Also I would like to point out that FD would benefit little to hype new content, when most of the gaming world aren't even aware about Horizons content.
Gamescom 2016: am I the only one disappointed?
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I expected Season 3, and information about 2.3 and 2.4. I got information about 2.2.
I am not overwhelmed by those informations. Having in mind that 2.1 was slightly delayed and 2.2 is scheduled for october, they may simply have encountered a couple of challenges during the development process. Who knows.
And a good studio does not announce things that are not fully ready for the public. I know these guys are working hard and have a passion for the game. My opinion: Let them do their work - there´s nothing we can do, except supporting those guys. With cookies
I am not overwhelmed by those informations. Having in mind that 2.1 was slightly delayed and 2.2 is scheduled for october, they may simply have encountered a couple of challenges during the development process. Who knows.
And a good studio does not announce things that are not fully ready for the public. I know these guys are working hard and have a passion for the game. My opinion: Let them do their work - there´s nothing we can do, except supporting those guys. With cookies
Not really, no. Though I'd hoped for a new season in December 2016, I was becoming less certain of that possibility with every passing month. That said, 2.1 & 2.2 looks like it's "cramming" in more than twice as much additional content as 1.1 & 1.2 did.....so I'm becoming less distressed about the season going longer than a year.
What was presented has definitely got me *very* excited about the new levels of variation that we can expect to see. It increasingly looks like no two systems will be exactly alike, & it looks like explorers are getting a lot more to do now.....which is *excellent*!!!
What was presented has definitely got me *very* excited about the new levels of variation that we can expect to see. It increasingly looks like no two systems will be exactly alike, & it looks like explorers are getting a lot more to do now.....which is *excellent*!!!
As a cynic I thought they did pretty good, looking forward to new planetary features, station interiors and other QOL improvements, not too fussed about the passenger mission stuff or the Beluga to be honest. Day 3 and 4 were a bit lame but it was fun to watch the developing bromance between Ed and Adam very touchy feely.
Marketing and advertising is extremely easy, as long as you lie out of your butt and don't bother to back it up at delivery. Look at previous SC commercials.
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I enjoy watching DB's videos. He is very passionate about his game and the science behind it. Unfortunately, the fourth video was very telling. He stammered a lot and the video had to be repeatedly spliced because he kept repeating himself. He basically had nothing to say. I felt embarrassed for him watching it as opposed to generally enjoying his little talks. Something has changed, development has slowed down and info is down to a dribble. The usual excuse makers will do their thing but most of us can see that something has changed. Gamescom to me, is not the place to limit yourself to the reveal of a patch which is just a small part of an entire expansion. As good as 2.2 looks it didn't blow any faces off and it won't have copies of Horizons flying off the shelves. I personally don't believe it has sold well as a whole and that has slowed this years development. This isn't a doomsday post. They aren't going anywhere, but development appears to have greatly slowed down.
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They seem to have done a good job in getting you talking about their game.
But almost no one in outside world knows about it. Even at this time and age. Even gaming journalists and media.
It's not exactly FD fault. They are medium sized UK company with few people doing PR. Still I would like to know how to make it better.
Becouse i love that game. I bought it as a gift to my brother, and i allways saing about elite. But almost no one knows about elite dangerous.
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How do you come to that conclusion? Because FD just using the same information policy they used the last years?
Seriously they always are rather quite on stuff, until they are confident in what they got and ready to keep for a release. That stuff was everything in 2.2 they were confident to tell us.
We had the same for 2.1 and every update before that. Only informations regarding coming update, and rather tide lipped beyong that if it isnt a headline feature.
Its hilarious how people cry because of a 3 month delay of 2.1...the only real "big" delay we had so far in EDs development and its already doom and gloom...ask SC how many delays they had...ask NMS how many delays they had..ect.
Its just ridicilious concluding ED is in a "bad place" because of that...FD is not a development studio that exist only since ED...
There was more advertisement of paintjobs than anything else spoken about in those streams.
The real indication of where FD is at will be known very soon.
