Private servers killed open play

[Robert Maynard]

No but you seem to know what quote I'm on about so what's the point?

The point is that it was mentioned as part of a brainstorming post regarding Powerplay - and very quickly pointed out to be inconsistent with Frontier's stated position that all game modes are equal and valid, that they have no plans to incentivise any game mode and they are aware that not all players agree with that stance.

 

[UnhappyDev]

Just seems more like dead space than
Elite dangerous

Do some community goals if you want to see/interact with other players, just take a fast ship!

 

[Robert Maynard]

Isn't this yet another extension of Hotel California?

Yes - the XB1 forum often has threads running that duplicate those in other areas of the Forum.

 

[Miklos Atreides]

I'm all for incentives... As long as there isn't Open-only content.

1.5 multiplier on trade profits in Open? Sure, I can live with that.

But that's not stopping the same gameplay with standard rewards in Solo.

Won't work so simple just because open for exploitation.
Buy open , change mode, fly what you like, change mode, sell.

Regards,
Miklos

 

[Comrade Error]

The point is that it was mentioned as part of a brainstorming post regarding Powerplay - and very quickly pointed out to be inconsistent with Frontier's stated position that all game modes are equal and valid, that they have no plans to incentivise any game mode and they are aware that not all players agree with that stance.

Don't think he did in that post I was reffering to.

 

[Robert Maynard]

Don't think he did in that post I was reffering to.

He didn't - Devs have made those statements though, prior to Sandro's comment - take a look in the OP of the Hotel California thread - if you can't find them there (or in Jockey's Wall-of-Text™), let me know and I'll dig them out....

 

[Comrade Error]

He didn't - Devs have made those statements though, prior to Sandro's comment - take a look in the OP of the Hotel California thread - if you can't find them there (or in Jockey's Wall-of-Text™), let me know and I'll dig them out....

I know those statments have been made but have they specificly stated they won't incentivise certain modes? I mean right now if anything doing a CG in solo is incentivised as there is a smaller chance of going boom.

 

[mung0]

I mean right now if anything doing a CG in solo is incentivised as there is a smaller chance of going boom.

Yeah this is very valid point. The risk reward balance is heavily out of whack due to this. Maybe we need wing bonuses that go beyond just selling of commodities?

The solo bears would have a right tantrum but, let them.

 

[Robert Maynard]

I know those statments have been made but have they specificly stated they won't incentivise certain modes? I mean right now if anything doing a CG in solo is incentivised as there is a smaller chance of going boom.

Here you go (still looking for one specific one though):

Will at any time solo and private group play be separated into a different universe/database from open play? It's kind of cheap that you can be safe from many things in solo, like player blockades and so on, and still affect the same universe.

No.

Michael

Thanks for that clarity Michael.

Are you in a position to confirm that group switching between the three game modes will remain as a feature of the game?

We're not planning on changing that.

Michael

Hi Micheal

I know you said that solo/group and open will always use the same universe, can you also say that there will be no specific perks in playing in one mode over another? i.e bigger profit from trading in open or bigger bounties?

None are planned at the moment.

Michael

Found it:

Is there planned to be any defense against the possibility that player created minor factions could be destroyed with no possible recourse through Private Groups or Solo play?

From the initial inception of the game we have considered all play modes are equally valid choices. While we are aware that some players disagree, this hasn't changed for us.

Michael

 

[mung0]

Just seems more like dead space than
Elite dangerous

Might turn my attentions to cqc 

 

[UnhappyDev]

Yeah this is very valid point. The risk reward balance is heavily out of whack due I this Maybe we need wing bonuses that go beyond just selling of commodities?

The solo bears would have a right tantrum but, let them.

ATM if you blow up a wanted ship in a wing you share the bounty with your wingmen, so the current incentive is to fight solo.

Wing trades are very small (unless your wingman is in a cutter ). Maybe they can increase the rewards for these activities without causing too much crying?

 

[Comrade Error]

Here you go (still looking for one specific one though):

Would be nice to know what you do to find these quotes? Going into his recent posts then what? Searching for keywords? Finding a quote from Trump or Obama is quite easy, finding one from a game dev working on a relativly unknown game is not.

But yea so far none of those quotes specify incentives and Sandro (I believe) seemed like he was open to the idea.

 

[Robert Maynard]

Would be nice to know what you do to find these quotes? Going into his recent posts then what? Searching for keywords? Finding a quote from Trump or Obama is quite easy, finding one from a game dev working on a relativly unknown game is not.

But yea so far none of those quotes specify incentives and Sandro (I believe) seemed like he was open to the idea.

The first three are in the spoiler in the OP of the Hotel California thread. I actually had to resort to Google for the last one.

Sandro might be in favour of a higher weighting to Powerplay merits delivered in Open - it remains to be seen if the concept can progress past theorising.

 

[Comrade Error]

The first three are in the spoiler in the OP of the Hotel California thread. I actually had to resort to Google for the last one.

Really? Google worked? Huh.

 

[PilleTheKid]

hu another open is dead thread ?

no it isnt . you just need to visit popular systems because elite is damn huge.

 

[MrTetra]

I dunno what's wrong with your space buddy. When I log on I see my friends all in open, bar 1. Lots of CMDRs in Empire space. About 150lyrs outside the bubble looking for mining areas and I find a CMDR in system. Gave a quick o7 and got one back.

 

[Brett C]

Open play is dead in the water.

Private servers lol great idea

Now xbox live clubs...

Well, you've piqued my interest. So, here I am... taking a look at our player numbers in solo vs open for xbox one here. I can simply say this: Even during non-peak hours for Xbox One, Open play still has more (a lot more than "dead", and a lot more than solo) players on it than solo.

Space is a big place, check out the ongoing CG's, get to know some people.

 

[UnhappyDev]

Well, you've piqued my interest. So, here I am... taking a look at our player numbers in solo vs open for xbox one here. I can simply say this: Even during non-peak hours for Xbox One, Open play still has more (a lot more than "dead", and a lot more than solo) players on it than solo.

Space is a big place, check out the ongoing CG's, get to know some people.

That's good to know. Thanks for the insight

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

Well, you've piqued my interest. So, here I am... taking a look at our player numbers in solo vs open for xbox one here. I can simply say this: Even during non-peak hours for Xbox One, Open play still has more (a lot more than "dead", and a lot more than solo) players on it than solo.

Space is a big place, check out the ongoing CG's, get to know some people.

How much is a bribe for similar evaluation of PC numbers?

 

[Brett C]

How much is a bribe for similar evaluation of PC numbers?

Well.. it's about... hey wait a minute. [hotas]