Would you turn up for a supernova?

[JetsonRING]

Seriously, show up at a supernova?
Who does that? Today's Volcano Jumpers?

How would they have offspring?

You could not "show up" at the actual event because the supernova event itself, the "explosion" is not predictable. You would have to show up and wait, maybe for hundreds or thousands of years for the star to explode. And anyway, it would probably finally happen while you are in the bathroom and you would miss it. How impressive is a great, big FLASH anyway, since that is all anyone would really see?

 

[Sentenza]

Seriously, show up at a supernova?
Who does that? Today's Volcano Jumpers?

How would they have offspring?

Well, there is a case of a group of young kids who thought it would have been cool to organize an hurricane party. Yes, it is exactly what you think. And no, they definitely did not have offsprings.

 

[CmdrKull]

It would've cool, but if the nearest star is less than 10 light years then they'd better set a reminder to update the skybox.

 

[Certacito]

I would not only go to that, but I would configure my cargo hatch to dump bottles of champagne so we could have a Supernova party and get smashed in a spirit of "we are all going to die from this, so let's get methed!"

 

[Kayweg]

Basically supernova as a CG then ?

Not sure about that. Ideally cosmic events like that should just happen randomly on their own ? Like in the real universe ?

But perhaps that's beyond the game's capabilities. A "staged" supernova event however would feel terribly artificial to me.

 

[Spaceburger]

Basically supernova as a CG then ?

Not sure about that. Ideally cosmic events like that should just happen randomly on their own ? Like in the real universe ?

But perhaps that's beyond the game's capabilities. A "staged" supernova event however would feel terribly artificial to me.

Some people have been waiting for Betelgeuse to pop for a while now could happen any moment...

 

[Squire]

Definitely... but considering this is based on an actual universe with actual real stars and planets, the only way that would happen is if a star actually DID go supernova IRL.

Problem is, considering the nearest star is over 4 light years away from us, even if Alpha Centauri went supernova, we wouldn't see it until 4 years after it had happened. We'd have to be able to detect a supernova being about to happen long before it actually happened to have a chance of staging the event IG at the same time that it actually happened. Good luck with that!

 

[CMDR-AD]

Having a supernova in the Elite galaxy would mean that you could view it from nearly anywhere you wanted. You could even "rewind" and watch it again.

 

[evoelise]

Wouldn't ring side seats to a supernova probably result in death, or you would have to be so far away that the light would take years to reach you?

In theory - you would have to be closer than "how long the light would take to reach you" to actually see anything.

 

[Deleted member 110222]

Where is the poll?

 

[Spaceburger]

Where is the poll?

First we need a poll to see if it would be worth making a poll about having active supernovae in Elite.

 

[Edith_The_Hutt]

Some people have been waiting for Betelgeuse to pop for a while now could happen any moment...

We're not certain it hasn't happened already.

 

[[VR] Deggial]

1) A super nova isn't a table fireworks. Everybody witnessing a super nova in its system should die instantly. Everything else would mean trivializing this galactic cataclysm.

2) "Riding" the nova with a speed >1c would mean not seeing anything at all. All you could see is the light (=the previous picture) of the still intact sun.

3) It would take years, until the nova could be seen in neighboring systems. Remember? The term "lightyears" literally means the time light needs to travel the distance.

4) Even then, all life would end instantaneously in this nearby systems. The closest "safe" distance is about 50-100 lys. Again: super nova =! table fireworks.
(Okay, every technology that allows us fuel-scooping a sun might protect us at a distance less than this, too. I still wouldn't want to be closer than 20 lys when the front arrives.)

5) Visiting the remains of such a nova would be cool, I grant you this. Fortunately, we already can: some of the colorful nebulas scattered around in the galaxy are remains from nova explosions. You really should travel there, they are gorgeous!

Edit:
6) I know, I'm boring!

 

[cptdavep]

Technically there should be loads to view from a distance across the galaxy. With an average of 1 supernova in the galaxy each century, and the galaxy being over 100,000ly across there should be at least 1000 to see if you could park in the right place at the right time. And yeah it would be awesome if Betelgeuse went pop! Maybe it could be the start gun for invasion.

 

[Brian of Ardagh]

Depends whether we're sure of any stars due to go supernova in the next 1200 years... and not a procedural Supergiant that's the other side of the core. But yeah, I'd go to that definitely.

