Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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yclept

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Ericlas said:
Obelisks transmitting Binary/Morse/.../just random noise ?
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The real life Pioneer plaque mentioned previously in the thread, had the rotation periods of it's 14 reference pulsars etched in binary. Units were apparently "multiples of the hyperfine transition period of hydrogen (7.04024183647 x 10-10 sec)".

Stuff about working out what pulsars were on the plaque from the rotation period, over at this guys site: http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/astro/pulsarmap.html

Anyone surveyed any of their favourite rotating neutron stars :D
 

Obnoxious_Gamer

Obnoxious_Gamer
yclept said:
The real life Pioneer plaque mentioned previously in the thread, had the rotation periods of it's 14 reference pulsars etched in binary. Units were apparently "multiples of the hyperfine transition period of hydrogen (7.04024183647 x 10-10 sec)".

Stuff about working out what pulsars were on the plaque from the rotation period, over at this guys site: http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/astro/pulsarmap.html

Anyone surveyed any of their favourite rotating neutron stars :D
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Jacksons's Lighthouse tried to eat my Courier and Anaconda. That's normal, though.

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yclept said:
The real life Pioneer plaque mentioned previously in the thread, had the rotation periods of it's 14 reference pulsars etched in binary. Units were apparently "multiples of the hyperfine transition period of hydrogen (7.04024183647 x 10-10 sec)".

Stuff about working out what pulsars were on the plaque from the rotation period, over at this guys site: http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/astro/pulsarmap.html

Anyone surveyed any of their favourite rotating neutron stars :D
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Jacksons's Lighthouse tried to eat my Courier and Anaconda. That's normal, though.
 

Roberts701

Roberts701
GodBlock said:
What happened with this?
I7Gplqv.png
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EDIT: The above message is related to the abandoned base on HR 5991 Planet 1B

The cordinates are

For PC
33.47
-02.17

For Xbox the cordinates are reversed due to bug so
-02.17
33.47


I am there at the moment scouting the "area" and checking out the local POI's but have found nothing of any significance. "A landed Defence force ship with a few canisters/skimmers/stingers" and another site with "canisters/skimmers".

Will be widening the search and will note cordinates on any finds.
 
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BDC

BDC
Ericlas said:
Obelisks transmitting Binary/Morse/.../just random noise ?

Ahem....I took a trip to the ruins and figured I'd just listen to them, since the audio guys deserve some credit too.
I bet there is a battle between the audio and visual compartment. Anyway.

I recorded and 'spectrogrammed* the ambience...NOTHING, the relics...NOTHING, oh man....the obelisks...NOTHI....Whoa wait! What is this?

Disclaimer:
1. This was only a 3 minute test recording to see if the pattern repeats.
2. I had to cut long pauses out because it otherwise wouldn't have fitted on the screenie (thick vertical red lines)
-> don't dismiss it when your recording doesn't show something at first...there are was a nearly 60 secs pause in my recording
3. I have no clue when it comes to morse/binary/trinary, you name it, I just saw a pattern here that you cannot hear
4. I have raised all towers before and shot off all pillars (don't know if that makes a difference)


I added a screenshot with my audacity settings for you to repeat my test, as well as my camera setting (debug) and the obelisks position (if it makes a difference).

I'm sry but I am limited herewith mobile connection so I cannot upload big audio or video files.
I hope you have everything to reproduce it and give it a few minutes of your time to dismiss it if it is nothing.

Thanks and have fun!

http://i.imgur.com/2qU8SMJ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Jyzo041.jpg
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Coming back out that way to help out and make some recordings at the same obelisk.
 

CMDR Runcible Shaw

CMDR Runcible Shaw
Ericlas said:
Obelisks transmitting Binary/Morse/.../just random noise ?

Ahem....I took a trip to the ruins and figured I'd just listen to them, since the audio guys deserve some credit too.
I bet there is a battle between the audio and visual compartment. Anyway.

I recorded and 'spectrogrammed* the ambience...NOTHING, the relics...NOTHING, oh man....the obelisks...NOTHI....Whoa wait! What is this?

