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UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn
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Wait a second! Can we have a recap on why the time for clue 6 is 2100?
Just finishing up some business and will then head to Apademak. Even if it isn't until 21:00 tomorrow I can stay in-system. I won't be doing anything else on Elite between now and then.
My suspicion is that we've joined a few dots incorrectly here.
I have a feeling that meeting Kohl at Cail at 10:00 may provide more info. After all Kohl was at the 'incident'.
Kohl might tell us when to meet Granger at Adepamak.
And Granger will tell us where to meet Dillon at 21:00.
I have a feeling that meeting Kohl at Cail at 10:00 may provide more info. After all Kohl was at the 'incident'.
Kohl might tell us when to meet Granger at Adepamak.
And Granger will tell us where to meet Dillon at 21:00.
ok, you can all help with this. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is...
go here: http://www.mygeocachingprofile.com/codebreaker.vigenerecipher.aspx
enter this into the top box: LFGXVGV POH QTZGN JDLRPGX VHKXI DBCF HKICOL ZH HIRXXTTB TA
In the box labelled "key", enter: TRUTH
yeah, truth is the key. truth will set ye free etc.
BUT.. that isn't the whole key. the key repeats as you go through the message, so at "someone" and "apademak" it decodes, but the other bits it doesn't. So TRUTH isn't the whole key. We need to know what is.
I've tried TRUTHSEEKER, TRUTHISOUTTHERE, TRUTHATLAST and about 50 other combos. none of them work. So.. um...
aaaanyhoo, this message will self-destruct in 30 seconds... beep... beep
Exelent breacktrough!!!!! you got some rep
My mistake on the FP. The time is missing from message 6. We don't know if is intended or a mistake.
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reasonable...
well, it could also be the rune Algiz. Algiz is a system near Achenar. Closer to Taurus than Corvus is. Or it could be corvus. I have no idea. I've been up almost 22 hours working out codes, I don't have enough brain left to start on another
heheI have a feeling it's deliberate because the info we have is insufficient.
The only guy we know everything about is Kohl.
I plan to see what he has to say in Cail at 10:00.
You'll find me there
Am I Kohl?
Do you have a red T9?
Agreed that's why earlier I said it could very well be a case of cascading information where one refines the other, one may provide a time or an exact location. Given how specific the locations have been for the UP's I don't feel we can just count on stumbling onto these meetings.
no you are an alienYou'll find me there
Am I Kohl?
well, it could also be the rune Algiz. Algiz is a system near Achenar. Closer to Taurus than Corvus is. Or it could be corvus. I have no idea. I've been up almost 22 hours working out codes, I don't have enough brain left to start on another
Please go and get some rest.
I was interested in the 6th clue, and despite it being logically deciphered from available words, I wanted to understand what FDEV were working with.
My first discovery was that the cipher looked to break after word breaks TRUTHTR. I'd like to say my first response was to consider that spaces take up a letter in the key, but I did take a few other tangents first before realizing this. Someone Who - TRUTHTR u THT r UTHTR But it broke down there WASNW. At this point I was keen on characters taking up the key cycle without being represented in the text so the apostrophe didn't throw me off. TRUTHTR u THT r UTHTrU t H...
damn it breaks down here again... Frustrated, and knowing basically what we were deciphering, I decided to build each of the ciphers (T R U H) out directly and see which letters matched which one.
T SMNECNC WVO XAGNU QKSYWNE COREP KIJM ORPJVS GO OPYEEAAI AH
R UOPGEPE YXQ ZCIPW SMUAYPG EQTGR MKLO QTRLXU IQ QRAGGCCK CJ
U RLMDBMB VUN WZFMT PJRXVMD BNQDO JHIL NQOIUR FN NOXDDZZH ZG
H EYZQOZO IHA JMSZG CWEKIZQ OADQB WUVY ADBVHE SA ABKQQMMU MT
TRUTHTR THT UTHTU HtUTHTR THTRU HTRU HTRUTH RU HTRUTHTR TH
So, with allowances for the spaces and the apostrophe We're good up to the C in Carrying, but strangely, we off shift one after the 'C' (expecting T, but the pattern thereafter suggests 'R') yet 'A' is not a match in any of the ciphers values for that second letter. Putting the spaces and the apostrophe back in, the pattern goes: TRUTHTRUTHTRUTH(r?)UTHTRUTHTRUTHTRUTHTRUTHTRUTHTRUTHTRUTH
So a couple reasons this cipher was so hard:
1. Spaces took up characters in the key without being represented in the translation.
2. an Appostrophe does the same thing, and we'd have no way of knowing the Appostrophe is there without knowing the word we're decrypting to.
3. an errant letter in the word Carrying doesn't match the cipher, and from there, we're again shifted one off - I'm guessing somehow the TR got crunched there, but I've worked hard enough on this and don't want to see which of the other 22 possible ciphers match the expected 'A' to Carry on with this.
Given all of that. I'm concluding that the decryption as 'Someone who wasn't carrying cargo will arrive in Apademak at' is intended to be accurate. I'm betting the spaces taking up key characters, the apostrophe, and whatever happened to our 'A' were unintended mistakes, but at least figuring out the spaces portion was a fair challenge with enough non-contextual information to figure it out.
Excited to see what's out there!
CMDR Vinzent Vier
My first discovery was that the cipher looked to break after word breaks TRUTHTR. I'd like to say my first response was to consider that spaces take up a letter in the key, but I did take a few other tangents first before realizing this. Someone Who - TRUTHTR u THT r UTHTR But it broke down there WASNW. At this point I was keen on characters taking up the key cycle without being represented in the text so the apostrophe didn't throw me off. TRUTHTR u THT r UTHTrU t H...
damn it breaks down here again... Frustrated, and knowing basically what we were deciphering, I decided to build each of the ciphers (T R U H) out directly and see which letters matched which one.
T SMNECNC WVO XAGNU QKSYWNE COREP KIJM ORPJVS GO OPYEEAAI AH
R UOPGEPE YXQ ZCIPW SMUAYPG EQTGR MKLO QTRLXU IQ QRAGGCCK CJ
U RLMDBMB VUN WZFMT PJRXVMD BNQDO JHIL NQOIUR FN NOXDDZZH ZG
H EYZQOZO IHA JMSZG CWEKIZQ OADQB WUVY ADBVHE SA ABKQQMMU MT
TRUTHTR THT UTHTU HtUTHTR THTRU HTRU HTRUTH RU HTRUTHTR TH
So, with allowances for the spaces and the apostrophe We're good up to the C in Carrying, but strangely, we off shift one after the 'C' (expecting T, but the pattern thereafter suggests 'R') yet 'A' is not a match in any of the ciphers values for that second letter. Putting the spaces and the apostrophe back in, the pattern goes: TRUTHTRUTHTRUTH(r?)UTHTRUTHTRUTHTRUTHTRUTHTRUTHTRUTHTRUTH
So a couple reasons this cipher was so hard:
1. Spaces took up characters in the key without being represented in the translation.
2. an Appostrophe does the same thing, and we'd have no way of knowing the Appostrophe is there without knowing the word we're decrypting to.
3. an errant letter in the word Carrying doesn't match the cipher, and from there, we're again shifted one off - I'm guessing somehow the TR got crunched there, but I've worked hard enough on this and don't want to see which of the other 22 possible ciphers match the expected 'A' to Carry on with this.
Given all of that. I'm concluding that the decryption as 'Someone who wasn't carrying cargo will arrive in Apademak at' is intended to be accurate. I'm betting the spaces taking up key characters, the apostrophe, and whatever happened to our 'A' were unintended mistakes, but at least figuring out the spaces portion was a fair challenge with enough non-contextual information to figure it out.
Excited to see what's out there!
CMDR Vinzent Vier
also what if that 10:00 is 10pm today
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