Sorry folks, I was wrong. Wrong system name, in fact doesnt exist. I was confused with Dryu Airg. FSD myopia.
So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)
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Chawing on "core of the problem", one core problem is secrets and everything is hidden so we don't have the information we need.
Though aspect of it can be seen from many locations in the epilog is says "the coordinates" appeared at the end of the message so can we at least assume that's coordinates to a specific system where the view for whatever it is, is best?
In terms of likely suspects for pulling all the strings of the tapestry from behind I think the INRA is suspect number one. Firstly their remit was to deal with the Thargoids and things alien in general, they have a history of jealously protecting their secrets and power, they didn't go away when the threat had passed, have probably become self-funding so they aren't beholden to any of the alliances or powers and their name is noticeably absent from galnet and discussions even though they're likely culprits in many of the major events. The Dark Wheel looks like frat boys playing D&D compared to them. INRA knows whats out there, because dealing with it has always been their job.
If history is any lesson the Dark Wheel is a smoke screen, an INRA front setup to distract, dismiss and entertain pesky conspiracy theory loons.
Just arrived at the rift (for the 3rd time), i'm going to spend some time here exploring, since the new update didn't get me to excited. if anybody has any new idea, feel free to tell me and i'll check it out
Wasn't the clue "less nebulous"? Maybe that means we should be looking in the smaller of the two?
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First time post, so go easy on me... I've been following this and noticed something. Someone mentioned we know in a very very vague sense the where, but we don't know the what or the why. Why did she go thousands of ly beyond the rift? With all the hubbub of the UA/UP/shipwrecks/archeology/etc, it can be supposed there is or was life out there.
What about the how? Did she have a top of the line cobra? Is there any consensus of the range for her ship? She needed to scoop stars, and perhaps I missed it before, but the routes can be planned by omitting stars that can't be scooped. Has anyone found a route through that has plenty of scoopable stars close enough for a well equipped cobra?
I'm still 5kyl from H&S... Hope the rift isn't that scary.
What about the how? Did she have a top of the line cobra? Is there any consensus of the range for her ship? She needed to scoop stars, and perhaps I missed it before, but the routes can be planned by omitting stars that can't be scooped. Has anyone found a route through that has plenty of scoopable stars close enough for a well equipped cobra?
I'm still 5kyl from H&S... Hope the rift isn't that scary.
Assuming that you are referring to "The Old Woman" when you say "She" and not Kahina ... what we know about her ship is that it was an "Apocalypse Engineering" model Cobra Mk III. This thing is an antique by 3302 standards. Based on the fact that the image of the woman in the holofac during Reclamation's epilogue depicted her as being much younger than she was when Kahina met her at the hospital I think it is safe to assume that the "Old Woman" made her journey before the current frame shift drive technology was made available to the public.
This makes it very difficult to estimate just what kind of jump range her old Cobra was capable of. There has been no consensus at all regarding what kind of jump range her ship would have been capable of.
As above, but also, consider that the old woman's own clues are conflicting. she says she got to the rift in one part of the story (in the hospital), and say no one goes beyond and come back, and yet, her other clue (found in the hacked files later) she says you need to find a way through, and go beyond. Ther eis also the "follow the RR line until the stars thin out, then keep going" clue. So really, it's all a bit vague to begin with.
As for jump range of her Cobra... It's even more vague. 7LY was the limit of those times, lore wise, anyway, but the lore has been changed, so we are kinda clueless. Most would suggest about 20-25LY, and my own guess would be about that, and the fit out of a Cobra MKIII I would have taken to the 'Rift in Gamma, had I known of the mystery then, would have been about 23LY.
As for scary - not at all. Or at least, not yet...
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Literally all we know is i) it's not a single point of interest, ii) at least some of the powers want to cover it up and iii) the nature of this thing would not be obvious, even if we knew where it was and went out to observe it.
The rest is speculation, but we can infer from ii) that it is something powerful and/or dangerous and that they would rather we didn't poke the bear, which as far as we know has been minding it's own business. There was some hint that if we have been visiting bright stars etc we may already have seen some aspects of it, but whether it can influence astronomical bodies or just hangs out in certain types we don't know.
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Can also mean Indistinct or vague. I took it as meaning this than a smaller Nebula.
So in a nutshell it's like looking for a black cat in a dark room
No. We are looking for a very specific needle in a haystack filled with billions of needles.
The problem, as I see it, is that in order to solve the mystery we have to know if "what our senses are telling us" are real or not. Let me explain:
In the real world if you looked into space and saw an entire nebula blink out of existence you'd be concerned that you were going a little crazy. Until you found out that other people experienced the same thing. At this point you'd yell, "Eureka!" because you found something AMAZING! When we saw this happening in the game we thought maybe we'd finally found the answer, or at least the beginning of the answer. An entire nebula blinking out of existence depending on where you attempted to view it from! This fit a LOT of the clues. It was, however, eventually confirmed to be just a bug.
