Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

[BDC]

Not sure how much of this is known, but I did some testing just now:

- While the three UA's were eating at my ship, I went into orbit and ejected them, one at a time.
- They each degraded in space rather rapidly.
- They all produced that same audio pattern I recorded and uploaded earlier.
- Each one I ejected scanned my ship.
- When I blew one up with the mining laser, it "screamed".
- The death of all 3 produced that unknown material.

B

 

[Ozric]

Not sure how much of this is known, but I did some testing just now:

- While the three UA's were eating at my ship, I went into orbit and ejected them, one at a time.
- They each degraded in space rather rapidly.
- They all produced that same audio pattern I recorded and uploaded earlier.
- Each one I ejected scanned my ship.
- When I blew one up with the mining laser, it "screamed".
- The death of all 3 produced that unknown material.

B

Feel free to test away as it is always good to go over old ground to make sure nothing has changed, but I suggest (as mammoth as it is ) a reading of the front page, as there's a whole section to each of the UA/UP/Barnacle/Ruins

 

[EAGLE 5]

Thanks for the response, Eagle 5. Here's my next question: Is what's listed in older Elite lore considered canonical for ED? In other words, can we know for certain this is Thargoid?

This is a Yes and No. So far what has been said about Thargoids in Elite and both Frontiers is canon. No we don't know for sure this is Thargoid this is purely speculation on our/my part. It LOOKS Thargoid by what we know but Frontier has not acknolwedged, confirmed or denied it. We'll just have to find out. I do believe that there may be a third party here that is neither Human nor Thargoid that is at play... and I actually speculated they might be causing trouble for both races.. again this is purely my speculation. As of the end of Frontier First Encounters... Thargoids disappeared and haven't been seen for whatever reason. Then there is the historical alien artifact of Mars which was not of Thargoid origin...

 

[BDC]

Feel free to test away as it is always good to go over old ground to make sure nothing has changed, but I suggest (as mammoth as it is ) a reading of the front page, as there's a whole section to each of the UA/UP/Barnacle/Ruins

I'm guessing this is nothing new, then. Well, there's something to be said about consistency - at least things are consistent!

Has anyone done an analysis of the audio before? If not, I uploaded a couple lengthy recordings of it to my Google Drive earlier.

B

 

[Han_Zen]

Not sure how much of this is known, but I did some testing just now:

- While the three UA's were eating at my ship, I went into orbit and ejected them, one at a time.
- They each degraded in space rather rapidly.
- They all produced that same audio pattern I recorded and uploaded earlier.
- Each one I ejected scanned my ship.
- When I blew one up with the mining laser, it "screamed".
- The death of all 3 produced that unknown material.

B

It's known in minute detail.

We had plenty of time to test back when the UA was the only mystrious thing in the game.

 

[BDC]

I just noticed something, and it might be nothing - Crash Site #2 is situated on an airless, low gravity (0.09g) moon, which is part of a pair of twin rocky moons, which are both satellites of a ringed gas giant of the same type as the Alien Ruins Site 1.

 

[CookieJarviz]

Do you know *exactly* what they look like? Or is all the knowledge on thargoids more speculative rather than concrete?

It has 8 sides. just like a thargoid ship. it is insectoid. just like a thargoid ship

 

[NovaXeros]

So I'm just thinking about the ruins for a moment, and I'm thinking of those outside walls.

They're a hexagon, which mathematically lines up with the triangles and other multiples of 3 we keep seeing across the base.

3. 3 Dimensions. What if that's NOT a hexagon, and is actually a 2D representation of a 3D space. If you imagine the intersecting line, does it not suddenly look like a cuboid?

A few lines are also parallel with this, indicating they could be related to certain aspects, or key indicators of direction?

Could this possibly be a starmap to Raxxla? I don't think Raxxla was ever linked to the Thargoids as being theres, just that it was an ancient world with interdimensional portals that the Dark Wheel exploited for multiversal riches and power.

Perhaps this is the race that built Raxxla, and they're showing whoever finds this the way.

Why else would you build walls with supporting structures behind them if they weren't for defenses? What if this is all part of a symbol drawn to space faring races that find it in the future. They leave snippets of their ancient race for those that find them, such as the urn and casket, and they leave data on their civilisation for those that learn their language, but the overall site seems to house no function - its just a very specific shape and form.

And if you were going to build a starmap using the ground that perhaps wouldn't get seen for millions of years, you certainly wouldn't put it on a planet with an atmosphere that would erode and weather the site down in just a few hundred, would you. So this being on non-atmospheric planet, having no visible function, the walls being pointless and having no official entrance and exit. It's perfect.

Addendum: It reminds me of the scene in the Stargate film, where Jackson explains that in order to plot a course you need 6 points (drawn as a cube and the destination being in the centre of the cube), and a 7th point, being the point of origin.

If this map isn't plotting a course, but showing us the destination, then everything we need could be right there, we just need to know how to translate it.

 

[Red Anders]

That's not what you said few minutes ago, worked for me, figured it worth sharing anyway

Edit :: I should point out.. the sound I followed was extremely quiet!

I probably phrased this badly for which I apologise. Here's my comment again:.

IIt loses signals for a start, you can find say an outcrop on the scanner, drive towards it with the signal dead centre and watch it get smaller and stronger like it used to do as you approached the outcrop, to the point where it just disappears completely whilst still dead centre and with absolutely nothing in view.

I can only assume you read the part where I said 'as you approached the outcrop' as me meaning it was actually there. What I meant was 'as you approach the place where the wave scanner is telling you it is supposed to be'. Or 'where it would have been using the wave scanner before it got borked in 2.2' if you prefer. Sorry, I was posting in a bit of a hurry as I was leaving the office.

