UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

[Z4VOS 9000]

Buried SRV on Merope 5C

Observation report (unknown importance) : Using the UP sonic image diagonal line on the circle, assuming the center is 0, 0 latitude, longitude, and the squares are 20, 20 lat, long if looked at as a globe, the diagonal line ends at -80, +70 lat, long. I landed there and immediately picked up a strong signal which was located at -80.0047, +70.4683. What I found was a buried SRV (see pdf), and two canisters (geological equipment and nerve agents). There was no data core to communicate with. The label read "Chassis Cargo Unit, 82966498-78 500T, Impact Resistant Shell". Not sure if this is important or just random RNG. The game crashed as I tried to explore the SRV more. Note that Merope 5C has no atmosphere, and so it would take some unknown force to bury an SRV in dust as it is not a crashed ship.
-AE67

View attachment Merope buried SRV.pdf

 

[Bungalo]

Yeah, so the difference that I've been using between "purrs" and "chirps" has been mostly from the front page.

Purrs: Regular and low frequency. Consist of 15 "pulses" at a given frequency, one is notably shorter than the other.

Spoiler

"Low Purr"     55hz     A1    ~3.4sec full duration
"High Purr"    ~88hz    F2    ~1.8sec full duration

Purrs:
http://i.imgur.com/WZ8co8R.png

Purrs sound like this:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6603562/Elite UP/purrs.mp3

Chirps: Irregular, and higher-frequency. Chirps happen in the 800-1200hz range, and frequently consist of "triplets" of 3 chirps in a pattern of "high" and "low" chirps. Sometimes sounds in that frequency band happen not in triplets, but I've ignored those as they appear to be ambient noise.

Spoiler

Chirps:

http://i.imgur.com/5jTEMEi.png

Chirps sound like this:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6603562/Elite UP/chirp.mp3

Ok, I gave Vent Aileron's Audio a listen, and found some interesting stuff. First off, you and Mykl's audio was cleaner, so the counts for Vent's audio might be off by +/- 1 or 2.

Here's the data:

                                            Purrs       chirp triplets       Purrs/min       Chirp Triplets/min
Merope 5                                      18       7                     6.0              2.3
Merope 5 cleanest                             18       10                    6.0              3.3
Near Merope                                   18       14                    6.0              4.7
Near Merope Cleanest                          17       13                    5.7              4.3
Merope 5c                                     17       9                     5.7              3.0
Merope 5c Cleanest                            18       4                     6.0              1.3
Praea Theia RT-Z D13-7                        33       6                     11.0             2.0
Merope Deep Space (Vent Aileron)              32       7                     10.7             2.3
NCG 2546 Sector CR-U D3-29 A 1 High Orbit     31       7                     10.3             2.3
NCG 2546 Sector CR-U D3-29 Triple Take        34       8                     11.3             2.7
Unknown Probe (1hr Recording from NetSlayer)  17       11                    5.7              3.7

Observations:

• Immediately noticeable is that the purr rate for the audio from Vent Aileron is almost double that of the other recordings. I initially thought those audio files got sped up, because the "Purr" duration and pitch also seems altered in those recordings, but the chirps pitch and duration is the same as in Mykl's recordings. I re-downloaded the files to double check, as well. This is wierd.
• The 1hr recording from netslayer, interestingly, is at the "normal" purr rate. I, unfortunately, don't have a location for this recording. It is an hour long recording, and interstingly, does not have "scoop/eject" noises in it, so I suspect it's a "fresh, untainted" UP. Not sure what that means.
• In the recordings from Mykl, the rate of purrs is constant (within a reasonable margin of error). In the recordings from Vent the rate of purrs is constant, but different.
• In the recordings from Mykl, the rate of chirp triplets varies (good evidence it varies) possibly with a weak correlation to location (unsure, lack of data). In the recordings from Vent, the rate of chirp triplets is constant (within a reasonable margin of error).

