So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)

The stars don't get difficult to navigate until about 200 or so light years beyond those two nebula. I'm about a quarter of the way between arms and am having to backtrack a bit I'll likely have to move in to where there's less of gap between the arms and I'm rocking 52ly.

Ok noted. I also have plenty of jumponium to help with the trip. Any area of interest I should check out or is it just a case of get out there and just go with it?? We obviously have the galnet clue to that sector (not in game and can't remember the sector name) and I'm aware of all the clues from the book and what's been discussed already. Just wanted to get away from the "alien" stuff for a few weeks
 
Ok noted. I also have plenty of jumponium to help with the trip. Any area of interest I should check out or is it just a case of get out there and just go with it?? We obviously have the galnet clue to that sector (not in game and can't remember the sector name) and I'm aware of all the clues from the book and what's been discussed already. Just wanted to get away from the "alien" stuff for a few weeks

If you are tuned for a high jump range, you might struggle to spot where the rift is, to a degree!
 
What post got rep from Drew? It may be a pointer that your comment was on target?

Yeah i hope so

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Its difficult to cross except the crossings already known.

There may be other routes out there though.

At a certain point you hit a wall of emptyness and 100+ly jumps. Take plenty off jumponium materials. You will need it.
 
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RE: Hawking's Gap...If I had to guess, the AI thing makes sense as there are supposed to be rogue AI out there in the galaxy (mentioned in the kickstarter dev blog days). Whoever decided to mention the region in the lore could have seen some larger meaning to the name that I didn't, and also saw the potential intrigue the location of Hawking's Gap can throw into the mix.

At the risk of pointing to another dead-end or letting the discussion astray, on the topic of rogue AIs, they are said to originate from the system Laka (some 100LY under the galactic plane, roughly under Aisling Duval's territory).
For the moment, it may be a simple lore element added to the system's description (or even unrelated to the Rift, as far as we know), but if Hawking's Gap should be revealed to be a subtle reference to rogue AI's in the future, the place might become of some interest.
(If not, it is still the system where you can go try and shoot on some station security to state you have witnessed "attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion" ;) )
 
on the topic of rogue AIs, they are said to originate from the system Laka (some 100LY under the galactic plane, roughly under Aisling Duval's territory).
... it may be a simple lore element added to the system's description

That's interesting - its in the system description, and/or there is some other reference somewhere?
 
If you are tuned for a high jump range, you might struggle to spot where the rift is, to a degree!

I have a high jump more so for actually getting out to the rift quicker. I intend to take it easy and not just max jump everywhere. And as we don't actually know what "it" is we're looking for don't assume anything, as not one person knows what we are looking for, other than drew and the devs
 
That's interesting - its in the system description, and/or there is some other reference somewhere?

I checked the system description and realised I may have been a little overenthusiastic on this one. It doesn't state "rogue AIs" as such but makes thinly veiled references to a certain movie about rogue androids (maybe a simple easter egg from FD or some kickstarter backer).

Anyway, here's the screencap of the system description in-game for anyone interested :)
 
Yeah i hope so

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Its difficult to cross except the crossings already known.

There may be other routes out there though.

At a certain point you hit a wall of emptyness and 100+ly jumps. Take plenty off jumponium materials. You will need it.

How far out is this? Other than pretty much the outer arm, my 28 lyr has gotten me to roughly wherever I want to go as long as I don't go too high or too low (down by the persei/2mass systems I needed some +25% jumponium to not have to reroute). Especially in the EAFOTS system.
 
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I'm going to be heading to the heart and soul nebs tonight (8pm ish game time). I'm in a 49.90ly conda, so I think I'll be fine when the "stars thin out". Currently listening to reclamations on audio book, chapter 4 atm. If anyone wants to wing up my forum name is my cmdr name in game, feel free to add me. See you guys out there

You should be fine, CMDR. I made through and beyond with an unmodded Asplorer, with jumponium. You can always land and find some more; make sure you have a surface scanner though. Also, beyond the rift there's a point where there is a region of brown dwarfs that make it a bit dicey too. Make sure to forward check your route, if fuel runs low.
 
You should be fine, CMDR. I made through and beyond with an unmodded Asplorer, with jumponium. You can always land and find some more; make sure you have a surface scanner though. Also, beyond the rift there's a point where there is a region of brown dwarfs that make it a bit dicey too. Make sure to forward check your route, if fuel runs low.

Thanks for the advice CMDR. I'm 76% pioneer so I'm all set for exploration ;p. Would it be easier to head for EAFOTS and use that as a sort of starting point? I know it's a large area but its somewhere to start, right? Obviously I'll be passing through the heart and soul nebs on route for some SS
 
I do question there being anything at those two nebulae since that counters the Rift being a lack of stars. We don't really have much to go on though. Perhaps that "OTSEAFOTSEAF" message meant you could see them from wherever we are trying to find?
Regarding EAFOTS, it mostly surrounds the heart and soul and then some.
I feel like I had a question to ask but now it's gone :/
Maybe it'll come back to me.
 
