So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)

Siranui

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Jaiotu said:
I'd like to know more about this 'London Treaty'.
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It has a historical basis in the Washington Treaty and London Treaties signed between the World Wars, intended to stop the massive, massive naval arms race that preceded the Great War. It attempted to limit the size and firepower of navy ships. In reality it led to superpowers initially making more efficient and *better* battleships per tonne, rather than limiting effectiveness. Later treaties tried to stem the tide, but seeing as large navy ships were THE superweapon of the era, it was in every power's influence to subvert things.

Everybody tried to cheat and the situation worstened: Germany made pocket battleships and lied about displacement and production; Japan pretty much ignored, it and the UK and US declared that because *reasons* they could make larger ships. France decided they didn't want to take part and opted out.

Ultimately it failed to limit the super-power arms race.
 
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Jaiotu

Jaiotu
Siranui said:
It has a historical basis in the Washington Treaty and London Treaties signed between the World Wars, intended to stop the massive, massive naval arms race that preceded the Great War. It attempted to limit the size and firepower of navy ships. In reality it led to superpowers initially making more efficient and *better* battleships per tonne, rather than limiting effectiveness. Later treaties tried to stem the tide, but seeing as large navy ships were THE superweapon of the era, it was in every power's influence to subvert things.

Everybody tried to cheat and the situation worstened: Germany made pocket battleships and lied about displacement and production; Japan pretty much ignored, it and the UK and US declared that because *reasons* they could make larger ships. France decided they didn't want to take part and opted out.

Ultimately it failed to limit the super-power arms race.
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That is a different London treaty. The Galnet article says this one was signed in 3278.
 

Colonel Kenney

Colonel Kenney
drew said:
Salomé isn't being played by me. I don't have the time!

And she isn't the only 'special' NPC out there... ;)

As for the content... It's multi-faceted, multi-linked as described in my blog. The original mystery has been there since gamma, but we have been developing more as the game itself becomes more sophisticated. Remember that player actions are shaping the story. The fact that many CMDRs have been searching the Rift has already had an impact...

Cheers,

Drew.
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Ahhh so we are not looking for a planet really.. more of a ship..
 

Jaiotu

Jaiotu
Ladies and gentlemen, I have a proposal to offer:

Not long ago LuckyLuke was able to deliver us the news the the "Formidine Rifters" have been recognized as a 'player group' by Frontier Developments. We aren't a 'faction' per se as we have our own allegiances to minor factions as well as the major factions but we are all connected by the Rift and a common goal.

Its time we asked the Galactic Intern to apply for a position with the Rifters. We should have done this a long time ago. Maybe we could even coax CMDR Salome to make an appearance?

Thoughts?
 
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Helfar

Helfar
Jaiotu said:
Ladies and gentlemen, I have a proposal to offer:

Not long ago LuckyLuke was able to deliver us the news the the "Formidine Rifters" have been recognized as a 'player group' by Frontier Developments. We aren't a 'faction' per se as we have our own allegiances to minor factions as well as the major factions but we are all connected by the Rift and a common goal.

Its time we asked the Galactic Intern to apply for a position with the Rifters. We should have done this a long time ago. Maybe we could even coax CMDR Salome to make an appearance?

Thoughts?
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How many of us are armed, as it is necessary to kill him isn't it? :)
 

Dehzz

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drew said:
The fact that many CMDRs have been searching the Rift has already had an impact...
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Wow, hope that's us on the other side. By the way, I've created a new fb group for sharing the experience and valuable data. One of our discoveries is that the Polonium is very rare out there, someone don't want us to use jumponium too much I guess:)
Feel free to join, IF you believe in the "Corrected RR line" - that is a line which passes through the H&S Nebulae. Come and help us research the area, it's 20,200 ly from the old bubble. The group is called The Deep Rifters and is HERE.
 

