype the game.
and nobody says the obvious..it can take an hour to get from A to B or an hour to mine 1 chunk etc
turning the simplest of tasks into a pile inducing time sink seems to equate to a good gaming experience for some.
its simply that if things were to take less time to do people might actually see what they are playing and the lack of actual things to do or accomplish in the game
this is why you see people quitting and being told they played 200 hours so the game must be good.
and amazingly it works,even FD has used this excuse to hype the game.
and nobody says the obvious..it can take an hour to get from A to B or an hour to mine 1 chunk etc
turning the simplest of tasks into a pile inducing time sink seems to equate to a good gaming experience for some.
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If I had to make a list of the 100 most productive things I've done in my life, the only game related things in there might be when I made mods for other people in TES games. Playing a game is fun, but it gets you nowhere and its about as productive as watching paint dry. Luckily for me I dont feel a strong obligation to push myself 24/7, so I allow myself to waste my time for no other reason than that its amusing me.
But productive? No.
Reading this thread was a waste of time. Not your fault though.
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you made mods for TES? what ones sleut?......I love the elder scrolls series and fallout...play them religiously
When I spend an hour playing elite, and think back over what I did, the vast majority of it is was not something I enjoyed. Simply moving through space is no longer enough. I have made thousands of jumps and supercruise curves, they are like breathing now, and there is nothing beyond; no depth once these basic arts are mastered. You see why I need to spend some time away =)
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This is a good point. Thanks.
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I guess for me the goal of life is to enjoy it, and so playing videogames and enjoying myself however I can is deeply fulfilling; it is, to me, productive.
Yup, they play maybe an hour max 2 a day, mostly after kids are in bed, and are having fun, and enjoying what they are doing. Two of them are out exploring, and by any of the well known explorers pace they would be snail slow, but they are enjoying it, they find it entertaining and relaxing, even if they maybe only get to jump a few systems each session.
Elite needs to add feeling of persistence to players. Changing cells values in "background_spreadsheet.xls" does not cut it. Allow us to build racing tracks/refuelling stops on planets, bases to store/showcase cargo and modules and ships. Make it, so we have to haul individual overpriced pieces using special ships. Make it all destroyable.
Community won't bother fdev for years and fdev can go on realizing their useless vision, that has never worked. Players mostly like what space simulation team has done and mostly ignore or dislike what game design team has bolted and mocked atop of it.
Community won't bother fdev for years and fdev can go on realizing their useless vision, that has never worked. Players mostly like what space simulation team has done and mostly ignore or dislike what game design team has bolted and mocked atop of it.
I've been playing for 1000 hours too, and you know what at some point I'm going to get bored too. It's inevitable because no computer game can keep people interested indefinitely (fear the day they can). But you know what, when that finally does happen, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to hang up my head phones, pack my joystick in it's box and I'm going to say "Thanks Frontier, can't believe you gave me a thousand hours+ for £30". Then I'm going to catch up on some TV I missed and see how much my children have grown up.
The question you have to ask yourself, is why do you feel entitled to more?
You do realise that the Engineers are but one aspect of the game right?
That doesn't seem related? if you can do all that now all good? then it takes you less time and you can do what you want to do? explore, fight, trade? whichever?
Maybe you could explain it by outlining what you would like to see, say, what would you like to be able to do within an hour?
Your post makes sense. And its something ive posted myself more than once. Yet..people still dont get it. So dont be supirsed when you get a negative response. Hvae some rep.
Mostly for Morrowind, where my monicker was Mephisto. The mods were Cap Remover, Cloaks, Creature Pack (to go with the cap remover), Rogues & Ambushes (adds high-lvl NPCs that attack depending on your actions with improved AI) and some others.
Please, it's not a question of entitlement. Can you not discern from my tone that this is deeper than that? I love this game and it pains me to realize that I don't like playing it. I would only want Elite to be the best game it can be.
I'd never, ever question the value for money that the game has delivered (and you will note that I have not done this). I have never claimed to be "entitled" to more - this seems to be internet hate word that is doing the rounds these years. Like you say, I am thankful for all the good times and move on in good faith.
I simply come from a place of love that would see Elite become all it can, yet is sad because I feel that it can't/ won't.