So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)

[Jaiotu]

Posting off-topic:

I put together a little puzzle if anyone is interested. I did one back in July that some of you guys managed to decipher pretty quickly. If you're interested the puzzle is in the off-topic forum here:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...zle-to-share?p=4489615&viewfull=1#post4489615

 

[AlexAndTheDJ]

I may have found one of the Galnet articles which Drew has stated we may have missed.
I understand the eb, p message is understood to have been caeser cipher.
However, what I have read today has led me to believe there may be more to it.

https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/08-APR-3302

The article regarding Salomé has the content eb, p
The wording around the eb, p seems disjointed and forced, like it was worded to accommodate the letters eb, p

Whether this has any meaning or just a coincidence i do not know.
But it's certainly possible it is a clue.

 

[SpocksOddSocks]

I may have found one of the Galnet articles which Drew has stated we may have missed.
I understand the eb, p message is understood to have been caeser cipher.
However, what I have read today has led me to believe there may be more to it.

https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/08-APR-3302

The article regarding Salomé has the content eb, p
The wording around the eb, p seems disjointed and forced, like it was worded to accommodate the letters eb, p

Whether this has any meaning or just a coincidence i do not know.
But it's certainly possible it is a clue.

I personally doubt this is anything, but you are right about the sentence it is found does seem a little forced:

These routes combine in a complex cobweb, paths through the void.

 

[Zeeman]

Finally got a chance to play - 4.5k LY down, almost there.

With regards to the vanishing nebula, have people on different platforms had a look? Or just PC only? If the vanishing nebula is consistent across PC, Mac and XB1, I think it is more likely to be something to look further in to...

I'm on my Mac at the moment, so may just have a sticky beak....

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[AlexAndTheDJ]

I personally doubt this is anything, but you are right about the sentence it is found does seem a little forced:

And I believe it is Drew who writes these articles on Salomé. It strikes me as odd that an author would be happy to use such disjointed sentence structure without purpose. (This is where it IS merely a coincidence and i've just insulted Drews writing ability :O)

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Finally got a chance to play - 4.5k LY down, almost there.

With regards to the vanishing nebula, have people on different platforms had a look? Or just PC only? If the vanishing nebula is consistent across PC, Mac and XB1, I think it is more likely to be something to look further in to...

I'm on my Mac at the moment, so may just have a sticky beak....

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I believe it has been reproduced on both xbox and pc. Not sure about mac

 

[Jaiotu]

I may have found one of the Galnet articles which Drew has stated we may have missed.
I understand the eb, p message is understood to have been caeser cipher.
However, what I have read today has led me to believe there may be more to it.

https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/08-APR-3302

The article regarding Salomé has the content eb, p
The wording around the eb, p seems disjointed and forced, like it was worded to accommodate the letters eb, p

Whether this has any meaning or just a coincidence i do not know.
But it's certainly possible it is a clue.

Thanks, but this has been covered. Drew was, as I recall, a bit disappointed that we didn't pick up on it immediately.

 

[Zeeman]

And I believe it is Drew who writes these articles on Salomé. It strikes me as odd that an author would be happy to use such disjointed sentence structure without purpose. (This is where it IS merely a coincidence and i've just insulted Drews writing ability :O)

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I believe it has been reproduced on both xbox and pc. Not sure about mac

OK, I guess my nest task is clear.

Epic tin foil hat time.

The escalation of tensions between the Empire and Federation is due to us getting closer to the "truth", and a way to distract the population from what's out here.

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[Legacy_LuckyLuke]

I personally doubt this is anything, but you are right about the sentence it is found does seem a little forced:

Yup. It was a deliberate 'Easter egg' put in there to keep the rifters amused whilst not much else was going on at the time. No more no less, sorry!

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...-Rift-Part-2?p=3820071&viewfull=1#post3820071

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Thanks, but this has been covered. Drew was, as I recall, a bit disappointed that we didn't pick up on it immediately.

Indeed, he was

 

[AlexAndTheDJ]

Thanks, but this has been covered. Drew was, as I recall, a bit disappointed that we didn't pick up on it immediately.