Conclusion:

• Purr rate is not linked to the system you are in. It does vary, but cause is unknown.
• Chirp rate is likely not linked to location. We did see variations in chirp rate, but only within the Merope system.

And now for another note: Remember, everyone, when you're trying to solve a problem like this, to think like a game designer. The designers of this puzzle are humans, and have designed it to be solved by us players.

Nets recording is from merope 5c planetside. All the merope recordings have that slower rate. The other recordings do not . I bet another system will have that slower rate too.

The chirps changing in merope is interesting should be looked at more as well. Do you use visualization or go by ear?

 

[Ozric]

Chirp rate is likely not linked to location. We did see variations in chirp rate, but only within the Merope system. .

Surely that's a perfect reason to suspect it is. Also that it's very important if you find another system where the chirps differ, as Bungalo intimated.

 

[Xenia_K]

has anyone until now taken not only the number of chirps but also their coding (i think to remember someone posted they are random, so I guess yes) ?
Would it be possible to share the sequences found, together with indicating the recordings they are from ?

 

[AnotherVoice]

Since you guys have not seen the artbook yet... or caught on this. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/206286966948495360/215494144162791425/unknown.png that was in the art book. do with it what you will.

Amazing... This thing inside the head part makes me think of some recording device / storage device

 

[Bungalo]

has anyone until now taken not only the number of chirps but also their coding (i think to remember someone posted they are random, so I guess yes) ?
Would it be possible to share the sequences found, together with indicating the recordings they are from ?

I've only examined the purrs. Beyond discovering merope has less purrs than other systems (that we've tested) I havent found any pattern or repeat with the purrs.

Chirps are 100% Shae's observations. The purr speed may indicate a system while the chirps may indicate a certain thing in the system?

Also, bear in mind, they have changed the base rate of the UP transmision. Nets recording on merope 5c was prior to that change. Mykl's recordings (about page 400) and vents recordings (front page) are both after that update. I don't know how much the update changed the speed but that I'd a potential confound.

Anyone can check those recordings

 

[Xenia_K]

Amazing... This thing inside the head part makes me think of some recording device / storage device

me it reminds of a phased array antenna, which would mean that the UP doesn´t have to point where it wants to send

 

[MyklAtrum]

Yeah, so the difference that I've been using between "purrs" and "chirps" has been mostly from the front page.

Purrs: Regular and low frequency. Consist of 15 "pulses" at a given frequency, one is notably shorter than the other.

Spoiler

"Low Purr"     55hz     A1    ~3.4sec full duration
"High Purr"    ~88hz    F2    ~1.8sec full duration

Purrs:
http://i.imgur.com/WZ8co8R.png

Purrs sound like this:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6603562/Elite UP/purrs.mp3

Chirps: Irregular, and higher-frequency. Chirps happen in the 800-1200hz range, and frequently consist of "triplets" of 3 chirps in a pattern of "high" and "low" chirps. Sometimes sounds in that frequency band happen not in triplets, but I've ignored those as they appear to be ambient noise.

Spoiler

Chirps:

http://i.imgur.com/5jTEMEi.png

Chirps sound like this:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6603562/Elite UP/chirp.mp3

Ok, I gave Vent Aileron's Audio a listen, and found some interesting stuff. First off, you and Mykl's audio was cleaner, so the counts for Vent's audio might be off by +/- 1 or 2.

Here's the data:

                                            Purrs       chirp triplets       Purrs/min       Chirp Triplets/min
Merope 5                                      18       7                     6.0              2.3
Merope 5 cleanest                             18       10                    6.0              3.3
Near Merope                                   18       14                    6.0              4.7
Near Merope Cleanest                          17       13                    5.7              4.3
Merope 5c                                     17       9                     5.7              3.0
Merope 5c Cleanest                            18       4                     6.0              1.3
Praea Theia RT-Z D13-7                        33       6                     11.0             2.0
Merope Deep Space (Vent Aileron)              32       7                     10.7             2.3
NCG 2546 Sector CR-U D3-29 A 1 High Orbit     31       7                     10.3             2.3
NCG 2546 Sector CR-U D3-29 Triple Take        34       8                     11.3             2.7
Unknown Probe (1hr Recording from NetSlayer)  17       11                    5.7              3.7

