UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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ilo

ilo
Davanix said:
I never said it was water. I said some sort of pool. I understand it may likely be a hologram but yet that doesnt take away the fact it resembles the glowing parts of the UA
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I never said you said it was water. If you look at the UA/UP close, (I think) the glowing parts are just using the same parallax effect of different 'plasma'-like textures to get the effect, it will be the same as the pool -SM explained they were using parallax in them-.
 
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CMDR Davanix

CMDR Davanix
ilo said:
I never said you said it was water. If you look at the UA/UP close, the glowing parts are just using the same parallax effect of different 'plasma'-like textures to get the effect, it will be the same as the pool -SM explained they were using parallax in them-.
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Yes but why have the same effect on both a Human station and an as we believe an alien unknown item?? im not bringing tinfoil into it im just stating its either intentional or silly that the same retexture is being used for two different sentient beings (if indeed the UA is sentient)
 

SpocksOddSocks

SpocksOddSocks
Popov Le Magnifique said:
Not necessarily Thargoid, maybe from the Feds/Corporations. Halsey, smelling what was going to happen to her by Hudson/Fallside ( :( ), goes on a trip to "raise support from the frontier", while taking a detour to Azaleach to have a little chat with Mahon. Maybe in order to form an alliance between the Feds and the...Alliance? The shadow president and Core Dynamics strongly disagree so they sabotage SS1, perform the good old brainwashing so she appears craAAaaZyy and have a religious cult support her to further strengthen the craaAAaaziness of her speech.

The general public thinks "this poor lady has gone nuts. Architects of creation? Get outta here. BRYAN, STOP PLAYING CQC, LUNCH IS READY!".

But now she's recovered, is back in the game and Mahon continues his shenanigans. Alliance FTW. 8)
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Had a few beers today, so not sure I've followed whatever meta-pyscholgy is going on in this post :D.

Nah, I haven't trusted the Alliance for a while, but what I had in mind was more cynicism about them becoming exactly what they claim to stand against than anything more sinister....

However, the more I hear about what lore is canon and what no longer is, I think INRA might actually have been justified in their actions, and that the Alliance -or at least it's top brass - are actually agents of the Thargoids in some way. (Edit: though MB's comments about the Alliance in recent months have been throwing more fuel on this fire)
 
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Sharratz

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So, this just happened... I drop out of SC in front of Pleiades sector RO-Q B5-0 planet #6 to do one more test on the UP and just as I position myself between the probe and Merope, a pirate NPC randomly drops into the instance without any usual prior warning you get in SC like a direct message. Demands cargo. I start thinking whether to blow him up immediately or scoop the probe back first, quickly deciding the latter is probably best and just as I open cargo hatch and move toward the UP, the sucker apparently scoops it up right in front of me. The probe literally just disappeared into thin air while he was still off to the side of the screen. I don't know if the whole thing took more than 15 seconds.

So after a minor expenditure of ammo on my part, I can proudly say I have successfully managed to trade in one brand new UP for one chemical processor and other low grade junk.

This game, sometimes...

The only useful experiment I did manage to do was compare the probe sequences between planet 7 where it was freefloating and #6. Sequence 4 was of primary interest to me so FWIW, hopefully I didn't mess it up:

Planet 7: WAIL, 4, 376, 1233.069, 82, 68.12, 136, 0.337
Planet 6: WAIL, 4, 135, 1262.428, 82, 62.447, 36545, 0.491

This pretty much disproves my thinking that the 3 floating point numbers are star system coordinates in some other reference frame - two planets inside the same system would obviously share the coordinates.

Also, curiously the binary representation for 376 and 135 is binary digit inverse, i.e. 101 111 000 vs 010 000 111.
 
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CMDR CJ Fortuna

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ShadowAviator said:
I THINK mine made the noise when I got between it and Merope 5C, but I am not sure. Also how close do you have to be before you see gravity affect the UP? I was more than 5 Mm out from 5C, but my UP was heading for the planet even after i stopped it.
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If that's true a recording at Merope 5C might be very useful.
a) All the ratios should come back as 1 which would utterly confirm the ratio theory (Although I think it's basically proven now)
b) It might give us a strong clue as to the final sequence. If those values come back as 0,0,0 or very low values then we know it's some form of co-ordinate system based in Merope.
 

Colonel Kenney

Colonel Kenney
A)

The UP's and UA's are a Thargoid detection and notification system.

An "emergency broadcast system" so to speak.

They are not looking .. they are watching ammonia planets!

Or

B)

Since they are transdimensional it is possible a separate sect of their species is trying to come through and has been looking for a good area to expand to.
 

greymalkin

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Decoding UP (forward) transmission.

I hear four distinct tones in the triplets (excluding that one... you know the one).
Three of the tones are in the upper register and one in the lower. Listening to the triplets from "Unknown Probe signal beam towards Merope 5c" (recorded in Pleiades Sector KC-U B3-1 at a distance of 35m) I get:

210 (pause) 203 300 210 (uproll) 300 000 203

Some things I've tried:

Find the notes
using a pitch pipe I have near me and my ear:
BGD (p) BDC CDD BGD (u) CDD DDD BDC

Translate to quartary
using `bc` and `ibase=4` I get the decimal numbers:
36 (p) 35 48 36 (u) 48 0 35

Then I thought, hey... we've got four quadrants on the other transmission; could these numbers somehow coordinate with those?

Correlate notes to quadrants

Using \ for 1, the lower right "vector line"
Using ( for 2, the upper left "ring line"
Using `` for 3, the upper right "orbit lines"
Using // for 4, the lower left "sector lines"

Code: 
[B][FONT=courier new]
`` (  \   
pause
`` \  //
// \  \ 
`` (  \ 
whoop!
// \  \ 
\  \  \
`` \  //[/FONT][/B]

On its own, I can't get any meaning out of this, but I think this has promise; The transmission was described as the "key" for something -- and now we have a something that happens in fours. I would like to gather other recordings of FF probes correlated with systems, the ship type looking at it, distance from the probe, whether it's been scooped yet etc. Basing the decode of quadrant to meaning in a single event is pretty sketchy analysis.
 

