Mining inconveniences

[bubbabenali]

So, I try to get the 500t ore refinement goal for the engineer and have a problem with trash ores and collector limped targeting.
1. Is there a way to automatically vent ores that I don't want to refine anyways?
1a. Is there a way to scan an asteroid without the prospector limpets? I mean we can scan whole planets from up to 50 ls away, yet we can't even roughly evaluate the elements of an asteroid mearly 500m in front of our nose?

2. Is there a way to programm collector limpets to what to collect and what not? It's especially stupid if the bring me stolen goods that I dont want or - even better - canisters I just thrown out (and abandoned).

 

[Siranui]

1) Nope
1a) Nope. Although you can just shoot off a fragment with your mining laser and then target it, to see what it is made of.
2) Nope.

 

[D.G.Cerberus]

1) Nope
1a) Nope. Although you can just shoot off a fragment with your mining laser and then target it, to see what it is made of.
2) Nope.

^ ^ This
Although, I'm sure you know this but the engineer doesn't care what 500t are mined - can be crap stuff. (I realise you may wish to make a profit along the way but if you want to save time just mine any old rubbish and you will have your 500t requirement in no time at all)

Of course, hopefully along the way you might bump into 10t Painite......

 

[bubbabenali]

1) Nope
1a) Nope. Although you can just shoot off a fragment with your mining laser and then target it, to see what it is made of.
2) Nope.

Ugh 1000 years of evolution and we need to mine like 1000 bc...

And it's not that profitable on top, at least in normal systems.
I think I'm gonna pass of this aspect after I got the 500t.

 

[Siranui]

Umm... back in the early days of this game there were no drones. You're getting the easy ride!

By definition it is pretty much all profit, though. No outlay on cargo required. Moreso in pristine metallics. Several million can be accumulated in a single trip without much difficulty.

 

[bubbabenali]

Umm... back in the early days of this game there were no drones. You're getting the easy ride!

By definition it is pretty much all profit, though. No outlay on cargo required. Moreso in pristine metallics. Several million can be accumulated in a single trip without much difficulty.

Several millions!? Hmmm I think, I'll try to outfit my Dropship for that then.
Thx.

 

[Wile_E]

Several millions!? Hmmm I think, I'll try to outfit my Dropship for that then.
Thx.

IDK if a dropship is enough for a multi-million round trip. No matter how much you try to optimize the mining. Believe me, I've spent a few hours and -credits doing that:

http://inara.cz/cmdr-fleet/13423/64660

That's 3 medium mining lasers, 14 collectors and one prospector and the power line to support firing the 3 lasers long enough to mine a whole prospected asteroid in one go.

With the mine-a-conda I can get about 3 to 6 million credits per trip.

There are a few things you should keep in mind while mining:

Don't go to a RES site, ever. Instead look for a pristine reserves metallic ring and drop as far from any RES as possible, on the dayside of the planet. Immediately after dropping from SC, boost about 20km away from the low wake site. When mining, always proceed towards the planet - keeps you from having to go through the same rocks more than once.

When your collectors expire, don't assign new ones before you've vented all the non-valuable minerals and left them far enough back so that your limpets won't gather them back up again. Take enough limpets to fill your cargo bay to about 3/4 full. If you "strike gold" and get enough valuable metals to fill your hold before you have used up enough limpets, you can always discard a few of them - they are cheap enough. Maximum gains can be had from the 3 P:s - Painite, Palladium and Platinum. Prospect every rock before you start mining it. If it doesn't contain any of the valuable 3 materials, move on.

 

[mistohise]

Umm... back in the early days of this game there were no drones. You're getting the easy ride!

By definition it is pretty much all profit, though. No outlay on cargo required. Moreso in pristine metallics. Several million can be accumulated in a single trip without much difficulty.

Maybe if you have a mining cutter or you happen to fall very lucky with what missions you can pick up after you mine stuff. I've never seen anything close to that. You'd have to be very picky about what you mine in a smaller ship, which means the process would take hours.

Mining IME is really not that profitable compared to other trades. At the same time, it's not particularly difficult, either. So you take your choice, I guess.

 

[goemon]

Maybe if you have a mining cutter or you happen to fall very lucky with what missions you can pick up after you mine stuff. I've never seen anything close to that. You'd have to be very picky about what you mine in a smaller ship, which means the process would take hours.

Mining IME is really not that profitable compared to other trades. At the same time, it's not particularly difficult, either. So you take your choice, I guess.

i go mining in a clipper or python. 128t of cargo (both). i sell at boom systems. avergage profit per ton is 25k cr. that's around 3-3,5 mio in a python.

for a similar proft per t cargo i need to find two matching systems in the right states, and do 8-10 traderuns ~ depending on distance of stations to entry point, that's 1-1,5 hours ~ aba trading. filling a mining python (with 3 mining lasers and 9 active collector limpets) takes less time, but not much less.

 

[Kastor]

1. Why would you not want to refine something? You're refinary has 10 bins (presuming you're in a Cobra 4 or bigger). Refine everything, it all counts toward the engineer.
1a. You can. You're mining scanners have a 1km radius and requires weapons capacity to operate, you can then use the same item to actually mine the asteroid, it's very functional.
Seriously though, just fill up on limpets, you'll often fill up as fast as you use them as long as you're not too picky and you want to be using prospectors anyway as they increase asteroid yield.
2... just uh... close your cargo hatch and drive away? Maybe blow up the cans if it's really bothering you that much.