Observations:

• Immediately noticeable is that the purr rate for the audio from Vent Aileron is almost double that of the other recordings. I initially thought those audio files got sped up, because the "Purr" duration and pitch also seems altered in those recordings, but the chirps pitch and duration is the same as in Mykl's recordings. I re-downloaded the files to double check, as well. This is wierd.
• The 1hr recording from netslayer, interestingly, is at the "normal" purr rate. I, unfortunately, don't have a location for this recording. It is an hour long recording, and interstingly, does not have "scoop/eject" noises in it, so I suspect it's a "fresh, untainted" UP. Not sure what that means.
• In the recordings from Mykl, the rate of purrs is constant (within a reasonable margin of error). In the recordings from Vent the rate of purrs is constant, but different.
• In the recordings from Mykl, the rate of chirp triplets varies (good evidence it varies) possibly with a weak correlation to location (unsure, lack of data). In the recordings from Vent, the rate of chirp triplets is constant (within a reasonable margin of error).

Conclusion:

• Purr rate is not linked to the system you are in. It does vary, but cause is unknown.
• Chirp rate is likely not linked to location. We did see variations in chirp rate, but only within the Merope system.

And now for another note: Remember, everyone, when you're trying to solve a problem like this, to think like a game designer. The designers of this puzzle are humans, and have designed it to be solved by us players.

Very nice work! Rep of course. Of note, Netslayer's 1 hour recording was on the surface of Merope 5C if its the one I think it is. Whether being on a planet influences it or not is still to be determined I guess. But that was also before they shortened the length of the probes "transmission" in the patch. So I'd love to see a new surface recording analyzed to see if its the same. I'm not sure if Bitstorm recorded there or not? But his would be after the patch if so.

Also I believe Bungalo tested the purrs in Pleione also and got the same as what Vent's recordings were. He'd have to confirm that though, as I'm not entirely sure.

Edit: Ninja'd due to page not telling me there were more responses! Lol

 

[Xenia_K]

Anyone can check those recordings

just on it although here in India its near Midnight already and the download speed of my I-Net USB-Stick, well lets put it this way, one soundfile of 16MB takes 20 minutes to slurp
thats why i asked if someone noted down already - seams it will be me, as i have the suspicion that the chirps might be decoded into system coordinates or something similar, by adding a key. That might be the sequences given in the diagram, that might be re-shuffling the chirp triplets according to 2-3-4-1, or adding that mysterious GALNet Article info about a dead commanders log "OTSEAF", crypt-hacking brut-force

 

[bitstorm]

I'm glad the UP vanishing bug has been recognised, and you have your UP again.

For the angle, I measured it from a print of the spectrogram as shown in my previous posting. It would be nice to get an independent measurement to check if I have it right. I think it should be OK, as the dimensions of the circle match vertically and horizontally, so it should not be distorted (I hope)

Well it's just that the black and white image does indeed show the angle as 50 degrees.

However on using a image direct from the UP audio, placing the image into photoshop, overlaying a perfect circle to ensure the scan image circle is perfect, and measuring the angle....

It came to pretty much exactly 45 degrees.

You say you did the same and got 50.19 degrees? So I'm not sure, it is possible I am mistaken then, but I thought I did check this.

While I am not asleep yet (gah) I was wondering if you have the time and/or inclination to see what the UP thinks about this canyon:

Spoiler

http://i.imgur.com/7OXBsvh.png

I am interested if there is any change in the sounds the UP makes when in orbit above this canyon, and if it sounds "happier" in this canyon compared to other points on Merope 5C. I suspect it won't make any difference, but if it does it would be an interesting data point - that canyon is pretty much where the rings and orbit conjunction location is.

only if you feel up to it though: UPs and time are precious, and this sort of data is a "nice to have".