We literally can't believe our senses because we don't know the difference between what we're intended to see and what we are actually seeing. Because bugs.
Legacy_LuckyLuke
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CoR attack on Patreus' flagship is officially reported in GalNet: https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/581c69b99657ba334b4f319e
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This is sadly true. Doesn't stop us speculating though
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This is sadly true. Doesn't stop us speculating though
Good work CoR!
This is sadly true. Doesn't stop us speculating though
Oh, I'm not sore about it. Bugs happen, it's the nature of the medium. From a narrative POV though I like a nice in-universe explanation. Like this:
Space madness overtakes the EAFOTS sector. It began with one pilot. He blinked and could swear that an entire nebula disappeared from view. After reporting what he thought he'd seen the space madness spread via word of mouth among pilots. The reports began piling in. Each new report spawned 5 or 10 more. Doctors and astrographers all agree: They're totally bonkers
Didn't Drew also mention that with Guardians there are 'enhancements' to whatever is out there? Do you recall the specifics about visiting bright stars? It seems to me the B stars around the Heart and Soul appear much brighter than before though it slipped my mind I upgrade my video card and am running at higher resolution than the last time I passed this way. Course things look better, d'oh.
The bright stars thing,,,wasn't that in response to Muetdhiver investigating neutron stars, flying perpendicular to the orbital plane and have a look back at it? We know neutron stars have been enhanced,,,, could refer to other unknown enhancements,,, makes sense to check the known first,,
CoR attack on Patreus' flagship is officially reported in GalNet: https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/581c69b99657ba334b4f319e
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This is sadly true. Doesn't stop us speculating though
Well, the bottom line is that the old lady found "it", so how difficult can it be to spot "it" once you're in the right area?
CoR attack on Patreus' flagship is officially reported in GalNet: https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/581c69b99657ba334b4f319e
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This is sadly true. Doesn't stop us speculating though
Yeah just read that, too. Interesting wording here. "... Kahina Loren was known for inciting violence, and ..."
What does that tell us regarding how Petraeus thinks about Kahina's status? Does he think she's dead?
That is, unless someone just didn't take great care in phrasing the galnet entry.
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Hi guys,
recent sightings of System Security Ships at the CoR Listening Post Alpha by a CoR Patrol has created some curiosity.
The Listening Posts have been explored and presented to the Children of Raxxla in April 3302 by Salomé herself. Situated on the border of the Formidine Rift they are supposed to be a staging area for patrols going back and forth between them. The initial patrols did not bring about any significant findings so they were called home in June. The following EAFOTS-Expedition in August was unsuccessful either. However there are still CoR vessels patrolling in the area .
We are entirely aware that this sightings could be based on unintentional placement of these surface POIs (OOC "bugs") but what if they are not? We think it might be too early to call for another full-scale expedition. A lot of us are quite tied up in the Bubble due to the fate of Salomé. But we encourage pilots who are still in the area or have time to spare to help our patrols look for a probable base these syssec-ships might be stationed at.
Position of CoR Listening Post Alpha
Position of CoR Listening Post Beta
recent sightings of System Security Ships at the CoR Listening Post Alpha by a CoR Patrol has created some curiosity.
The Listening Posts have been explored and presented to the Children of Raxxla in April 3302 by Salomé herself. Situated on the border of the Formidine Rift they are supposed to be a staging area for patrols going back and forth between them. The initial patrols did not bring about any significant findings so they were called home in June. The following EAFOTS-Expedition in August was unsuccessful either. However there are still CoR vessels patrolling in the area .
We are entirely aware that this sightings could be based on unintentional placement of these surface POIs (OOC "bugs") but what if they are not? We think it might be too early to call for another full-scale expedition. A lot of us are quite tied up in the Bubble due to the fate of Salomé. But we encourage pilots who are still in the area or have time to spare to help our patrols look for a probable base these syssec-ships might be stationed at.
Position of CoR Listening Post Alpha
Position of CoR Listening Post Beta
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From the 2.2 changelog:
- Stop ambient police ships spawning where there shouldn't be any security response
Occam says they didn't fix it after all.
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As spokesman for the Independent Rift Explorers Alliance, I humbly suggest that the Children of Raxxla deal with the fallout from their terrorist actions themselves, without putting yet more innocent lives at risk.
Furthermore, we request that you desist from further military actions in the area of the Rift, and disband your so-called 'listening posts' immediately.
IREA out
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