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Special Treatment & Favouritism?
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There are CGs handing out decals? Then anyone can join and get one if they participate can't they?We can agree to disagree.No, I feel giving basic decals in CGs is favoritism when every should get those. I take the risks like everyone else that signs up for a power. But for the father, nothing?
How a about a "Decalls for All" CG. Every tier releases a decall to be used for anyone. 8 Tiers, so 8 possible unlockable decalls which after that are free to use to anyone.
Communism baby yeah!
You rather set the tone in your original post, I'm afraid. Maybe if you had couched in the language of neutrality or positivism, instead of having a go at FD for doing something nice for people and knocking people and organisations who have done a lot for the community it would be different.
"Hey, wouldn't it be great if FD expanded their group decals to a wider audience? Wouldn't that be cool? What can we do to help this along? Maybe if we got some of those sewn patches done for ourselves?"
How hard would that have been?
As it was, it was incredibly negative and bitter, as well as resentful. You also revealed that you had already had a chat about FD about it in confidence but because the official answer was not one you liked, you are bringing it to the mob. That is not cool, either.
Then you asked us what we thought of it. Some people have said it was negative and bitter. That's not a personal kicking; that's fair response. You've thrown some poop on the floor and asked us what poop smells like. We say 'poop' and you admonish us for using the word 'poop'.
Obviously, FDev makes that decision. That you know people who put a tremendous amount of time and energy into the game, isn't the determining factor of anything, ever.
It's objectionable because you are asking FDev to drop their idea of fair in favour of yours. 'Treated equally' is objectionable because it supposes we are all the same, all putting the same effort in to the same things. We aren't now, and never will be. The criteria for recognition & rewards should be decided by FDev, not by your pseudo-communist sentiment.
You know you want to... it's practically the weekend...
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I understand the OPs position, I can see how this thread might go downhill but it's worth considering that it's only the same as any other industry. There will always be "preferred" customers who get special treatment. That may be in the form of entertainment perks or rebate deals. It doesn't reflect t on your custom just that from a sales perspective some things make sense.
It would be nice to have the option to decal my ship more to reflect achievements and alliegences but in all fairness I change my flags so often it would become a chore for me personally. I think I would like a better Piracy mechanic first.
It would be nice to have the option to decal my ship more to reflect achievements and alliegences but in all fairness I change my flags so often it would become a chore for me personally. I think I would like a better Piracy mechanic first.
Well obviously the decision is made by FDev internally and that is up to them how.
It's not a question of favouritism, FDev are trying to include as many groups as possible.
How do you suggest that every player is treated equally? I don't object to what you are saying, I just don't see how you propose this could work?
Can you provide a specific example of where someone has been left out of an opportunity to be included?
LOL @Shar. But Ziggy remember that CG that only made the huge weapons available to those that participated in it? Guess what changed FDs mind when they said the decision was FINAL? Whining, and the OP is not whining here.
Ah, decals, such a dissapointing topic. I really don't mind that they do decals for some groups doing something cool like distant world, Fuelrats and whatnot. What does bother me is that they only make those exclusive decals and don't do any decals for a normal peasant like me. Last time they did that was the ones on the Cobra Onienhead Paintjob and that was a long time ago.
A bit of love for commoners here and there couldn't hurt, I'm even willing to pay for it and I don't think I'm the only one.
A bit of love for commoners here and there couldn't hurt, I'm even willing to pay for it and I don't think I'm the only one.
But the OP isn't just talking about decals though.
I 100% don't like it at all. It gives those in receipt the impression that they have some kind of ownership of game elements to the detriment of everyone else. Which is a distinct impression I get from some threads.
We all paid to play and some shelled out a lot more than others I might add.
I 100% don't like it at all. It gives those in receipt the impression that they have some kind of ownership of game elements to the detriment of everyone else. Which is a distinct impression I get from some threads.
We all paid to play and some shelled out a lot more than others I might add.
All I can say to this is
Come up with a way the ED community can interact with the game in a beneficial way, eg distant worlds, waldo's fish CG, etc etc etc and maybe you'll be the one getting the special decal.
Me? very early on I asked for a bubble wide war to destroy the empire and all I got was shot down at Lugh. [sad]
Bill
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You think OP will be happy with a Tier1, when others are getting Tier8? 'Fairness' thread incoming...
Yes. Bethesda / Zenimax handed out achievement badges for people that took part in certain Quake Live tournaments and for one competition they put the names of all the clans that took part on a plaque in an obscure part of a new map they released. I know this, cos we were one of those clans, and while it was a meaningless gesture in some ways it still gives me a warm feeling
Giving out trinkets as rewards for participating in group events seems laudable to me. You refer to other 'special' treatment that some players are getting which sounds like a different matter - I'd be interested in seeing your evidence.
I really don't think giving some groups something here and there is the problem, the reason it becomes a problem for many is that they only do that. If they would do some decals available for everybody here and there I don't think anybody would care about what certain groups are getting.
People tend to get a bit y when they all the time see others getting stuff without getting something for themselfs, throw them a bone here and there and most will be happy.
People tend to get a bit y when they all the time see others getting stuff without getting something for themselfs, throw them a bone here and there and most will be happy.
Thanks you. lol
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But there are already Decals for everybody, surely?
There are our wings, and there are occasional things like Pax decals, which anyone can click on a web page in order to get.
And 'everybody' could even get one of the existing 'group' decals *by joining the group*.
If it hurts so much that the Fuel Rats have a decal, maybe join the Fuel Rats?
Personally speaking the decals don't bother me at all but some of the other points concerning group influence do. The direction of the game both in the here and now and the short and long term future should not in my opinion be overly influenced by x,y or z group(s).
Over saturation of game focus in terms of story direction, CG's, Galnet and more in relation to groups needs to be carefully monitored. There are certain groups in the Elite sphere that seem to have way too much game focus and limelight in my opinion, to the extent that certain elements of the community feel somewhat excluded both in terms of focus and gameplay elements. If these groups were just having their '15 minutes of fame' as it were then no problem, but it is more than that, it seems to be a constant focus that is overly influencing Elite Dangerous the game and carrying the favour of the developers.
Over saturation of game focus in terms of story direction, CG's, Galnet and more in relation to groups needs to be carefully monitored. There are certain groups in the Elite sphere that seem to have way too much game focus and limelight in my opinion, to the extent that certain elements of the community feel somewhat excluded both in terms of focus and gameplay elements. If these groups were just having their '15 minutes of fame' as it were then no problem, but it is more than that, it seems to be a constant focus that is overly influencing Elite Dangerous the game and carrying the favour of the developers.
No there are not.
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