UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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It would be fun if the free-floating UP-s turned out to be looking for Jaques station. After all, his Beagle-jump attempt probably made quite the splash in witchspace.
(inb4 they are found around the Eol Prou nebula)
 
To me the UP seem to like planets.

It points to a planet and it only howls when close to a planet.

Because of this, I have been focusing my search on the planet zones (as opposed to star zones or deep space). I have searched in the shell and in barnacle systems, so far.

What I would like to ad to the equation is a nebula. There aren't really any nebula that intersects with the UA shell, so I'll be going to the Taurus Dark region. It's the closet thing I can think of.

Suggestions are welcome.:)
 
well fist of back from holiday so now back to fining something

second of all whe shoud try searching araund planets in the nebula then for the freefloater up's

Maybe in the maia system cause if the aliens want a message delivered they shoud place them close to humans
 
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I have feeling that the UPs origin is more important then its target when looking for free floating UPs
 
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well fist of back from holiday so now back to fining something

second of all whe shoud try searching araund planets in the nebula then for the freefloater up's

Maybe in the maia system cause if the aliens want a message delivered those thing shoud be close to humans

I'm positive there is a second shell of greater distance and the UA's are relays of some sort, or vice versa. They are in a smaller shell and the UP's are the relay.

Maybe one is pointing at the destination and one is pointing at the source?
 

Arguendo

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Fair warning; Multi-quote coming up!

So...a hypothesis. At the moment the only UP's we are able to find are those from the T4 Convoy. The convoy states that it's done its testing at Alpha site, and is now progressing to Beta site.
No! When followed the UP Convoy goes to the Alpha Site first, then completes the test and moves to Beta Site. This was reported by mykl atrum on June 24 and is in the notes for the "Wake Scan" info on the UP Locator Spreadsheet. So, "we" find them before they have done any tests.

As far as I know, UP convoys have only been found by Elite pilots or wings of several pilots.
No! Again, check the spreadsheet. mykl atrum was solo on June 24 and he is/was Master at the time.

Wouldn't [the UPs] being in a bigger bubble defeat the purpose of being a finer probe? Expanding the bubble would just be brute-forcing.
Now, I'm not saying they're neither, and if they are a fine probe, and they seem to be, we need to find their target.
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It seems logical [the UPs] would be in merope but the sheer volume of commanders in the system means if they were surrounding a planet we would likely have found them by now.
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I think there is merit in searching systems around Merope and specifically searching around planets (not within orbital cruise because of the previous comment from MB). I will be focussing around those areas over the weekend but thats my train of thought at the moment.
I made a note of this earlier, and I'll emphasize it again. We have so far found four locations in Federation space that spawn UP Convoys (Ross 47, G 99-49, Wolf 294 and LTT 1935). From the first sightings in Federation space there seemed to be a tangible reference to Sol and/or Sirius, as they were all close to these systems. With LTT 1935 that changed however, as that is 65-70LY away from those two systems. LTT 1935 does however fall neatly into a 365 (+/-2)LY distance from Merope that the other three were as well. So, we have four UP Convoys in Federation space some distance apart, and they all are almost the same distance from Merope. It's strange to me if that is a coincidence.
The "anomaly" is the unconfirmed UP Convoy found in Alliance space Wolf 504. That system is about 460LY away from Merope.

Either way, if there is some logic to where these UP Convoys show up (and really, really hope they are not RNG like everything else), then here's what makes sense to me.
If you find a UP and it points to Merope (and even if you think it's a UA, that also points to Merope), why would you pick it up and travel away from that system to do tests on it? I believe the first test that was made by players was to find out exactly where it points, hence bringing it closer to it's "target".
The conundrum here is that the UP shows a more "focused" behavior, in that it points to a specific planet, not just the main star in the "target system." Logic would then indicate that it should be closer to the target system as it focuses more. You don't move away from an object to get a closer look at it.

When I am done with the oh-so-joyful Palin grind (Lvl 1 Qwent incoming), I am going to head on out and search between the distance of the Fed Convoys and the Alliance Convoy. That means 360-460LY from Merope, and I will focus on non-inhabitated systems. If they were showing up in inhabited systems, there would be a lot more surfacing on the NPC side atleast.

It's what makes sense to me. YMMV.
 
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I'm positive there is a second shell of greater distance and the UA's are relays of some sort, or vice versa. They are in a smaller shell and the UP's are the relay.

Maybe one is pointing at the destination and one is pointing at the source?

that woud be possible too but if we go with a logical procces of first contact then

ua woud sacn for the unknown alien reace from their pow

and then send out a probe with some info to something

then a peacefull first contact woud be made

by this logic is possible that there is another shell but also that we find up's araund human space in the plaideas
 
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To me the UP seem to like planets.