I do appreciate you were trying to help but I've had variously:

• normal behaviour - get a wave scanner signal, drive to it, stuff is there
• half broken - get a signal, drive to it, watch the signal vanish but something is there
• different half broken - get signal, drive to it, wave scanner visual signal vanishes but sound is still present and guides you to the source which is nearby but not where the signal indicated before it vanished (the behaviour you described)
• totally borked - drive to signal, both visual and audio sigals vanish, nothing in sight at all

The only signals that seem to stay resolved on the scanner pretty much every time are mesosiderites, anything else is roll 1 d20 and pray.

There's also a bug report thread about it where other commanders describe all of the above. It's hugely irritatiing because it seems to be a complete lottery now whether it's worth following a trace on the scanner or not.

 

[kpc118]

I found an Unknown Fragment .... new manufactured material!!! Are these what you get when you break an Artefact?

 

[jimbeau1571]

Sorry I'm new to all this mysteries thing, and there is certainly a lot of it to be trying to get your head around.

But one thing has grabbed my interest and intrigue ...... the 5 bases on the way to Jaques, and Jaques itself. Why those 5 locations, in Nebula? They aren't exactly in a straight line of travel from the bubble.
Why has Jaques remained where it is and no effort been made to propel it to what should have been it's destination?
Why, given all the effort and time invested in building Jaques, sending it on it's way and then the losing and finding of it, did we miraculously get 5 quick bases?

Bearing in mind that FD don't do anything in this game with regards to the 'story' for no reason, am I reading more to this than I should be do you think?

 

[CMDR MRMAURICE]

I found an Unknown Fragment .... new manufactured material!!! Are these what you get when you break an Artefact?

Yup, Palin requires them to unlock him, after the first two requirements are met that is

 

[BDC]

Some orbital cruise (SC) and normal space autopilot functions such as maintaining current velocity, heading, and angle of attack, sure would be nice right about now.

 

[EAGLE 5]

I found an Unknown Fragment .... new manufactured material!!! Are these what you get when you break an Artefact?

This doesn't surprise me. if you've seen the recently released artwork digital book it shows a UA that is broken and you can' sort of see inside of it. Looks like rounded canisters in the head part is that what you're seeing?

 

[rizal72]

front page is quite unclear to me... After finding the Syneufe ruins what is our main focus now ?

The main focus?
PLAY THE GAME.
The FrontPage is not there to tell you what to do: it's purpose is to keep track of all the mess and to put it in an "ordered" way. Mostly.
Then YOU DECIDE what to do with it.

 

[kpc118]

Unknown Artefacts at the alien wreck still point towards Merope

Spoiler

http://images.akamai.steamuserconte...800/43F6637D768D7759E6D37CE0BDBBEB0ADE10AF03/

 

[John Rhys]

Just a quick question - did anyone else notice, that the Antenna behind the (presumed) Prism is exactly in the middle point of the Tetrahedron? And since you can use a Prism to reflect the light (and be broken into it's colours) - can we get the sand off of those sides....? Probably not...

 

[Cmdr Amtrelwi]

Hello everyone,

Kind of a noob on the forums thread, I hope my message is not misplace. It is great to read you, but I couldn't find (yes i didn't look that close) a post related to what i am thinking about.

I just need to put my mind at ease. All the underground elements moving under the Pilars at the site are only animation items for the dev? Or should we look into them more closely? They are two layers of them under each pilar. Maybe it could aline with some constellations.

You can see what i mean in the video there: view through a pilar on Alien ruins site..

07

 

[AlexVII]

The Ruins Map update 3

"The Ruins Map v3.0"

Now with ULTRA HD ground! Almost killed my laptop but it was worth it. (Does anyone have a spare HeatSink?)

Spoiler

But that only took me 20 min to reaffirm. I was calculating the angles for "light beams":

Spoiler

As I said before, unfortunately there are many deliberately destroyed key parts of Ruins. Especially where there could be mirrors.

But if you want to try and draw the beams yourself, here is a clean version:

Spoiler

I hope it wasn't just some Ancient light show...

 

[Ozric]

Another 40t of Ancient Artifacts dropped off at Canonn Institute. There was a cruise ship flying around A 1 giving people a tour

Sorry I'm new to all this mysteries thing, and there is certainly a lot of it to be trying to get your head around.

But one thing has grabbed my interest and intrigue ...... the 5 bases on the way to Jaques, and Jaques itself. Why those 5 locations, in Nebula? They aren't exactly in a straight line of travel from the bubble.
Why has Jaques remained where it is and no effort been made to propel it to what should have been it's destination?
Why, given all the effort and time invested in building Jaques, sending it on it's way and then the losing and finding of it, did we miraculously get 5 quick bases?

Bearing in mind that FD don't do anything in this game with regards to the 'story' for no reason, am I reading more to this they I should be do you think?

1. Because Nebula are pretty and have already been established to be linked to some of the mysterious things in the game, so it would be easier to add more things around these locations

2. Because people are going to need somewhere to retreat to when the inevitable happens and people try to shoot the aliens on first contact and they wreak havoc on the original bubble.

3. Jaques had been around for a very long time before he decided to try and jump to Beagle Point. He used to travel around the bubble and a dedicated few used to follow him around. Though he was grossly underused and discarded to the wayside for a long time before his latest journey. In game the stations drives (among other things) have been badly damaged and so they need to be repaired (hence all the CGs).

And as to why we miraculously got 5 quick bases?

That's the easiest question to answer.

Winter is coming!