I totally agree, but why should it be just the combat pilots that get the advantage of magic teleportation? Why shouldn't traders also receive some of wizard love that's going around?
The Galaxy - Is its size now considered to be a barrier to gameplay by the Developers?
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I totally agree, but why should it be just the combat pilots that get the advantage of magic teleportation? Why shouldn't traders also receive some of wizard love that's going around?
Thread is accelerating very quickly. By the time I've read a page two more have appeared.... I've not read it all.
One assumes this transfer thing is optional? If one has an issue with it - dont use it.
One assumes this transfer thing is optional? If one has an issue with it - dont use it.
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The ability to instantly change ships anywhere will probably mean that anyone scouting for targets will not require to be doing so in the ship that they intend to interdict them with - as there is no requirement to travel any distance to fetch the weapon of choice for interacting with their chosen target - just dock, switch and go.
Seeing a Type-6 in SC ahead heading for a station would not normally concern most players - the knowledge that that Type-6 pilot can immediately switch to their interdictor and make a bee-line for the following player changes things a bit - as there was probably only a small chance of the attacking player having that asset in that station previously - now any asset will be immediately available in any station (with suitably sized pads).
Waiting outside an outpost for the Type-6 to come out again might get a bit twitchy - as it may not be a Type-6 that emerges from the hangar but something altogether more combat capable....
Since around 1.2 every update to the game has made credits easier and easier to come by and keep to the point where it's no longer a factor for a lot of people (although we wont mention exploration). Is this the beginning of a shift in the other direction at last?
Reread my comment, it the fact you only have to use type 9s in one direction with this feature now that will give a distinct advantage to people in CGs who will want to exploit it.
I'm starting to think that the only way to balance this and avoid players just using this to exploit trade etc wildly + sell all their FSDs except for one suped up ship is to price it so outrageously as to be near useless.
And then we are back to sqare one, with a useless feature...
Only other way is to let you do max X transfers per day, and i suspect that won't go over well either.
And then we are back to sqare one, with a useless feature...
Only other way is to let you do max X transfers per day, and i suspect that won't go over well either.
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This is a great example of how one attempt to change the player experience for the better will have so many undesirable consequences.
I'm aware. But frankly, the cost will be low to make this an accessible QoL improvement as opposed to 'a barrier to gameplay'.
Might as well not bother and just have a single ship storage directly accessible from all Shipyards for free.
Same effect, next to zero coding required.
There are conflict zones all over the place. If you are in your T9 you would likely be hauling something so the point is moot anyhow as you'd be having to sell your cargo to switch ships and besides, who the hell wanders around in a T9? You can look and find a CZ near your ship, within a couple of jumps at most. They are all over the place. That was a terrible, terrible example of why instant is a worthy trade off to (immersion, balance, gameplay). Uhg!
Except as other players and myself have explain, instant teleportation affects everyone because people will have to use it to remain competitive in areas of the game such as CGs and Powerplay.
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The result is exactly the same and the goal here is to 'remove barriers to gameplay', a punitive cost is just as much of a barrier as a timed wait.
Also with the added benefit of not requiring any new code at all, pretty much just the removal of the Storage location check, and a relabelling of that tab.
No it doesn't.
1: You've got to switch ships twice at each station now.
2: You've got to pay for a transfer at every station now.
3: You've still got to fly back from the CG station to the loading station.
4: You can, according to what I've seen so far, only have your ship transported TO you. Not ahead of you.
Exploits give you advantages over other players. To have an advantage implies that you have better control of the outcome of any given situation. Frontier designed this game so that no player can ever have control over another player. Influence, yes, but you will never control what another player can or cannot do in this game.
Relying on "exploit" and "abuse" focused emotional arguments is absurd.
I wonder why we get paid to move cargo around, then? It would seem that there s no need for traders to exist!
LOL this! There's a ton of things that don't make sense and the list is only increasing. Engineer's are the only one's that can make mods that are so tricky they can never make the same mod twice yet your insurance company has an infinite stock of them. Communication is somehow hampered by systems as we can't get info on them (does anyone really care this info is hidden anyway) but we can insta transport ships anywhere!
DB is going for real science underneath - so the bread is real he's just smearing it with a cheap butter immitation spread.
This game is onoly going in one direction - the one of bad decisions and it drastically needs a reversal or just put the breaks on!! Stop making new things, you're messing it up! Go back to all the stuff that needs braodening and fixing. That way you can't do anymore harm just make the existing stuff better....I hope.
On the faction side of the house:
The faction I support has all of its systems within a 60ly range. Even in an FDL I'm not exactly hamstrung to support them. I don't see how instantaneous transfers would have any effect on that at all, especially given that you've got to get to the system in question first and only then bring the other ship(s) to you. That almost seems like it would take more time or shave off nothing more than a few minutes.
On powerplay:
That I could see, given the relative size of PP bubbles, though I fear I don't understand enough about how it works to really comment more.
I cant wait to transfer ships
There is a lot more to this discussion then "Realism".... Read the actual arguments on how it affect everything from balance to ship-load out choices.
Quite - a perfect example of ship trivialisation. It's the first thing I thought of and mentioned quite some pages back so it's good to see I am not alone
The new meta - warships with 0.1 LY jump ranges that magic their way across the galaxy.
*chuckles and munches more popcorn*
Any distance limit is effectively pointless as it becomes effectively the same barrier that short jumps are now.
So if the limit is 100LY and you want to move it 200LY, then you have to do a partial fetch (get within 100LY), summon the ship, fast jump to destination, summon again.
The only effect of this would be default storage locations near the center of the bubble.
The only practical difference that a distance limit would have is to rule out transfer to Jaques.
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