As I said, some of us find using our brains to be enjoyable.
***POLL NOW CLOSED*** IMPORTANT, OFFICIAL SHIP TRANSFER POLL
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By that token, as soon as delays are added, those of us who want instant transfers have every right to immediately demand that delays are removed. It's still in beta, so it's okay.
Of course you are welcome to argue your case. That's what we're all doing.
Demand it all you want, i am sure they will put up another poll next week lol.
+1 to you, sirrah. For the awesome "what if" as well as the most excellent Teladi reference. Profitzzz!
At this rate, I'm beginning to come around to the idea of scrapping ship transfers altogether. If a feature is this divisive to the community, it may not be worth adding. We were all happier with the game before it was announced.
Well that was productive. Have you considered that maybe people don't like delays that add nothing to the game? And I'll remind you that it was the near incessant whining, threatening emails, endless posts about how "immersive" it was to wait that caused this controversy. Not because ship transfers were going to be a thing, but because someone leaked a beta screenshot of the feature showing it was instant.
It's certainly not the "baby casual console peasants" that you so maturely claimed, who started this.
This poll is just not needed.
The other 'mega poll' indicates feelings quite nicely, with a 50/50 split between the 'instant or close to' people, and those who want 'longer/longest' wait times.
Based on that poll, this poll will likely show iro 75% in favour of a wait, with no granularity of what 'a wait' actually means.
So, depending how the wait is to be implemented, it will be ignoring at least 50%, and potentially 75% of those who've already voted.
All this poll does is further polarise the opinions of the '90-9-1' one-percenters.
The other 'mega poll' indicates feelings quite nicely, with a 50/50 split between the 'instant or close to' people, and those who want 'longer/longest' wait times.
Based on that poll, this poll will likely show iro 75% in favour of a wait, with no granularity of what 'a wait' actually means.
So, depending how the wait is to be implemented, it will be ignoring at least 50%, and potentially 75% of those who've already voted.
All this poll does is further polarise the opinions of the '90-9-1' one-percenters.
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This has certainly overshadowed all the other amazing work the team have done in 2.2. Shame really.
Just be sure to vote. Tell all your friends, everyone you know that plays. That's the whole point of this poll after all. And for whatever it's worth, I think Fdev is making the right move; they announced insta transfer in such a way that implied we were getting it like it or not, there was a massive outcry and now they're opening a dialogue with all of us in response.
+1 to Fdev.
Depending on costs, you would never need to fly a T9 again. It would be Zero Risk trading... Remove all modules, fill her up with cargo at the buy station, use the best ship to fly to where you want to sell, and then Transfer the T9 and Sell the goods. Fly back to the buy station in fast ship, transfer back and then repeat. If they make it too expensive to do this then most people will complain it too expensive.
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Virtual rep (gotta cycle it through/spread the love). Totally cool that FD decided to include us in the decision like this.
As I recall, you can only transfer stored ships, and you can't store a ship that has cargo in it.
Disingenuous; it's been repeated ad nausium in this thread that there will be no sitting at a menu. You are free to go about playing, unless you want to wait there.
As a company, Fdev has to make a decision. And if that decision ends up being a "wait" of some sort of realistic length, they'll be siding with roughly 75% of that previous poll.
Any way you cut it, getting a transfer even with a minor delay is still a massive QOL improvement.
seems fair as long as you don't have to wait for every individual change in sequence. you refit as usual, a delay is queued for each change, you cannot take off in that ship until the queue is empty, but you can switch to another one.
hailing frequency, man!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M9GLauiT9Q
really? so it has come to this! ok, then. but if you have the mats you can print another escape pod, right?
Agree with that. It is a shame. That stuff on white dwarfs and neutron starts sounds awesome, especially for explorers like me.
Regarding the topic at hand though, it seems that most want ship transfers of some kind, and that a smaller majority would prefer a time delay (at least those here on the forums) if implemented as has been mentioned so far.
I'm curious now how this turns out and looking forward to playing the game much more than I was the past couple weeks. I've been dreading the notion of instant ship transfers to the point that it's put me off playing the game for a bit while this gets sorted, though I have jumped on a couple of times while heading back from Jaques Station.
I've already made my resolution about not using instant ship transfers either way and to not give up on the game, but the thought of them still makes the journey back from Jaques feel kind of meaningless to me. It has definitely taken some of the wind out of my sails.
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Nah! there are lots of things that controversial, its just that some have been around forever. This is the new hot topic. I think what ED has done in this case is good. at lest if they can keep up with this thread, they can weigh up the arguments.
I'd point out that you can't transfer cargo, you can't store cargo, you can't transfer a loaded ship, you can't transfer yourself, you can't change ships with loaded cargo to a ship that can't store that cargo, this is already coded and was revealed in the reddit thread. If you're trying to argue that they should modify the ship transfer code so it allows both delays and the ability to load cargo, please don't. If you're trying to argue that you can move cargo with ship transfer you're misinformed. If you're just making random stuff up to try and discredit instant while making delay look like a good idea I'd say you seem typical of people who are for delay using Fear Uncertainty Doubt (FUD) to confuse people and drive them away from the issue.
Yeah, I feel much more positive with this turn of events, even if it doesn't work out the way I might prefer.
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