UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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Stillsober

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bitstorm said:
1. Yes
2. This is answered on the first page : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11-flqh1BfhRg8tPEVy4UaWiXyRQL8VBz42LYmUsHNVY/edit#gid=0
3. Don't know, you have to be within 300m for the UP to be triggered by the ADS

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Aye loads, but they keep changing.

My current thoughts are around the UA/UP differences.

I've been trying to come up with some solid basis for why the UA points at Merope the star, and the UP points at Merope 5c.

The only in-game reason I can come up with is that :

  • The UA is intended to act at a distance, where planets aren't easily discernable. In other words it broadcasts a strong signal in the direction of the Merope system.
  • While the UP is intended to function locally, where pointing at the star may be in fact the wrong direction due to the "listening station" being on Merope 5c.

The implication of this would be that UPs may be found in the Merope system.

I've done a 2.2 million LS run from 5c outward based on the theory the UPs may be produced by barnacles, and that they travel outward in the local system, reporting back to their source.

Found nowt, though it is hard to watch the nav panel continuously for so long so I can't guarantee I didn't miss a USS flashing by.
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Yes this. I agree with why UA,s point to Merope Star.
maybe A UP bubble is inside the UA bubble closer to the system which is why it can pick out a planet but how can we know
where i mean the UA Bubble is Huge in diameter and the amount of systems it has we need to narrow it down somehow
I have also searched Merope system with no Anomaly SS.
 

Xenia_K

Xenia_K
Stillsober said:
Ok so my thinking now is that our main priority is to find Free Floaters.
I have tried searching the UA bubble assuming UP's are in the same region as per Galnet post.
So far I have had nothing in this region so I worked my way back towards Merope checking every signal source but not even an anomaly source so I have run out of ideas here.

Now im just going to search inside Pleiades whilst doing the CG.
Where is everyone looking for UPs cos I think this is where the breakthrough will happen.

Any thoughts?
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Yep - a quick one. Did anybody at some point try to trace back the Convoys ?
If simulated correctly, they also should drop into the system in the area where we drop in. Even though we only can estimate a rough vector (actually its negation)
and knowing that conyoys usually have a T9, Python or similar, it can be assumed that the jump is not more than 20LY? Align Your ship with the estimated dirction the convoy came from and one by one select the targets on Your list to get one or a small selection of systems the convoy might have come from. If working as team, your wingman at the same time can check if the source really is a mil convoy. A little bit of an effort, but it might work? Once system identified, You (and Your wing) jump there and repeat...
 

Stillsober

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DialBforBiscuit said:
I bet if we honk close to the UA's signal source the UP one will pop up. At least I hope. I'm looking for one to test the theory but RNG isn't playing ball.
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I tried this aswell looked in the UA bubble in a bunch of different systems found plenty of anomaly threat 4 SS.
honked in SC then honked in normal space no change.
Blew up UA then honked but nothing new so I left it at that.
 

Xenia_K

Xenia_K
Another quick thought:

what if the whole diagram isn´t Nav at all but a story ?
lower right , binary 001 = 1. System was detected (arrow from position to center) ?by UA?
upper left, binary 010 = 2. this was reported (wave from system out) ?by UA?
upper right binary 011 = 3. system was scanned in detail (3 waves in) ?by UP?

riddle to solve : whats 4.?
 

Niamhy

Niamhy
quick thought. the image to the left of the "map" image. are there any planets with 3 rings? Try flying between the rings and the globe in the planets in Merope, Maia, Sterope etc. See if anything spawns there.

(apologies if it's been done already, I've been following this thread since part 1 and there is just too much information)
 

Stillsober

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GeneralGhostt said:
anyone has a quick way to get a ua i need one for something somewhere
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Head around 137ly - 150LY away from Merope. My recent finds where around struves lost sector and Hind sector.
Mostly found in systems with planets although I'm sure they can be found in single star systems.

Do do you have an experiment in mind?
 

GeneralGhostt

GeneralGhostt
Stillsober said:
Head around 137ly - 150LY away from Merope. My recent finds where around struves lost sector and Hind sector.
Mostly found in systems with planets although I'm sure they can be found in single star systems.

Do do you have an experiment in mind?
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well i wanted to test one thing cause one i found one inside the bubble and sold it like a stupid person but there is one think i want to test myself
and if i fail then ill just drop it into maia 2

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also if i had any photoshop skill i woud try to put the up message on the ua shell but im a noob at that
 
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smizzo

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RandolfK said:
Yep - a quick one. Did anybody at some point try to trace back the Convoys ?
If simulated correctly, they also should drop into the system in the area where we drop in. Even though we only can estimate a rough vector (actually its negation)
and knowing that conyoys usually have a T9, Python or similar, it can be assumed that the jump is not more than 20LY? Align Your ship with the estimated dirction the convoy came from and one by one select the targets on Your list to get one or a small selection of systems the convoy might have come from.
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I don't think that's possible, there's no way to tell where something jumped from.
 