Yup. It was a deliberate 'Easter egg' put in there to keep the rifters amused whilst not much else was going on at the time. No more no less, sorry!

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...-Rift-Part-2?p=3820071&viewfull=1#post3820071

Damn! Apologies cmdrs. Thought I had something there :/

Edit: but on the brightside I didnt slam Drews writing abilities!

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

I may have found one of the Galnet articles which Drew has stated we may have missed.
I understand the eb, p message is understood to have been caeser cipher.
However, what I have read today has led me to believe there may be more to it.

https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/08-APR-3302

The article regarding Salomé has the content eb, p
The wording around the eb, p seems disjointed and forced, like it was worded to accommodate the letters eb, p

Whether this has any meaning or just a coincidence i do not know.
But it's certainly possible it is a clue.

I don't think this is a clue; I suspect Drew is regarding it as an alternative form of in-game signature.

 

[Genar-Hofoen]

I may have found one of the Galnet articles which Drew has stated we may have missed.
I understand the eb, p message is understood to have been caeser cipher.
However, what I have read today has led me to believe there may be more to it.

https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/08-APR-3302

The article regarding Salomé has the content eb, p
The wording around the eb, p seems disjointed and forced, like it was worded to accommodate the letters eb, p

Whether this has any meaning or just a coincidence i do not know.
But it's certainly possible it is a clue.

Actually, I spotted that one when that galnet article came out - it was discussed in the Formidine Rift channel on the Fleetcomm Discord server, in lieu of the observation of that one sentence "These routes combine in a complex cobweb, paths through the void.", which stuck out to me like a sore thumb.

If memory serves, it was just a thing that Drew added in order to do the "eb, p" thing.

Regards

 

[lorrad]

You know what? If it is a bug mapping out what systems are effected by the bug might help Frontier figure out what is causing it so it wouldn't necessarily be a wasted effort.

Closing in on FuriousMeow's systems only 5 kylies to go.

But, regard the H&S I thinks its a model draw distance thing in that the two of them are set for different distances. Is one a custom nebula and the other, one of the bog standard nebula? That could explain it. As I fly in around -9950,80,-8550 I can go back and forth in the map and watch it pop in and out. Think they've not been placed following the same rules, so that's all this is about.

See it works the other way from the other side, so even if the rules are the same it's like a parallax issue in that you're closer to one than the other.

 

[FuriousMeow]

I could take a break from what I'm doing to take a look. What systems is this happening in?

I'm in the Far Formidine chasing Dehzz's 1000's of earths, ammonia and water worlds thing. Have maybe checked out 1/6 - 1/5 of the systems in the area and have reached the provisional conclusion of "meh". More than usual, yes; significant maybe?

http://imgur.com/a/mMTIh

Yellow dot center of search OOB PHLAI ZL-Y C0.
Green - earths
Blue - waters
Yellow Ammonia
Orange Gas Giants with life

If you want to waste your time, the systems are in PHOI AESCS. A couple are PHOI AeSCS CS-Z C27-0, PHOI AESCS JD-Z Cs27-0, PHOI AESCS NI-B D13-7, and HYPIAE AIM IZ-A C0 with a bunch in that general area. Good luck! The most common is the less than symbol cycling through the list, sometimes randomly showing up where no entries are, being offset from the line, or showing up bold alternate HUD color/non-bold and sometimes non-bold primary HUD color. Others are UNEXPLORED randomly showing up or randomly cycling through even where no entries are, or entirely blank entries that flash and finally fill in. Tends to only happen when "Unexplored."

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You know what? If it is a bug mapping out what systems are effected by the bug might help Frontier figure out what is causing it so it wouldn't necessarily be a wasted effort.

The Nebula is not present from the cockpit in PHOI AESCS. It is visible on the Galmap from that area, but not in-cockpit. Two different renderings of course, so that doesn't mean much just adding that to be complete.

