Mu77ley
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You're not following the point. It's irrelevant what it's rendered as in Supercruise, because it's already behind you before you can even see it move.
Please FD make the transitions between SC and normal more like Star Citizen.
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You're not following the point. It's irrelevant what it's rendered as in Supercruise, because it's already behind you before you can even see it move.
Ian Phillips
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This is no longer about the transitions from superCruise, but has turned into yet another Star Citizen discussion thread.
Please go over to the dedicated thread for that discussion: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/259596-The-Star-Citizen-Thread-v5
Please go over to the dedicated thread for that discussion: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/259596-The-Star-Citizen-Thread-v5
Right, so supercruise transition:
Can we all agree that there's a lot of room for improvement? I also agree with people saying that ED kinda sorta left this the way it is because they thought, eh, it's good enough.
So another game showing what appears to be a really seamless transition, even if maybe perhaps that demonstration comes with several big asterisks? Hey, if this makes FD reevaluate whether or not the current implementation is good enough, then TWO THUMBS UP from me!
Can we all agree that there's a lot of room for improvement? I also agree with people saying that ED kinda sorta left this the way it is because they thought, eh, it's good enough.
So another game showing what appears to be a really seamless transition, even if maybe perhaps that demonstration comes with several big asterisks? Hey, if this makes FD reevaluate whether or not the current implementation is good enough, then TWO THUMBS UP from me!
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All I'd like with Hyperspace is the HUD to still function. I think they should remove any delays in SC dropout to seamless whatever it may take.
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Indeed. As I said earlier, the minimum speed in supercruise is 30km/s. Considering how big stations are, in some situations that gives you a window of several seconds during which you should be able to see the station in supercruise.
And before anyone tries and deny that:
[video=youtube_share;soBkDgsmGPU]https://youtu.be/soBkDgsmGPU[/video]
Yes, this is similar to what I meant in my thread: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...-annoying-frame-when-switching-to-supercruise
They should it make smooth, for a better immersion.
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So far Cobra engine seems to be on par with CryEngine, or even better. Could you make SC with Cobra engine? Heck yeah. Could you make ED with CryEngine? Most likely not at this point.
As for style and visual realism - FD works from top down, and SC works slowly from bottom up. First alphas had very blocked out FD ships but nailed flight system. Then they added more details and with each release we got more details on our ships, more detailed shadows, damage visuals, etc. etc. Way FD works allows to narrow down gameplay while keeping overreaching system fundamentally sound. SC might have their demo now, but turn into MMO will take incredible lot of time.
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Yeah, I think SC fanbase are just very loud. That's why it sometimes compare to cult - which is unfortunate I think they are just overhyped and excitedIt's like Madonna - whatever you will go in a world, you will get full stadiums of screaming people and they are most certainly not Americans
Well no, regarding Madonna they are most likely drunkSo far Cobra engine seems to be on par with CryEngine, or even better. Could you make SC with Cobra engine? Heck yeah. Could you make ED with CryEngine? Most likely not at this point.
As for style and visual realism - FD works from top down, and SC works slowly from bottom up. First alphas had very blocked out FD ships but nailed flight system. Then they added more details and with each release we got more details on our ships, more detailed shadows, damage visuals, etc. etc. Way FD works allows to narrow down gameplay while keeping overreaching system fundamentally sound. SC might have their demo now, but turn into MMO will take incredible lot of time.
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Yeah, I think SC fanbase are just very loud. That's why it sometimes compare to cult - which is unfortunate I think they are just overhyped and excited
What you say has been proven here many times already but certain people insist on spreading lies anyway and believing their version of reality.
It was a heavily scripted and prepared portion of a yet to be finished game. Usually when developers show off gameplay, they've created that one specific portion. They probably worked for weeks and months to put that together. If it were more than that, we'd all be playing it already.
Also, let's see how the transitions work in the final game.
Also, let's see how the transitions work in the final game.
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In 2013 E D make a short trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Cx2bX7_yt0
This is how I am still hoping jumping will be like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Cx2bX7_yt0
This is how I am still hoping jumping will be like.
I don`t know.. Elite is one of the worst running games on my system... yes it averages 60 fps but it has the most hickups, pop-ins, random framedrops, stuttering of any game i own and play... and it does not really matter if i play it on my 980machine or on my old 7870. The game runs more or less the same (60 FPS with random all the time)
I think the engine is pretty bad and on its knees already. It is very dated, has dated looking shaders and materials, very low poly assets, pretty poor lighting, low res shadows, low res textures all around, streaming sucks badly, textures are often wrapped poorly around planets creating visible artifacts,
I can live with a bit lower graphics though...
but the lack of seamlessness is unacceptable for me
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Yeah most of the trailers for Elite Dangerous are misleading and clearly fabricated, they show you the fast paced combat but it is not like that at all, there are many things breaking immersion in this game like the loading screen when entering a planet's atmosphere because sometimes you are stuck in that loading screen, now if they do it like in SC where you can enter a planet's atmosphere the same way they did then that would be awesome.
What's that?
Most of the pre-rendered trailers are fabricated!?
Most of the pre-rendered trailers are fabricated!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwvjElmFCfE
Does the combat look and feel like that in any shape or form?...
The whole transition between supercruise and normal must be smooth. No ship freezing while an instance is loading! That is immersion breaking. Same with traveling from space to a planet surface. It needs to be completely smooth and seamless.
Do whatever trickery you have to make it appear smooth as butter Frontier.
Do whatever trickery you have to make it appear smooth as butter Frontier.
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No...
I'm not 100% sure that is technically possible in a networked instance-based environment. There will always be a bit lag. You see, the entire planet you see is generated based on LOD since there is no way that thing could possibly fit in the system- memory at once. NMS, SC and ED tries to hides that transition.
Since I often play solo I'm not bothered that much (lag is low).
However it might be possible if the planet was completely featureless like a ball, but how fun would that be?
I don`t really care
I was promissed an offline game
I did not get it
I was then told that always online will have no influence on my game play whatsoever
It was obviously a lie (I never got fooled though)
I had seamless planetary landings on a 7 MHZ processor in 1993... with cities, volumetric clouds, mountains, bezier surfaces. I want my seamless sirocco back!
Its a pity we can`t clone some more young Davids...
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