Christams is now looming and depending on what they have planned for that period will be very telling. It may well be that we are already looking at the Christmas release for ED. I have already predicted this and the Autumn October release for 2.2. I still firmly believe Horizons has been shifted to a two year project.
If Christmas does not produce a 2.3 or at least pre-orders for 3.0 then I think it is fair to say that something is wrong.
Simply based on the fact that Christmas is such an important part of any financial plan. I find it hard to believe FD did not work that into their original release window and to see them missing the oppertunity to expolit that only shows how off course they really are.
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To me many features they showed looked like they have a lot of cool stuff ready, but they are holding them back for 2.2 and not releasing when feature is ready. They Should do more smaller releases and release features more often but less at once and not pile a lot of stuff to one release.
2.2 will sell lot of Horizon copies, people already saying it is finally worth to getting it.
FD is restraining themselves of hyping next updates because they aren't ready to speak about them. Because every time they do, people take awfully lot out of context.
It seems they decided at the beginning of the year they want to make it right and pack 2.1 and 2.2 releases with PvE content so people feel more enganged with universe. People have always said 'don't release new content, flesh out existing gameplay'. FD have complied. I think it shows they are listening and tweak development according to that.
Also it is highly possible they wanted to show something really awesome with a risk being misinterpreted in a case if reception towards NMS would be off the roof. It didn't. So they dialed back so they can hype new content next time.
Understand this - FD PR have very few options. They don't have money or friends to boost their sales trough sky high promises similar CIG does. They are playing their cards carefully as they can. Yes, they could show 2.3. They didn't. They want to show it few months later, to rekindle our beliefs. If they showed everything at once, it would overshadow work done on 2.2.
PR is tricky thing. Too much - and it negates work done. Too little - and people saying they are disappointed. FD really can't win this - besides keep working and being honest.
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They are selling Planet Coaster this fall. Steam pre-orders will come this week. They don't need ED to keep them going at this point, they can take their time. Also insider info says stop with knee jerking. They just packed extra and took extra time with releases. Very very happy about that.
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So much this. They want to deliver on Season 2. They want to sell Season 2. Why they would show Season 3 without even having upgrade path/how much it will cost/etc? Doesn't make sense.
Go here https://forums.frontier.co.uk/forumdisplay.php/167-Dev-Updates
Look back. Every week they gave us some information or talked about some existing stuff that was already in game. Like more info about power play mechanics or bgs. They talked what they aim for in next small patch etc. Most information about the future in one easy place. Now you see devs commenting on some random discussion thread or one of the mega thread, worst case they comment coming changes on reddit and most people will never see those comments. Dev update was nice and easy way to stay on track. And they usually didn't tell or announce future contend there, they just told what was going on.
The Gamescom demonstration was great during day 1, 2 and 3 (except instant ship teleportation). Day 4 was mostly a recap.
It lacked that 1 huge thing that blows away the competition.... Last year we had Horizons and landing on lifeless, full-scale moons, planets. This year we don't have anything mind-blowing.
The other big upcoming space sim Star Citizen overshadowed Elite Dangerous again and stole the show at Gamescom.
I'm disappointed that there was nothing mind blowing. I thought we would see a preview of some amazing things to come for Elite Dangerous (space-legs, atmospheric planets).
It lacked that 1 huge thing that blows away the competition.... Last year we had Horizons and landing on lifeless, full-scale moons, planets. This year we don't have anything mind-blowing.
The other big upcoming space sim Star Citizen overshadowed Elite Dangerous again and stole the show at Gamescom.
I'm disappointed that there was nothing mind blowing. I thought we would see a preview of some amazing things to come for Elite Dangerous (space-legs, atmospheric planets).
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.. ha, this is not enough quoted yet! Something what I agree fully and can't say better, +rep given.
Well, dev updates and blogs are always get cast aside if crunch comes in. Said that, I want dev updates to come back too. But it seems there are some things against them a) people taking stuff for granted b) people going overboard with analyzing what has been said c) it takes quite a time to produce such posts.
SC are great at marketing like NMS was...question when we can play SC ? In 2020 ?!
Even 2.2 is not great, but I am quite sure that we will get promised futures in October...
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