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bitstorm

bitstorm
So as requested by the spreadsheet and some personal pms.

Here is audio of:

1) UP deployed
2) UA deployed
3) ADS
4) Collect UP
5) Record UA

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8ck-2ELKOuLankzY2N1d08wOFU

The test is to determine if the pulse alters the UA in any way.

Is anyone able to decode the UA morse to ensure it still images the ship after a UP pulse? I am in an Anaconda.

THe UA audio starts proper ~1:47, you can hear me close cargo then go to debug cam.
 

Tihiy

Tihiy
For several days, I had planned to economical route from Merope, away from the inhabited space, and trying to find a UP. In each system, I spend at least 4-6 minutes, constantly watching for the appearance of the signals. Even if only one star in system. (Very addictive gameplay, please note). At the moment I moved away to 350 light years, but found nothing. There was a lot of boring conventional signals and several UA, when I crossed the UA-bubble.
I think I will continue to 500 light years. For more I did not have enough patience.
 

DialBforBiscuit

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Stillsober said:
I tried this aswell looked in the UA bubble in a bunch of different systems found plenty of anomaly threat 4 SS.
honked in SC then honked in normal space no change.
Blew up UA then honked but nothing new so I left it at that.
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And all my efforts came with the same result, but flying around the UAs and signal sources generated another theory.

Assume the grid circle is an orientation guide. Like in our ships. And assume the latitude lines are curved slight because the transmission is fuzzy or warped because of a handful of reasons.

There is a faded circle in the middle of the scan image. A hollow one. The same kind you would see facing away from a targeted body. The rest of the image is telling us in what way we need to fly away from merope 5c. We've been looking for a map, but space maps are hard. What if it's a start here, face this way, and fly. It could be information the UP has used to travel. Like a default programming and explains how it traveled from its origin. I don't see how the thing could come from merope 5c but if the UAs came from the merope system (based on how they spawned) the UPs could have originated there too. The real question is, how to orient ourselves. The binary numbers may not be an order, but a description. Like the idea with it counting things in a system. Except it's telling us a star should be top right, rings should be top left, two planets bottom left, etc.
 

Spruxxx

Spruxxx
GeneralGhostt said:
anyone has a quick way to get a ua i need one for something somewhere
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Funny was just about to post I have a UA corroding my hold in need of experimentation.

If you want to find one yourself, I'm in the UA shell at Hyades Sector AB-W B2-2. 2 Anomaly Threat 4s with UAs found within 15 minutes of each other between B2-2 5 and 6. Thanks to the Commander who mentioned this system being worth a look, apologies I've forgotten your name. It's populated with Federal military, and the outpost 'Pre Logistics Support Delta'. It sells Articulation Motors, Micro-Weave Cooling Hoses, and Magnetic Emitter Coils, if that's useful.

Some other interesting finds in the system so far.

1. Distress Call Threat 4 - stranded Farragut battlecruiser. Nothing new in itself, these have been in-game for over a year, but after the first 2 wings of pirates, an Elite pirate Farragut, called the Orion, shows up to join the fight. That was new to me.
2. Two High Grade emissions signals within minutes of each other, not seen many of those to date. Both contained Core Dynamics and Proprietary composites. These used to occasionally appear in Encoded Emissions signals.
3. Found a whole Anaconda wreck (apart from laser scorch marks) in an Encoded Emission source along with a private data beacon in a station corridor-type wreck - obtained Datamined Wake Scans. Last words on the msg, "What the...."

Have pics of the above if you want more info.

For a UA on the ground, try Izanami A4a and find the crashed Anaconda at Lat / Long: -2.26 / 145.13

Hope that helps, good luck.
 

GeneralGhostt

GeneralGhostt
bitstorm said:
So as requested by the spreadsheet and some personal pms.

Here is audio of:

1) UP deployed
2) UA deployed
3) ADS
4) Collect UP
5) Record UA

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8ck-2ELKOuLankzY2N1d08wOFU

The test is to determine if the pulse alters the UA in any way.

Is anyone able to decode the UA morse to ensure it still images the ship after a UP pulse? I am in an Anaconda.

THe UA audio starts proper ~1:47, you can hear me close cargo then go to debug cam.
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dunno but here is a specto pic from the audio

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rizal72

rizal72
bitstorm said:
So as requested by the spreadsheet and some personal pms.

Here is audio of:

1) UP deployed
2) UA deployed
3) ADS
4) Collect UP
5) Record UA

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8ck-2ELKOuLankzY2N1d08wOFU

The test is to determine if the pulse alters the UA in any way.

Is anyone able to decode the UA morse to ensure it still images the ship after a UP pulse? I am in an Anaconda.

THe UA audio starts proper ~1:47, you can hear me close cargo then go to debug cam.
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I could do it very easily at home, but I'm on holidays now, so I can't.
Anyway, I've already did your test with the first UP, and the UA went on morseing my Asp as usual. So I wouldn't put many expectations on it...
 
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