Allant Doran

Allant Doran
Colonel Kenney said:
Since they are transdimensional it is possible a separate sect of their species is trying to come through and has been looking for a good area to expand to.
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Last I heard things like them being transdimensional is just a rumour isn't it?

I know they're 'likely' intergalactic but even that isn't confirmed as far as I know.
 

id3nt1ty

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Urgh, I want to investigate the original Unknown Probe transmission as the demodulation "key" in a SOQPSK-TG modulation scheme (which uses ternary symbols) for the transmission you can hear if you are between the Unknown Probe and Merope when you honk it. But I'm soothing a crying three-month old so I'm typing this with one thumb in the hopes that someone else can investigate this in the mean time.

CMDR Three

PS Other clues, the original pictogram is a constellation diagram, and the four ternary "codes" in the corners are the symbols representing each phase. Phase-shifting Key modulation!
 

Arguendo

Volunteer Moderator
Arguendo
Sharratz said:
The only useful experiment I did manage to do was compare the probe sequences between planet 8 where it was freefloating and #7. Sequence 4 was of primary interest to me so FWIW, hopefully I didn't mess it up:

Planet 8: WAIL, 4, 376, 1233.069, 82, 68.12, 136, 0.337
Planet 7: WAIL, 4, 135, 1262.428, 82, 62.447, 36545, 0.491

This pretty much disproves my thinking that the 3 floating point numbers are star system coordinates in some other reference frame - two planets inside the same system would obviously share the coordinates.
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What are the differences between the two planets in the "planet info pane" on the left panel in the system map? Could be related to the materials, atmosphere (which makes sense to be separated as Merope 5c doesn't have one), etc.
 

Gombari Noah

Gombari Noah
Sharratz said:
So, this just happened... I drop out of SC in front of Pleiades sector RO-Q B5-0 planet #6 to do one more test on the UP and just as I position myself between the probe and Merope, a pirate NPC randomly drops into the instance without any usual prior warning you get in SC like a direct message. Demands cargo. I start thinking whether to blow him up immediately or scoop the probe back first, quickly deciding the latter is probably best and just as I open cargo hatch and move toward the UP, the sucker apparently scoops it up right in front of me. The probe literally just disappeared into thin air while he was still off to the side of the screen. I don't know if the whole thing took more than 15 seconds.

So after a minor expenditure of ammo on my part, I can proudly say I have successfully managed to trade in one brand new UP for one chemical processor and other low grade junk.

This game, sometimes...

The only useful experiment I did manage to do was compare the probe sequences between planet 7 where it was freefloating and #6. Sequence 4 was of primary interest to me so FWIW, hopefully I didn't mess it up:

Planet 7: WAIL, 4, 376, 1233.069, 82, 68.12, 136, 0.337
Planet 6: WAIL, 4, 135, 1262.428, 82, 62.447, 36545, 0.491

This pretty much disproves my thinking that the 3 floating point numbers are star system coordinates in some other reference frame - two planets inside the same system would obviously share the coordinates.

Also, curiously the binary representation for 376 and 135 is binary digit inverse, i.e. 101 111 000 vs 010 000 111.
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Well that blows my theory (co-ordinates) too. Can we have the planetary detail to go with these - from the second tab of the system map?
 

Tigirius

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I scooped up a UP. Can deliver it who need it. Spawns in PLEIADES SECTOR KC-U B3-1 8 after 10 minutes in 15Mm distance with 30 km/s.
Checked on the way following Systems without success (means not much)
HIP 17552 4
HIP 17837 A 5
PLEIADES SECTOR IH-V C2-6 A 2
 
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MadDogMurdock

MadDogMurdock
I'm getting the sinking feelng that this is the like old Barnacle problem all over again.
You can be in exactly the right place and the UPs don't spawn.

RNG rareness isn't cool FD, I thought you'd figured that out with the mission changes in 2.1!
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Muetdhiver said:
Quick update :

#1 for Temperature
#2 for Gravity
#3 for Radius

are correct.

I have a partial recording from Pleiades Sector RO-Q B5-0 7
Only missing the first sequence of the five. Here is the grit of it :

Binary:
wail 001 X 001 001 100 # 001 111 101
wail 010 X 101 100 111 001 # 111 110 100
wail 011 X 110 001 101 111 # 111 110 100

Octal:
wail 1 X 114 # 175
wail 2 X 5471 # 764
wail 3 X 6157 # 764

Decimal:

wail 1 X 76 # 125
wail 2 X 2873 # 500
wail 3 X 3183 # 500

Ratios :

wail 1 X 0.608
wail 2 X 5.746
wail 3 X 6.366

Mult :
wail 1 (T) 0.608 * 297 = 181 vs 180
wail 2 (g) 5.746 * 0.18 = 1.03 vs 1.05
wail 3 (R) 6.366 * 1478 = 9409 vs 9407

As a bonus, binary for wail 4 :

wail 100 X
010 000 111 // 100 101 101 000 010 101 101 # 001 111 101 000
001 010 010 // 011 010 100 111 # 011 001
010 001 000 // 101 010 001 # 001 111 101 000

File : https://www.dropbox.com/s/wk3blp2pkb155q0/UP_Audio_PS_RO-Q_B5-0_7.mp3?dl=0
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I'm out of rep, but I would say that the first three numbers are cut in stone by now.

Now we have to crack open the last part. I'll give it a go tomorrow.
 
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