Disclaimer:
1. This was only a 3 minute test recording to see if the pattern repeats.
2. I had to cut long pauses out because it otherwise wouldn't have fitted on the screenie (thick vertical red lines)
-> don't dismiss it when your recording doesn't show something at first...there are was a nearly 60 secs pause in my recording
3. I have no clue when it comes to morse/binary/trinary, you name it, I just saw a pattern here that you cannot hear
4. I have raised all towers before and shot off all pillars (don't know if that makes a difference)


I added a screenshot with my audacity settings for you to repeat my test, as well as my camera setting (debug) and the obelisks position (if it makes a difference).

I'm sry but I am limited herewith mobile connection so I cannot upload big audio or video files.
I hope you have everything to reproduce it and give it a few minutes of your time to dismiss it if it is nothing.

Thanks and have fun!

http://i.imgur.com/2qU8SMJ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Jyzo041.jpg
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This is very cool. Whoever built these ruins even liked sharp geometric lines in their audio, huh? I sort of wish they were triangles, but still cool. The large/small rectangles seem like they might be related to the large/small triangles on the base of the tower thingies.
 

AlienBaby

AlienBaby
Ericlas said:
Obelisks transmitting Binary/Morse/.../just random noise ?

Ahem....I took a trip to the ruins and figured I'd just listen to them, since the audio guys deserve some credit too.
I bet there is a battle between the audio and visual compartment. Anyway.

I recorded and 'spectrogrammed* the ambience...NOTHING, the relics...NOTHING, oh man....the obelisks...NOTHI....Whoa wait! What is this?

Disclaimer:
1. This was only a 3 minute test recording to see if the pattern repeats.
2. I had to cut long pauses out because it otherwise wouldn't have fitted on the screenie (thick vertical red lines)
-> don't dismiss it when your recording doesn't show something at first...there are was a nearly 60 secs pause in my recording
3. I have no clue when it comes to morse/binary/trinary, you name it, I just saw a pattern here that you cannot hear
4. I have raised all towers before and shot off all pillars (don't know if that makes a difference)


I added a screenshot with my audacity settings for you to repeat my test, as well as my camera setting (debug) and the obelisks position (if it makes a difference).

I'm sry but I am limited herewith mobile connection so I cannot upload big audio or video files.
I hope you have everything to reproduce it and give it a few minutes of your time to dismiss it if it is nothing.

Thanks and have fun!

http://i.imgur.com/2qU8SMJ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Jyzo041.jpg
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The squares blocked out in the audio signal. Look at the large circle/platform area in the image; it has large and half-sized squares blocked out on it in relief. Does anyone have a large image of the circle showing whether those squares continue around it? I have half an idea..
 
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ArchEmperor

ArchEmperor
I am currently looking for Thargoid Plasma beam weapons.

Based on the math many of you made here in this thread I got an interesting candidate for exploring: LEEH TY-S D3-0
Looks as good as any other given points of interest.
 

Ericlas

Ericlas
AlienBaby said:
The squares blocked out in the audio signal. Look at the large circle/platform area in the image; it has large and half-sized squares blocked out on it in relief. Does anyone have a large image of the circle showing whether those squares continue around it? I have half an idea..
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Warning 4,5 MB:


YagixC5.jpg
 

Daedalus_Dash

D
Ericlas said:
Obelisks transmitting Binary/Morse/.../just random noise ?

http://i.imgur.com/2qU8SMJ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Jyzo041.jpg
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The pattern is probably not morse.. I see four types of "symbols": small square, small rectangle, big rectangle and vertical rectangle. I'm eager to see what you find from the 13 min recording, together with what CMDR Runcible Shaw finds! Maybe each obelisk only transmits a piece of the message (if there is a message) each, and they need to be paired together. BTW, anyone having any luck with code-breaking this yet? https://ixalon.github.io/elitedangerous/ I've been staring at it for hours it feels like, and i'm getting dizzy.
 

