Yeah, but I'd avoid it altogether. They're saying nice things about people in it. That's just so British...
2.2 is rather a disappointment
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Yeah, but I'd avoid it altogether. They're saying nice things about people in it. That's just so British...
The question I think he needs to answer is whether he'd do the missions if they didn't pay out anything. If they were as much fun as he claims, then he would do them regardless. I'm thinking that they're not as much "fun" now they don't pay as much...
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Overall, i'm liking 2.2. I love the fighters, the new witchspace loading screen, and the recently found ruins. I absolutely hate the passenger missions though, sick of being ordered to detour and it seems some of the beacons are bugged. Unfortunately it looks like Fdev REALLY want us doing these passenger missions because they're the only good non exploitative source of credits left.
Not so. I'm more than happy to criticise FD where appropriate, and there sure is lots of stuff that makes no sense (NPCs spawning out of nowhere?) or makes no sense (POI blue circle mechanic) or is implemented badly (open mission board multiple times to "get the right mission reward", etc.)
This is no such case. And I say that seeing people who just picked up ED and are already flying a ship that took me months to get in ED 1.x...
If you kill lots of dudes from one team, no wonder they send a cleaner after you. Well done FD, this works exactly how it should. And typically, cleaners don't have lots of unpaid parking tickets, so the small bounty makes sense too.
You wanna make easy money? Take the right passenger mission, pays 15 millions for three hours of travel at zero risk (unless you have a wanted passenger of course). Can't do passenger missions yet? Rank up with a faction and cash in the millions for each of their high-payout missions you get after you are friends with them. Can't do that either? Just go bounty hunting. A million in 30 minutes is no problem in the right system, that's 6 million in three hours without needing to buy a super-expensive ship. Heck even the Keelback works as a bounty hunter now.
This is not like when Apple decided that the laws of physics and the principles of antenna design don't apply to them. That didn't work out for them in the end. No, this is really a problem of playstyle.
Some people will always complain, no matter what you do.
Well, I demand that the starter ship is the Anaconda!!!
I don't want to wait for a few hours!!! I earn just a few hundred million per hour, it takes too long!
Well, I demand that the starter ship is the Anaconda!!!
I don't want to wait for a few hours!!! I earn just a few hundred million per hour, it takes too long!
All I can say is you are absolutely right. There isn't anything connecting everything together and it leaves a souless taste in your mouth. Maybe FD could start moving away from this reliance on awful RNG?
If you die five times, you get the option to spawn in the white Tanookieconda.
OP's basis for this thread seems to be a disappointment with massively reduced payouts for the Sothis grindfest.
Not sure why we needed thread number X on the topic, since there were plenty already, but hey ho... anyway,
Rejoice OP - MB has spoken. There's a problem with the payouts. Things should improve again, but not back to the original levels.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ery-Missions?p=4685916&viewfull=1#post4685916
Not sure why we needed thread number X on the topic, since there were plenty already, but hey ho... anyway,
Rejoice OP - MB has spoken. There's a problem with the payouts. Things should improve again, but not back to the original levels.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ery-Missions?p=4685916&viewfull=1#post4685916
No, in the ED universe anything that makes logical sense is scrapped in favour of "gameplay" or "reasons" though probably more along the lines of "We couldn't be bothered to think about it so deal with it"
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sadly i have been banging that drum for ages but it does not seem to make a difference. Some will not accept it is a bug and feel it must be as planned and the future of delivery missions in ED
PS I wish your avatar was an Elite generated character. I would definitely sack my woman for your guy!.
Perhaps you should sit down and understand that other people can have opinions too. We've already had one person admit the passenger missions are "boring" and they've only just come out. What else was added - the new fighters? More shallow content on top of shallow content is the criticism here. I think people are getting fed up because they want FD to start adding some content with meat on it.
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Thinking about it, didn't FDev nerf the challenge of these missions as well? I thiought they were now even easier to do or something is that true?
I gotta admit back then times WERE hard...... not only the above, but repair costs and fuel costs actually made me sweat as well.
(god I just wrote a "when I were a lad all we got for Christmas were a lump of coal and if we were lucky a satsuma!" type post
Nobody would play that game now - ED players would leave in droves if it went back to that but that's what FD thought was acceptable back then. They keep getting it wrong and wrong and their beta "testing" is awful.
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My comment was about the fourms here and what they are like and he isn't wrong, not in the slightest. I'm not saying his posts in this thread haven't been bad though, I'm replying to that single point
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A problem of playstyles...as in the way I want to play isn't the right way according to others here...sorta contradicts the "play your own way" mantra. Appreciate the alternative choices, but thats not playing my own game, thats playing the game how others think is right...and thats what I take exception to.
The balance was wrong then..... and it was wrong in 2.1 imo - for different reasons.
in 1.0 imo the balance was perfect for the starting ships, there is NOTHING wrong with it taking 50hrs play time imo to work your way through the sidewinder/eagle/hauler/adder/cobra/T6 ships imo.
the problem was it just did not scale well... you kind of had to trade to make any money and with the launch levels and costs of maintaining the larger ships then no one could ever have afforded a cutter for instance.
however now its too much the other way imo - 2.1 was even worse
if i steal 2 kills from police in a RES or do 1 skimmer kill mission or power down generator mission i can go straight from E rated sidey to a cobra and then in a few hrs get to a vulture and beyond.... however once you get to said vulture, then the game is balance quite well imo in 2.2. (forgetting that delivery missions are currently bugged I am assuming they will be fixed)
so i would say 1.0 Elite dangerous was balanced well for ships up to and including the cobra
2.2 Elite dangerous is generally balanced quite well imo for ships Vulture and beyond.
the trick is whether FD can somehow balance the game to keep the cheaper ships relavent and not something we just fly for fun, but no actual in game logical reason to exist, whilst still making the big expensive ships possible to achieve. (for role play, who would honestly risk their meat suit in an eagle if they had access to a vulture???)
Its not that i think there is a right and wrong play style..... but ED back in the day was marketed as a game to have a functional and believable economy... imo no believable economy is based around the richest people in the universe making their money as manure haulers.... and no believable economy would have a player earning enough money from the worse flyable ship in the game to something super capable in minutes
(in ED a jump from a sidewinder to a cobra is like the modern day jump from a motorboat to a luxury speed boat imo - and the anaconda is the air craft carrier)
I welcome anyone to disagree and counter my thoughts... but please try to do it without resorting to insults and flaming
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It's hard for less flexibel and relaxed types to have game-mechanics change two or three times a year... payouts, AI-capability, interdiction-difficulty, weapon-balance, waves of new engineers, ...
New content is fine, but having to find a new balance for existing content each update to adapt to scatches on my nerves a bit too.
New content is fine, but having to find a new balance for existing content each update to adapt to scatches on my nerves a bit too.
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