There's no way to be sure but you can estimate the odds. The last one in our galaxy was in 1680, based on the observed rate of supernova explosions in galaxies similar to ours we are likely overdue for one. In the next 1200 years there will most definitely be a few. I'm sure FD could find a candidate that could blow in 1200 years give or take.

 

[Brian of Ardagh]

1) A super nova isn't a table fireworks. Everybody witnessing a super nova in its system should die instantly. Everything else would mean trivializing this galactic cataclysm.

2) "Riding" the nova with a speed >1c would mean not seeing anything at all. All you could see is the light (=the previous picture) of the still intact sun.

3) It would take years, until the nova could be seen in neighboring systems. Remember? The term "lightyears" literally means the time light needs to travel the distance.

4) Even then, all life would end instantaneously in this nearby systems. The closest "safe" distance is about 50-100 lys. Again: super nova =! table fireworks.

5) Visiting the remains of such a nova would be cool, I grant you this. Fortunately, we already can: some of the colorful nebulas scattered around in the galaxy are remains from nova explosions. You really should travel there, they are gorgeous!

Edit:
6) I know, I'm boring!

No, you aren't boring, the word you are looking for is pedantic!

Everyone witnessing a supernova would die if they aren't moving away from it. If you are in SC you are able to detect things occurring in the system many Ls away from you. Your ship would give you a warning that the star was imploding and about to blow. If you keep a good viewable distance from the explosion and are moving in SC faster than the ejecta you'd be okay. You would have to be going faster than c to avoid radiation, I doubt the shields are strong enough to protect you.

Yes, it should take years for other systems to see the result, giving FD the chance to create a believable nebula that would grow over time. It would make for a nice new passengers spot, the event itself could be worth multi-millions, later viewings could still net millions.

FD could pick a star where nearby systems don't have any habitable life, or those worlds nearby could visualize the damage a supernova might bring. It would be cool if one of the planets orbiting the star as it went boom was ejected from the system to wander in the cold dark void. Just adding a supernova could add some "life" to the galaxy.

Had a thought about the ejected planet idea. I say we make it a moon, with a base on it, we could call it Moonbase Alpha!

 

[TheSisko]

Yeah, I'll be up for that.

 

[Ziljan]

Everyone witnessing a supernova would die if they aren't moving away from it. If you are in SC you are able to detect things occurring in the system many Ls away from you. Your ship would give you a warning that the star was imploding and about to blow. If you keep a good viewable distance from the explosion and are moving in SC faster than the ejecta you'd be okay. You would have to be going faster than c to avoid radiation, I doubt the shields are strong enough to protect you.

Read points #2 and #4 again. If you are moving >c then you will be out pacing the photons and seeing the system as it was pre-explosion. If you slow down before your get to the next system and any photons overtake you, you die. Ergo, there is no point in running first and then slowing down to take a peak. Even the barest glimpse of the explosion from anywhere within the system would mean your death. Even at the distance from Hutton Orbital, and you'd have to wait a couple months for the photons to come and kill you (0.22LY => 2.64 Months), the energy would still be like having many hydrogen bombs going off in your lap.

You'd have to be across the bubble and wait several decades for even a chance of surviving.

 

[Kaybe]

Yeah... sure ... from a few hundred light years away!

An actual supernova would instantly destroy everything within that star system, followed shortly by everything in neighbouring star systems. And then completely irradiate everything for dozens of light years beyond that.

One does not simply gaze at a supernova up close.

 

[Brian of Ardagh]

Read points #2 and #4 again. If you are moving >c then you will be out pacing the photons and seeing the system as it was pre-explosion. If you slow down before your get to the next system and any photons overtake you, you die. Ergo, there is no point in running first and then slowing down to take a peak. Even the barest glimpse of the explosion from anywhere within the system would mean your death. Even at the distance from Hutton Orbital, and you'd have to wait a couple months for the photons to come and kill you (0.22LY => 2.64 Months), the energy would still be like having many hydrogen bombs going off in your lap.

You'd have to be across the bubble and wait several decades for even a chance of surviving.

You are correct using the physics we use in real life but in game I'm able to detect weapons fire and determine a threat level for a USS from 200 Ls away while in SC. No reason I can't be in SC and detect a supernova from a similar distance even though the photons are getting further behind me.

Sure, I'd like the physics in ED to be a bit more realistic but SC does things that can't, and probably will never, be explained by actual physics. I'm just saying we go for it based on the in-game physics, for the fun of it.