A cynical but astute assessment.
The Galaxy - Is its size now considered to be a barrier to gameplay by the Developers?
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A cynical but astute assessment.
It's very prettySince I'm Dutch you just have to show me a hill to go: oooooh!
:O well there's a surprise for me.
Always nice to see a fellow countryman but I had you pegged as one of the most British guys around here. Well, you know what they say about assumptions...
I don't think we can assume anything about size of people having issues. However, there's lot of good feedback there and there's good indication that there are some actually quite big angles FD haven't thought about. It happens. FD have a lot on their plate and they can't do everything justice. They have walked back on features before. Not sure how it will go this time, but I am actually grateful that many people communicate this issue with amazingly peaceful fashion. I was afraid it will go down as us vs. them, but now it seems - hopefully - more like proper discussion taking place.
If I am not that hot on is it instant or not (and yes, I think some of consequences are a bit of hyperbole in my personal opinion), doesn't mean I don't care. I want to see it done this right - being if it's placeholdery, don't do anything that you can't walk away from so easily, if it's done and done, then I prefer delay, because we wanted modules storage and if rushing in transfer is not required, I am ready to wait for proper inclusion.
*waves*
No, that's not the problem I have. In fact I don't really have a problem with that (other than supercruise which ship transfer doesn't touch), I have a problem sitting in a star port in my Corvette knowing if I had my Python I could take that juicy outpost cargo hauling mission, ship transfer fixes that, and it happens A LOT.
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Again, as evidenced by your very narrow view of the topic and apparent inability to see anything outside of it, I know it's not your pet problem, but it's a problem that exists for me, and since I don't consider myself special, probably some others as well (though problem isn't really the right word, I just can't access the content I'd like to).
And that's where I believe a look at military flight sims comes in. If I'm trying to evade people looking for me I use stealth. I fly slowly, move quickly only in short bursts, I don't use active sensors, I fly round areas of high defenses (E: D could do with a variety of other stations/ships in system, perhaps with FSD drive suppressors for example), I evade patrols, I use shielded cargo compartments resistant so scans. If I'm looking for trouble, I've got good scanners and a decent FSD drive to travel quickly for interceptions. I patrol areas where the bad people I'm after are likely to be.
I do believe a lot could be done with supercruise gameplay - of course whether there is ever actually any development budget for such expansions is the question.
If anyone touches my precious (few) Exquisite Focus Crystals I will go on an ingame rampage.
Yes I find that when other people agree with my opinion they suddenly make up the majority as well and we're all united around a campfire singing songs.
You should have used a resistor instead of a coil, then pasted a pic of a borg into the bottom right corner. You know, like
resistance is futile
Yup. All of those are failings in the game. But even if you've got 1 wrong, 2 wrongs or 30 wrongs, adding another wrong still doesn't make a right.
I guess...
But its hard not to let something that dumbs down the game get in your way
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Seems to be simply another symptom of MMOification.
If they put a cooldown on it, that confirms it for me.
Time as a limiting factor would cater to the simulation.
Fly a flag, what will it be?
Like SCBs, HRPs and the like?
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Not really. As Michael explained - and you can buy or sell it - they didn't plan to do ship transfer at this point but much much later. However we wanted module storage and they thought they can add some QoL things along the way - including ship transfer. Their intentions were actually helping the game. Issue is they seem didn't thought fully trough consequences for lore and potential small yet significant balance issues. It was a quick and dirty because they didn't have money and time planned for it...that means if they would have gone 'full sim' route, it would take longer (2.3 or even 3.0) and most likely they would have to swap out some other feature for delay (as dev time for each year is limited). And yes, of course they want to keep costs within budget. That's how you actually extend costs so you can make such game work.
Those are spurious arguments. Firstly, most established players have little need for extra cash - often missions are more important for reputation, materials or certain commodities/bonuses.
Secondly, re-rolling the mission board has consequences - it takes time and there's no guarantee that you'll get what you want anyway. Considering that a lot of people here would be happy with ship transfers if they took time, then this point is a particularly weak argument.
Thirdly, just because you've come up with a list of things that don't have consequences doesn't mean there aren't any. If you become wanted in a system security will attack you, if you go into a HazRes in a T9 stuffed with gold you will lose your ship and your cargo. Ship choice was always a core decision in Elite: Dangerous and always had consequences (and in Frontier/First Encounters). You've always had the decisions between balancing range, combat capabilities, survivability and cargo capacity. Instant ship transfer significantly reduces those consequences because at worst you are only having to make one leg of your journey in a restricted ship, and in some cases (such as a specific combat event in a system) you don't have to travel in your combat ship at all.
The bugs I'm not so worried about. It's the fundamental power creep and "what were they thinking" features that make me want to uninstall
Sandra said there are too many allready in lave radio... I do wonder what he means
Death is nearly free , you can be a killer or a savior and nothing happens...
I hope they add some at some point.
Because the game has a lot of depth (well... transfer might remove a lot of it) but due to lack of consequences continues many will never notice the depth.
I'd be happier with the 'mega-freighter with instant drive, created by a breakthrough in large-scale hyperdrives' idea - 'cus then someone could do a nice Lynx Bulk Carrier model to park outside stations.
Of course, then we could have loads of CGs to retrofit these new drives to existing Farraguts and Majestics. Might make human fleets a bit more powerful in the upcoming war too.
- 810 votes : 75% in favour of a delay - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/282931-Should-ship-transfers-have-a-time-delay-or-not
- Multichoice vote : 75% want a delay (when looking at the votes for no delay / small / large / actual) - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...-Instant-Ship-and-Module-Transport-Yay-or-Nay
- Multiple polls & threads all about the same subject but looking at it from different angles trying to find an "alternative"
I would say this forum in-general is not best pleased with the decision by FD.