Helfar

Helfar
Dehzz said:
Wow, hope that's us on the other side. By the way, I've created a new fb group for sharing the experience and valuable data. One of our discoveries is that the Polonium is very rare out there, someone don't want us to use jumponium too much I guess:)
Feel free to join, IF you believe in the "Corrected RR line" - that is a line which passes through the H&S Nebulae. Come and help us research the area, it's 20,200 ly from the old bubble. The group is called The Deep Rifters and is HERE.[/QUOTE

I'm a member of the FBA so can't use it :)
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IliteratSqirel

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Jaiotu said:
Looking at that Galnet article I was struck by this:



I'd like to know more about this 'London Treaty'. It sounds like this treaty is the reason why capital ships' use a different technology for hyperspace travel. Plus the name London Treaty. London was one of the places the Kahina visited during her trip to Sol and Prism's tantalum export has deep ties to the FSD industry. Grabbing some tinfoil.
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I think this is quite interesting for different reasons: the initial London treaty referenced here was triggered by the invention of a new type of hyperdrive (the FSD). In the same breath we hear mention of a company working on a new type of hyperdrive... No coincidence there.

drew said:
Salomé isn't being played by me. I don't have the time!

And she isn't the only 'special' NPC out there... ;)

As for the content... It's multi-faceted, multi-linked as described in my blog. The original mystery has been there since gamma, but we have been developing more as the game itself becomes more sophisticated. Remember that player actions are shaping the story. The fact that many CMDRs have been searching the Rift has already had an impact...

Cheers,

Drew.
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This has me wondering whether, as someone here just offered, the presence of so many CMDRs in the rift may have been perceived by alien powers as an attempt at invasion or even a threat. What's more, I'm quite doubting Salome's motives: the way her speech has evolved from the book to the address she gave at Beagle Point hints at aspirations of leadership with that messianic tone. What if she is actually keen on creating conflict between outside powers she already knows about and the human race? What if she tries to create conflict in order to gather people under her banner?
Remember guys and gals, you heard it here first!

Jaiotu said:
Ladies and gentlemen, I have a proposal to offer:

Not long ago LuckyLuke was able to deliver us the news the the "Formidine Rifters" have been recognized as a 'player group' by Frontier Developments. We aren't a 'faction' per se as we have our own allegiances to minor factions as well as the major factions but we are all connected by the Rift and a common goal.

Its time we asked the Galactic Intern to apply for a position with the Rifters. We should have done this a long time ago. Maybe we could even coax CMDR Salome to make an appearance?

Thoughts?
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For the above reasons: this may be counter-productive.

/tinfoil hat off: then again, maybe that's a great idea!
 

Jpotter

Jpotter
Colonel Kenney said:
Ahhh so we are not looking for a planet really.. more of a ship..
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In Drew's AMA on reddit I think this hint is key, based on this you can see it from a distance. For my search, every few hundred LYs, I fly far from the sun to get clear into the black and look around for.... something. I'm thinking a strange cloud, flashing lights, some kind of structure in the distance (aka. Dyson Sphere).

[–]AerovoidAerovoid 3 points 2 months ago
Hello Drew,
I'm not sure if I'm too late to the ama, but here's my question.
Whatever it is that we're looking for in the rift, can it be seen from a distance? (Like a bright star, planetary nebula etc) or does one need to follow a specific trail of clues?
So far my method has been to fly out as far as I can and look around for anything that stands out. I'm not sure if this a futile strategy or not.
Thank you for your time and for creating this mystery!



[–]drewwagarDrew Wagar | Official ED Author | www.drewwagar.com 2 points 2 months ago

Certainly there will be markers that are visible, but not everything is. By searching in the fashion you have been, you may already have seen some aspects of it.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDange...m_anything_drew_wagar_author_of_elite/d3oi9py
 

drew

drew
BluWolve said:
Hello Drew,

I was wondering if any of these "special" npc's are also accessible to Xbox players? I would guess Salomé is strictly on PC, but at the mention of others I am hoping that there is something similar for the console versions of ED.
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This is on my list to have a look at. I hadn't originally appreciated that CMDRs were unique to each platform (which is annoying!)

Cheers,

Drew.

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Jorki Rasalas said:
Octavia?
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She's dead.

I hope.

Cheers,

Drew.
 
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Helfar

Helfar
DrewCarnegie said:
She was planning on 'downloading' her personality into Kahina's body.
Seems to me that a person like Octavia would have already tested that functionality...
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Would be my view too. Don't try and bamboozal us with 'oh that amazing bad guy i made is dead', we don't believe it :D
 
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