Also, pick up lots of Osmium Phasidium and Salmarian (spelling?) as the missions you can easily find for them make them worth as much as platinum.

 

[Siranui]

Maybe if you have a mining cutter or you happen to fall very lucky with what missions you can pick up after you mine stuff. I've never seen anything close to that. You'd have to be very picky about what you mine in a smaller ship, which means the process would take hours.

Mining IME is really not that profitable compared to other trades. At the same time, it's not particularly difficult, either. So you take your choice, I guess.

I've never mined in anything larger than a Python. That's about 200t, meaning that you need to average 5k per ton to reach a million in one run, which isn't too bad if you are selective, and even easier if one manages to pre-hunt or later find a bunch of mining missions.

 

[bitstorm]

I did this the other day.

My advice is get the biggest ship you can and fit like 4 or more collector limpet modules, have like 12 limpets collecting.

Don't worry too much about cargo, just dump it if need be, disabling limpet modules on the right panel kills you limpets, so disable, dump cargo, then fly a few km then redeploy limpets.

Also after you provide 500T the next stage is she wants a bunch of painite, which of course you have to mine! So while collecting your 500T do it at a pristine metallic rings (Delkar 7A I think has them), that way you do stage 2 while you're doing stage 1.

 

[YinYin]

IDK if a dropship is enough for a multi-million round trip. No matter how much you try to optimize the mining. Believe me, I've spent a few hours and -credits doing that

You'd have to be very picky about what you mine in a smaller ship, which means the process would take hours.

I can make a million within 15 minutes mining painite only in a DBS.

A Dropship is fine if you know how to handle multiple prospectors and what to prioritise.

 

[bubbabenali]

Well the Python is a bit too expensive for now and I don't have the rank for the clipper yet (I had the clipper in mind, tho)
So my options are the AspX and the Dropship.
Both with a A4 refinery two A3 Collectors a small shield an the rast full of cargo.
Its 66 against 100tonns of capacity.
For defence purpose I'd put two mine launchers in and used two med mining lasers.

 

[YinYin]

Sounds good, but you need at least a 1A prospector to boost the fragment yield per asteroid. Better yet a larger module to actually use them for prospecting.

 

[Kizbot]

Heh, Limpets. The most annoying QoL adjustment ever. Them bringing you back cargo you just abandoned makes me laugh. Every. Single. Time.

You can scan the chemical make up of a fragment of the rock in a fraction of a second but the rock it self, which is essentially just a larger version of the small fragment you chipped off, not a chance. Makes perfect sense to me. [wacky]

If it helps, its always worth baring in mind that you can thrust down when the offending limpet is below you, so long as you keep it below 20 ms (I think) you can destroy the fragment or cargo but the limpet survives. Pretty sure if you go over 20 or 30 ms the limpet is destroyed as well. Just watch out for the other space potatoes below you! I do this all the time, after they have finished collecting and they are all waiting below me I jettison anything I dont want and then thrust down slowly to destroy it before they collect it again, then move on to the next.

 

[Spookyy]

I can make a million within 15 minutes mining painite only in a DBS.

A Dropship is fine if you know how to handle multiple prospectors and what to prioritise.

Good luck finding Painite in 15 minutes and even more good luck finding enough for a million in the same 15 minutes. .

 

[Kizbot]

Well the Python is a bit too expensive for now and I don't have the rank for the clipper yet (I had the clipper in mind, tho)
So my options are the AspX and the Dropship.
Both with a A4 refinery two A3 Collectors a small shield an the rast full of cargo.
Its 66 against 100tonns of capacity.
For defence purpose I'd put two mine launchers in and used two med mining lasers.

I used to mine in a T6, It's pretty good at it and cheap too.

https://coriolis.io/outfit/type_6_t...mP1.Iw1-kA==.AwiMI5WyKA==?bn=Modest Mining T6

You have to run from danger but for the price it gets the job done. Only downer is that you can only take 2 small mining lasers.

 

[YinYin]

Good luck finding Painite in 15 minutes and even more good luck finding enough for a million in the same 15 minutes. .

Test runs recorded here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10uYvVnt15mVCqCaMwgw0Fty0FYtA7uhkmZgtbVrwn98/edit#gid=0

I can share before after screenshots at the port for each if you like.

And forward you to several commanders I have helped filling entire large ships with painite rather quickly.

A million is exactly 16 tons at average price.

The key to this is having a high prospecting rate (checking many asteroids per minute).

 

[charognard]

Test runs recorded here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10uYvVnt15mVCqCaMwgw0Fty0FYtA7uhkmZgtbVrwn98/edit#gid=0

I can share before after screenshots at the port for each if you like.

And forward you to several commanders I have helped filling entire large ships with painite rather quickly.

A million is exactly 16 tons at average price.

The key to this is having a high prospecting rate (checking many asteroids per minute).

Don't talk about the miners secrets traitor ! Let them think mining is useless and for fool only