Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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idk, totally random imho, got 27 epsilon (theoretically much rare), 6 beta...

but what if any "stream" of pattern released by each rock is a message to be joined with all the other data streamed to the same cmdr till he scanned all active rocks? Will try next time I log in

I meant the actual cargo. Data is seemingly random
 
This kind of thing is where I REALLY wish we had good space legs, with hand tools. Imagine hopping out of the SRV with picks and shovels, and digging down to see what's hidden beneath thousands of years of sedimentation. And there HAS to have been atmo at that planet...an airless world would never have the structures weathered and worn down like that, since there's nothing TO weather them in a vacuum.
 
Hi guys
Here is a video of the clock under the ruin (saw it on reddit)
[video=youtube_share;NkGPdci04m4]https://youtu.be/NkGPdci04m4[/video]
For me, its look like a conjonction timer...

Im on the search of a possible second site in COL 173 sector, i spent a few hours inquiring on 3A and 15G, but by scanning all the planets, i think the closest one is *** (sry, i forgot and close the game, will edit) (maybe 9A), because its variable are the system's closest from the first acient base's planet (0.13G, 300K°).
The closest to thosse values is 9A, with 0.13G and 277 K°.
That's maybe a wrong way, but it looks correct to search same condition for same specy
(sry for my eng, im french !!)

EDITED i mean planet 9A, not 5A, doesnt even exist :D
 
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Hello Commanders,

first I want to congratulate xdeath and the rest of the community to this awesome finding! I have seen that we are already at the stage of understanding the structure as a map to someplace else again. We have done the same thing in countless theories with the picture of the unkown probe and in the end it was some sort of picture of an ammonia molecule. Maybe this site is also some form of elemental puzzle. Ammonia for example has a "Trigonal pyramidal molecular geometry" and we have lots of pyramidal structures on the planet. Maybe the big dot above the smaller one at the left side are atoms and the ring like shapings around it are outer and inner shells of atoms with electrons or something. I´m afraid I´m not clever enough to make anything of it, but maybe some genius from the community can make something out of it in the ongoing process.

Oh, and if there´s more interest into reading the structure as some sort of map: There is the "Winter Hexagon" star constellation consisting of Rigel, Aldebaran, Capella, Pollux, Procyon, and Sirius as stars in each corner: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hexagon; German Version https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wintersechseck . I hope we find something soon!
 
Absolutely. The layout of the site might be representative of constellations or system positions; though it is tricky to map from a 2D layout to a 3D universe.

It is actually possible that lines/mounds in the site do point to a certain point in the sky, but it would be time-sensitive. It could be something like: if the two circles in the site represent that pair of planets, then if you stand in the middle of the larger circle (representing the planet you're on) and the smaller planet is over the smaller circle, then some line in the ruins represents the direction you need to look.

Yep. I really do think that the ruins is a stellar map, and after a bit of amateurish paintshop work, I'm more convinced now than ever.

Let's look at the mock up I posted earlier (thanks to hhiram for the original aerial view):

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Now, my hunch is that IF the ruins are a stellar map, then it needs reference points in order to make it legible. If the large landing pad represents the site of the current discovered ruins, Synuefe xr-h d11-102, and IF the smaller landing pad is a second ruins site like the first one, AND if we go with the theory that a second ruins site must be in system Col 173 Sector KY-Q d5-47 as hinted at by Frontier's trailer (thanks to some great detective work by commanders in this thread), then this is how the architecture of the ruins lays out over top of a map of the galaxy (please excuse my horrid paintshop skills!):

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NOW, looking at this a few things become apparent:

1. The thick blue cross lines in my sketch represent the X and Y axis of the galaxy, which just happen to line up perfectly with the very big ridge that juts out from the large landing pad at the alien site representing X, and the shorter big ridge that runs perpendicular to it representing Y. They line up perfectly.