Here's another weird anomaly I haven't seen before I don't think. I targeted this planet and started flying towards it then noticed some strange effects on my Nav Panel. As I flew closer it appeared the less than symbol would go from the targeted planet to further down the list and then skip up as I neared the planet. Strange, so I tried again - flew away from the planet and approached again. Happened again, and so I tried a third time to get screenshots.
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You're on PC correct? I can head over that way as I've aborted my "cross the gap" mission and have a new plan.

Edit: Stupid question. Of course you are your nav panel is blue not orange.
 
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Here's another weird anomaly I haven't seen before I don't think. I targeted this planet and started flying towards it then noticed some strange effects on my Nav Panel. As I flew closer it appeared the less than symbol would go from the targeted planet to further down the list and then skip up as I neared the planet. Strange, so I tried again - flew away from the planet and approached again. Happened again, and so I tried a third time to get screenshots.

If I were to make a quick guess, I would say something in your custom colors is screwing with things. Try load the default file if you have a backup and see if you have issues.
 
Here's another weird anomaly I haven't seen before I don't think. I targeted this planet and started flying towards it then noticed some strange effects on my Nav Panel. As I flew closer it appeared the less than symbol would go from the targeted planet to further down the list and then skip up as I neared the planet. Strange, so I tried again - flew away from the planet and approached again. Happened again, and so I tried a third time to get screenshots.

Edit: Sorry I misunderstood. Anyway, I'm 99% that is a bug.
 
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If I were to make a quick guess, I would say something in your custom colors is screwing with things. Try load the default file if you have a backup and see if you have issues.

Reverted back, nope. Still present. The color matrix just changes colors, so if it were fudging up it would be present in more areas than just the one panel. It would also be altering colors rather than the symbols which are a coding level beyond simple color using 3D placement to render location. So that's why this seems more intentional than a bug, because these offset locations some of these anomalies appear in wouldn't occur unless there was a coding error causing misplacement - which everyone would see everywhere - or intentionally placed so that it would only surface when certain criteria are met. If it were a graphic driver issue, well after 4 different drivers it would be fixed plus everyone else on nVidia would be seeing this. This has to be calculated - and if a bug then everyone would see it since my system wouldn't calculate the placement uniquely without a CTD or BSOD quickly followed:
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It also isn't consistent in the way it presents itself or if the anomalies will happen. They are randomly different depending on star system if they even show. If they don't show, they never do in that system. If they do show, they always do in that system. For example the previous post I posted with the less than pattern, always happens there. Not exactly the same way each time, but fairly close. Other star systems will have blank entries for a name. Some will show random placements of unexplored or do other random cycling of the less than symbol.

Also unique is that the standard Nav Panel less than symbol font is like this where it alternates between bold and regular and that, aside from "unexplored," are the only things that are anomalous:
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And I have not seen this before except in this location. I would have definitely noticed something like this in my days back in the bubble:
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I've seen thousands of bugs in my days, and these are looking more and more intentional.
 
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Reverted back, nope. Still present. The color matrix just changes colors, so if it were fudging up it would be present in more areas than just the one panel. It would also be altering colors rather than the symbols which are a coding level beyond simple color using 3D placement to render location. So that's why this seems more intentional than a bug, because these offset locations some of these anomalies appear in wouldn't occur unless there was a coding error causing misplacement - which everyone would see everywhere - or intentionally placed so that it would only surface when certain criteria are met. If it were a graphic driver issue, well after 4 different drivers it would be fixed plus everyone else on nVidia would be seeing this. This has to be calculated - and if a bug then everyone would see it since my system wouldn't calculate the placement uniquely without a CTD or BSOD quickly followed:
It also isn't consistent in the way it presents itself or if the anomalies will happen. They are randomly different depending on star system if they even show. If they don't show, they never do in that system. If they do show, they always do in that system. For example the previous post I posted with the less than pattern, always happens there. Not exactly the same way each time, but fairly close. Other star systems will have blank entries for a name. Some will show random placements of unexplored or do other random cycling of the less than symbol.

Also unique is that the standard Nav Panel less than symbol font is like this where it alternates between bold and regular and that, aside from "unexplored," are the only things that are anomalous:

And I have not seen this before except in this location. I would have definitely noticed something like this in my days back in the bubble:
I've seen thousands of bugs in my days, and these are looking more and more intentional.

Alright, so what do they mean?
Right now, this tells us nothing.
Have you checked USSs in the affected systems?
 
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