It points to a planet and it only howls when close to a planet.

Because of this, I have been focusing my search on the planet zones (as opposed to star zones or deep space). I have searched in the shell and in barnacle systems, so far.

What I would like to ad to the equation is a nebula. There aren't really any nebula that intersects with the UA shell, so I'll be going to the Taurus Dark region. It's the closet thing I can think of.

Suggestions are welcome.:)

The taurus dark region is acutally a dark nebula, so in my books it would count.

There is the hind nebula, but I do believe it's already to far off to intersect the UA shell by at least 100 lyr.
 
If they are "in a nebular" - how many systems should we search and for how long? This is easily a number above 500 K. Impossible for us. We need at least more research, or a slight hint ingame. Or an information that we missed a hint ingame :)

Hello commander
I will conduct an exploration mission in the BLUE EAEC AA-A H74 nebulae. What sort of stars should I be looking for that have had the most common UP sightings and what type of planets should I be looking for? Also another question on a different topic does Jaques station have outfitting available yet?


Commander Sabre
 
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Free floating UAs were found when there was very little activity in the Pleiades compared to now
If they are in the Pleiades would have thought someone would have come across them?

well i dont think most pepole sits araund for hours in the plaideas but thats what im gonna do now so

if there is a free floater ill just give a huge riz thype shout to ya lot
 
Free floating UAs were found when there was very little activity in the Pleiades compared to now
If they are in the Pleiades would have thought someone would have come across them?

Yep find it unlikely they will be in Pleides otherwise wed have found them by now. It is relieving to know we can abandon surfaces for the time being.

Suggests they are either just floating around wildly somewhere else, or there is a different source rather then USSs.

I have a few theories to try myself
1 - fly around in known UA-spawning systems some more
2 - fly around in known UA-spawning systems while I have UA(s) on board (might need AFM for that!)
3 - find "twin" systems of Merope elsewhere outside of the UA shell and fly around those a bunch
4 - find "twin" nebulae for pleides elsewhere and fly around those a bunch
 
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Arguendo

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Hello commander
I will conduct an exploration mission in the BLUE EAEC AA-A H74 nebulae. What sort of stars should I be looking for that have had the most common UP sightings and what type of planets should I be looking for?
If we knew the answers to that one we would have had UP Free Floaters already. "The most common UP sightings" right now are Convoys. In fact, they are the only sightings.
Your guess is as good as ours commander.

well i dont think most pepole sits araund for hours in the plaideas but thats what im gonna do now so
But you don't have to sit around for hours in known UA systems afaik. Sometimes they appear "immediately" and sometimes you have to search for them. If there were UPs in the Pleiades, then chances are someone would have tripped upon an "immediate USS" by now.
 
This is Hieronymus Bosch,

My co pilot Major Pareidolia and 3rd mate Captain Decoder ring believe we have stumbled across more data for a solution.
(Although I suspect Major Pareidolia may in fact be some paint peeling in my ship...)

I think it may be much simpler than we have been imagining -check this out.
http://imgur.com/a/aDyEq
http://imgur.com/a/xzay9

I think the text reads 55 L M2 (But could be making a mistake here)
On the circle the globe appears like a planet map, the radial line i think is a coordinate - this marks a longitude of Sin (-45) *-90 = -63.63 Does 55 mark Lattitude (L)?
Does M2 mean Merope 2 (Not 5c)

Have been to Merope 2s' 4 planets and hunted these coordinates with nothing found.

I also think Major Pareidolia has been stealing all the tea and biscuits - not to mention he looks at me strangely.... I am becoming very afraid.
I think all this space and rocks is making him insane. I shall use extra tin foil around my head tonight.

If someone can make anything of this let me know. Best of luck
Thank you kindly

Heironymus Bosch
 
With Mr Brookes answers for Free floating UP's (Virtual rep for You, I am out of real Rep for now) I am considering to do this to check is there a shell around California and Witch Head nebulaes:

Choose Barnacle system at California Nebula (California Sector BA-A e6). Plot route to Witch Head nebula Barnacle site (Witch Head Sector LC-V c2-10) Jump with economy jump steps between them. In each system, fly 75% throttle about 2000Ls towards next jump target and check all USS's and then jump next system.

759.92Ly for jumping. Done with one Playing Session (Mine is about 2-3hours).
 
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The UP has 2 heads....... Any double Nebula ? I know Heart & Soul but there are a lot of people searching that due to Rift stuff, so if they are there they will be found.
I am wondering of the shape of the UP is significant ?
 
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