 

[lorrad]

If you want to waste your time, the systems are in PHOI AESCS. A couple are PHOI AeSCS CS-Z C27-0, PHOI AESCS JD-Z Cs27-0, PHOI AESCS NI-B D13-7, and HYPIAE AIM IZ-A C0 with a bunch in that general area. Good luck! The most common is the less than symbol cycling through the list, sometimes randomly showing up where no entries are, being offset from the line, or showing up bold alternate HUD color/non-bold and sometimes non-bold primary HUD color. Others are UNEXPLORED randomly showing up or randomly cycling through even where no entries are, or entirely blank entries that flash and finally fill in. Tends to only happen when "Unexplored."

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The Nebula is not present from the cockpit in PHOI AESCS. It is visible on the Galmap from that area, but not in-cockpit. Two different renderings of course, so that doesn't mean much just adding that to be complete.

Got there and everything working normally in the nav panel so far. Nothing at all like your videos. Would have been cool if it had been. Interference to ship systems in multiple systems in a large local area,,,what could that,,,it must be the presence of some enormous power source,,,why it could only be Raxxla! Sadly I think it's some unique bug to your hardware and software. Cosmic ray damage?,, it does happen,, really.

Kept an eye on the H&S on the way. Could see the Soul from a long way off and didn't see the Heart for thousands of light years and then it slowly faded in and then out again. It was dark and dusty and blending into the background dust of the galactic plane. Couldn't see either from cockpit in
PHOI AESCS NI-B D13-7 and realized I could and both were dark from that angle and blending into the background dust.

Here's an example of that http://imgur.com/a/RLmMi. You can see the soul and the heart is actually dead center, its that u shaped or seahorse shaped smudge and looks like its part of the background galaxy.

It's not that other stuff isn't going on too.

 

[Zeeman]

So, I'm at Phroea Phoe MN-L B11-0, and the Heart Nebula is not visible, it's about 592Ly below the Galactic plane. I'm on a Mac.

Edit - whoops - it is now visible in that system, my previous 2 systems they were not - sadly, can't tell you what they are, as EDSM seems to not be working right now...

H Persei Sector OF-W B16-0 Heart Nebula also gone. Logging out and in makes no difference.


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[AlexAndTheDJ]

So, I'm at Phroea Phoe MN-L B11-0, and the Heart Nebula is not visible, it's about 592Ly below the Galactic plane. I'm on a Mac.

Edit - whoops - it is now visible in that system, my previous 2 systems they were not - sadly, can't tell you what they are, as EDSM seems to not be working right now...

H Persei Sector OF-W B16-0 Heart Nebula also gone. Logging out and in makes no difference.


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It really is odd that the issue spreads across all platforms. But i dont know much about programming so it may not be so odd.

I'm leaning towards 'bug', but it strikes me as odd that this 'bug' was pointed out to fdev last year, and its not been fixed. Why?

I've mapped some systems where the nebula disappears and theyre all on a very similar vertical plane.

If you go straight down from SCHEAU PHOE UG-S A72-1 (which seems to be the peak) you hit loads of them. so i guess its some sort of programming issue but until its clarified it needs to be monitored.

 

[Jaiotu]

It really is odd that the issue spreads across all platforms. But i dont know much about programming so it may not be so odd

If there is a bug in the Cobra engine itself then it would be a cross platform bug.

 

[dynamicbob]

If there is a bug in the Cobra engine itself then it would be a cross platform bug.

thats very possible but uncofnfirmed currently

 

[AlexAndTheDJ]

thats very possible but uncofnfirmed currently

Just to clarify it has been confirmned on xbox, pc and mac.

On a side note ive crossed many ammonia worlds around the rift and no persistent USS's. Not saying give up on the idea, just reporting back that after spending a long time in orbit of these nothing has come up

 

[Zeeman]

Im about 600LY directly under H&S now, and Heart is still not visible in the skybox. Pretty much going to keep on going at this level until I get as far as I can to the edge, then stick to the ~45LY line on my way back. Basically, looking towards the bubble for the whole trip back.

May as well leave the vanishing Heart thing in the "wait and see" box, until bug status in confirmed or denied.
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