BTW: The next conjunction will be in about 1.5 days from now - we are nearly at "full rings" today, so the "rings as a line" will be in the next day and a half or so.

I will have a look.

 

[Richardissimo]

Hey there everyone. I just found this discussion. I found a up on a planet while looking for barnacles. My screen grab for Xbox was disabled but I took a picture with my phone just in case I wanted to go back. Anyway I can go back tonight(I'm working) and get all the details and pictures.

Excellent work commander! Congratulations! we look forward to your screenshot and details of system, planet and coordinates.

 

[SocraticMammal]

Hey there everyone. I just found this discussion. I found a up on a planet while looking for barnacles. My screen grab for Xbox was disabled but I took a picture with my phone just in case I wanted to go back. Anyway I can go back tonight(I'm working) and get all the details and pictures.

Crossing fingers and toes...

 

[Allant Doran]

Excellent work commander! Congratulations! we look forward to your screenshot and details of system, planet and coordinates.

They'll get praise when the evidence is produced, not when they claim they have it.
Too many people will claim ''I have evidence but can only get it to you later'' and then never produce anything.

 

[Ozric]

Excellent work commander! Congratulations! we look forward to your screenshot and details of system, planet and coordinates.

Do we? Oh... yes... yes, we do.

 

[Menenhetet]

the first panel is decoded. the first panel is of the UP sending its signal. All 2 panes decoded, if you want a wild UP, you just have to be in Merope as explained.

I guess I'll be the only one with a wild UP today, I'll give a few out.

Message me, Mach. I've got a proposition for you.

 

[Ozric]

They'll get praise when the evidence is produced, not when they claim they have it.
Too many people will claim ''I have evidence but can only get it to you later'' and then never produce anything.

Not saying we should be skeptical from someone who's only just joined the forums and this is their first post.

 

[bitstorm]

Bloody hell.

UP lost again.

If you don't know I deployed the UP for testing at Pleione 3 yesterday and immediate crash to desktop, UP lost.

Support were able to verify and replaced.

I have just literally booted ED up, logged in, and while at Pleione 3 (not moved) thought I might as well do the test that failed yesterday.

Deployed UP, again immediate CTD, UP lost.

I am wondering if there is something odd about Pleione 3 (besides being having 6g gravity) why would it seemingly consistently CTD. (2 out of 2 attempts)

I deployed a UA and recovered it yesterday right here, did that to verify a UP wouldn't drift too much. UA ok but UP triggers a crash?

 

[Ozric]

Message me, Mach. I've got a proposition for you.

*chuckles*

 

[Xenia_K]

Hey there everyone. I just found this discussion. I found a up on a planet while looking for barnacles. My screen grab for Xbox was disabled but I took a picture with my phone just in case I wanted to go back. Anyway I can go back tonight(I'm working) and get all the details and pictures.

outstanding Cdr., congratulations, i think the whole community is biting fingernails up to the elbow for U providing details

 

[Shaewyn]

Nets recording is from merope 5c planetside. All the merope recordings have that slower rate. The other recordings do not . I bet another system will have that slower rate too.

The chirps changing in merope is interesting should be looked at more as well. Do you use visualization or go by ear?

Oh, cool, didn't know that Net's was from planetside. The caveat is that Vent's Merope deep space recording is not at the slower purr rate. Because all of his recordings have the same purr rate, and all of the other recordings have the same purr rate. I'm gonna check the Pleione 4 video now.

I do both vis and by ear, it's easy to see many of them using the spectrograph (once cleaned up and filtered) and verify by ear.

Pleione 4: 34 purrs, 10 chirp triplets for a rate of 11.3 purrs/min and 3.3 chirp triplets/min. Pleione 4 is at the faster purr rate.

Surely that's a perfect reason to suspect it is. Also that it's very important if you find another system where the chirps differ, as Bungalo intimated.

Yeah, we need more data!