Enough with the "3D printing"

Sysmon

Sysmon
3D printing at this level suggested is fine in 1000 years, not really challenging beliefs more than, say, hyperspace jumps. If the technology is readily available and relatively cheap, however, it will be as Mephane says and lead to a society radically different from what Elite Dangerous is depicting.

For one, we wouldn't fly from system to system, but just "teleport" by respawning at our destination, probably rebuilt from a vat of bio waste.

As it is, reprinting of us and our ships are at the moment in the game just available upon death, and only some of our possessions can be remade.

If 3D printing becomes a thing in the game, and is used to explain instant transfer of ship and the ability to manufacture stuff from materials, the system needs to be made internally consistent. If the current universe is to be kept as is, the process needs to be made expensive and somewhat exclusive. And it should have impact on how we respawn as well. Maybe only rich high-tech systems and advanced space ports can host the technology to print on a large scale. They should be our only available spawn-points then after destruction.

Onboard 3D printers might still be able to build simple items such as certain types of ammo etc.

Overall, yes, the system needs a bit of ironing out before 2.2 hits the fan.

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Zambrick

Zambrick
Please dont bring Lore into this. Only a few of those books are considered Cannon the rest of the "Lore" can be made up on the fly. We have some very definitive events that have taken place in the past 500 years of the game universe. Other than that we know nothing other than that humans are killing colonizing genocidal plague on the Galaxy.

The only real definitive story that has taken place in game in the story line was in Frontiers Encounters and I think we are about to revisit that plot line soon.

We also already have various fabrication devices on board. We can synthesis ammo and fuel for our SRVs. Who is to say that the fighters are just disassembled flat pieces of metal and the fabrication unit literally puts them together and only prints non metallic portions like interiors and cockpits and chips.

Mr Clarke said "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." and this game takes place over 1000 years from now.

We have smart phones that fit in your pocket that are 100 times more powerful than the full room/building sized computers of 40 years ago. Who is to say what we will be capable of.
 
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vrseven

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Zambrick said:
Please dont bring Lore into this.
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Whatcha gonna do about it????
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Bacalao

Bacalao
Lol, THIS is what you think makes the 'logic' of the EDverse fall apart? THIS?! 3D Printing? You must not have been paying attention very much. I do not like the idea of printing ships or anything, I don't even want them assembled, I just want them to be like SRVs and tough enough that 1 or 2 are worth having. But this little thing, this is not the straw that broke the camel's back, no, that camel was flattened to the thickness of a shadow a long, long time ago.
 

Weps

Weps
I hacked into Sandro Sammarco's computer and found this exclusive previously unseen cinematic video which they had planned to show at Gamescom but had no time for. It's a cinematic video depicting what happens inside a Type-9 when a new fighter is being assembled:

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PS: I also found some angry e-mails from Braben timestamped today, which indicate that ship transfer will in fact not be instantaneous.
 

lefty1117

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Yep I think after Wings came out, any argument based on Lore really became a moot point - gameplay will trump lore in every case. there was supposed to be no such thing as instant comms, which is why trade markets were local and not galaxy-wide, which is then why people had to discover local pricing at each system, and why some systems in the bubble were "unexplored". As soon as wings and wing chat came out, all that stuff went out the window.
 

Lunchmunny

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I feel like there would be far less        g out over this if they would have simply said that a hangar bay is effectively a flat packed manufacturing module, that stores enough parts for X number of fighters. These sperglords wouldn't have even blinked an eye. The problem is specifically grounded in the type of language used. The funniest part, is like the poster above me said... THIS??? This is what is making you cry "mah immersion!" Mind blown....
 

Zambrick

Zambrick
I dont know what you expected. Perhaps we should hearken back to Zork and keep this strictly text based adventure.
 

DaggerSnake

DaggerSnake
I think applying a 2016 concept of 3D printing to the year 3300 is Like comparing a first gramophone player to a modern blur-ray. Auto-fabrication and creation of anything will most likely be common place. I don't think it's a wierd concept. Just needs to be a little more refined with the way it's described. It's not creating matter from energy like a star trek replicator. You buy the resources and materials.
 
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cheesenbiscuits

cheesenbiscuits
DaggerSnake said:
I think applying a 2016 concept of 3D printing to the year 3300 is Like comparing a first gramophone player to a modern blur-ray. Auto-fabrication and creation of anything will most likely be common place. I don't think it's a wierd concept. Just needs to be a little more refined with the way it's described. It's not creating matter from energy like a star trek replicator. You buy the resources and materials.
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Quick post that on galnet and lets be rid of this
 

Jools

Jools
I completely agree, and have said it in a couple of threads already

when we can quickly and cheaply 3d print ships the whole economy makes no sense, and the whole idea that we pilots are the lucky 1% of the population cannot hold under those circumstances either
 

[DOOK] Droogie

[DOOK] Droogie
The bay stores ships in pieces to save room and assembles them for deployment. Seems simple enough

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vrseven said:
Interesting, now that I can see it visually, the mountain does seem to be bigger than the mole hill. But, can this be applied to every mole hill and mountain. I would think not.
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If not, there's a mole I never want to meet.
 

Lucius-Darcia

Lucius-Darcia
Mephane said:
Let us collectively assume fighter bays just put preassembled pieces together. Let's assume that ship transfer being instant (unless FD change their minds - please do) is just an out-of-character convenience thing just like refueling and loading cargo is instant, and not an actual in-character element.

And then if FD include anywhere the concept of 3D printing around the fighter bays, let us demand they change that to preassembled pieces.

Because if we go down this route and accept that in the Elite universe a you can actually 3D print entire spaceships in situ and within just a few minutes, everything falls apart: starting with how trading of anything but the most fundamental raw materials would be a waste of time and then everything would unravel where little remains that makes any sense at all.

(For the record, I am not says this level of 3D printing is not possible in 1000 years, I am saying if it is, civilization would be nothing at all like the one depicted in ED.)
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What dou you think where all this pirate ships come.from? :D
 
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