2. Regarding the line that hhiram said pointed straight at Merope (one ridge of the wedge), if it is not meant to be a vector from the planet's surface but instead meant to be a galactic vector from the system itself, then the two lines represented by the smaller ridges coming off the large landing pad do indeed directly point to some major stellar objects. In my sketch, the red line points directly to either the Witchhead Nebula, the Barnard's Loop area, or possibly the Cone Nebula past them both. The green line, or the upper ridge from the large landing pad, directly points to either the Flaming Star Nebula or possibly the Triad of the North cluster.


Now, if I am right, and this is a map, AND there is a second set of ruins in Col 173 Sector KY-Q d5-47 waiting to be found, then I predict that this second set of ruins will look very much like this:

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It will be set up similarly to the first set, but from the perspective of Col 173 Sector KY-Q d5-47 where the large landing pad will represent that system, the small pad will represent Synuefe xr-h d11-102, and the large ridge will run same as in the first ruins BUT the shorter large ridge will go the opposite direction, and the smaller ridge wedge coming out of the large pad will point as I've shown in a whole new direction, with one ridge pointing (possibly) to Barnard's Loop and the other (possibly) to the Flaming Star Nebula.

That's my theory on the meaning of the ruins. Now as to what the obelisks and stuff on the inside of the ruins mean, they may just be more information or vectors telling us distances or marking other stellar objects for reference. Possibly.
 
Awesome theory !!
I forget in my last post, i play in open , and saw no one, how can i find the coordination center of cannon explorers ?
 
So the lower 'circle centre' could be Ghost of Jupiter.
That was one of my first expeditions, I was really hoping to get my name on that one (Agony Aunt has it I believe :( ).
It's a planetary nebula, so only one system. Could be worth another visit then.
 
The ruins were found by chance. The developers conceived the other way. Perhaps this is the problem? What a way to find the ruins meant to be?
 

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Could it be those ground areas, they light up when a CMDR gets within 20m, perhaps they are linked to the obelisks too.

I am guessing you have tried this though.

Do you know we didn't, I can't believe I didn't think of that at the time. However I'm now 99% convinced the 2 and then 3 at a time I saw was an instancing bug. I went back into Open, into an instance with lots of people and checked and there was indeed 2 again. I drove to a different small set (the one with just 3), logged out and back in again, back into the same instance and there were 2 where I logged in. When I drove back to the other set, there was only 1. I drove to a third set, logged out and managed to log into an empty instance, only 1 lit. Logged out in the same place and back in to a populated instance, 2 lit.

Damnit! ;)

However it's not all potentially doom and gloom as we're almost positive they move!

As I was sat in Open I heard the sound of one of the 2 lit ones powering down after you scan it, jumped into Debug cam to see one of them turn off and then a couple of seconds after a different one powered on. Someone in Open without provocation then mentioned that they sometimes move around when there's lots of people around, then when I was talking about it in Discord, Mykl said that he was sure that some of the ones he was now sat at had changed from earlier.

So could they actually have time based movement but because normally we scan them straight away after we activate them for the first time, we don't see the fact they move...

Test in progress.
 
"Mysterious" rotating things under the "Ancient Beacon"

[video=youtube;1d3KxsJgcE8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d3KxsJgcE8[/video]
Recorded on an old laptop.

They are needed for the turning animation of 3 beacon pieces on top (during the beacon's rising), and for the turning animation of the Ancient Relic (when the beacon has risen). Pieces above and below the ground are considered as one object (4 objects actually), so when things under the ground are turning, pieces on top turn too.
 
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I'm surmising that the Relics need to be kept in the Beacons they spring from the ground in. I was testing the theory that they were power sources and then activating the nearest obelisks to see if anything happened. On the fourth and final one I crashed. Will try and replicate.
 
It's been triangulated from the Meet Elite Event video. I'm there right now but without some moon to identify It's probably a lost cause.

Yeah, I flew there this morning, it's a big system with lots of landable moons, some of which are fairly big too. There just were't enough reference points in the video to really nail down which planetary body the footage came from. The system does seem to line up with the stars and nebula perfectly though, so I do believe it is the correct system, assuming there is anything there at all of course.
 
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