Ericlas

Ericlas
BDC said:
Got a spot to upload the audio to, Ericlas?
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I'm sorry I can't. That 13 mins is 1 GB+. I'm on mobile connection.

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Daedalus_Dash said:
The pattern is probably not morse.. I see four types of "symbols": small square, small rectangle, big rectangle and vertical rectangle. I'm eager to see what you find from the 13 min recording, together with what CMDR Runcible Shaw finds! Maybe each obelisk only transmits a piece of the message (if there is a message) each, and they need to be paired together. BTW, anyone having any luck with code-breaking this yet? https://ixalon.github.io/elitedangerous/ I've been staring at it for hours it feels like, and i'm getting dizzy.
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13 min pic is up, no cuts.
I am an amateur at setting up audacity. Maybe this different blocks are because of a setting issue?
It can look very different if you just zoom out.
That is why I asked for the professionals to have a look :)

http://i.imgur.com/mTlZElE.jpg
 
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Geordio

Geordio
Hi,
Been following this thread for a while now, but first time I've felt I needed to chip in.
I don't want to throw a spanner in the works, as its fantastic work uncovering the signal, but I recall that on the CG for the ruins it mentioned 5 types of data pattern.
Do we know if the signal is the same each time, or does it differ for the different patterns. If so, what made pattern Delta so important to the CG?

I'd check in myself, but I'm 5k ly out, and limping home, my poor Asp has taken a beating.
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
CMDR Arguendo said:
I haven't seen any reply to this, so I'll give it a shot.
The UA convoys consists of 3 ships (2 Anacondas and 1 T9) iirc. Since the site has atleast 4 human ships, there aren't any missing. There is actually an extra T9 there, which would explain why there are commodities strewn around the site. The UA convoys never carried regular commodities, so they had to come from somewhere else.
So, yes, this could be a UA Convoy and an extra T9. The placement of the UAs are a bit strange however (right in front of the Alien ship), especially if we assume that all ships (human and alien) crashed and were rendered immobile at the time of impact. How would then the UAs move to that spot? And the 2nd crash site also has UAs, but there are no other human ships there, only an SRV wreck (like the 3rd site).
The crash sites are a bit strange, in that they are all different (1: Only a wreck. 2: A wreck, UAs, SRV. 3: Wreck, UAs, SRV, human ships). It's like they are "escalating" and that makes it unclear for us whether we can attach them to something already known, like the UA Convoys. It's a bit confusing tbh.


Someone mentioned this early on after the discovery of the ruins. Given our lack of ability to easily place objects anywhere specific, it seems a bit strange for FDev to add a placement mechanic to the puzzle. Jettisoning things from the SRV isn't really accurate atm. So to me, it seems that the "stand up feature" is more to make sure it stays upright on top of the "beacon."


The last sentence there is important. We need to keep the different mysteries separate, atleast until we can find an undisputable connection between them. There currently isn't any tangible connection between the ruins, UA/UPs, or Barnacles. There actually isn't any connection between any of the three (except the loose connection between UA/UP corrosion and MetaAlloys).
So please don't confuse things by mixing info from one into the other.

Also, even though the math used to find that "Alien origo" was impressive, it is currently at the same place as Mengy's theory; unproven. The former cannot be proven because it's in a locked sector, so it's an assumption that we are waiting to check. Until then, I would be careful about using it as a reference for anything else in the game.
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I remember some speculation that the UA had aspects still to be discovered, that perhaps it is a weapon looking for an alien ship target & that is why UAs scanned but didn't otherwise react to human ships. Perhaps the annies/T9 formed a convoy carrying UAs which came into contact with the alien ship, the UAs reacted to it Causing them all to crash.
 

rizal72

rizal72
Ericlas said:
This IS a fricking hidden signal.

http://i.imgur.com/mTlZElE.jpg
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Really could be, indeed.

I prefer other software to audacity, so if there's a way for you to share the audio, even in a more compressed form (better, no need for it to be uncompressed I think, really), I could give it a look.

However it seems some hidden signal. Different from the ones we are used to...
 
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Muetdhiver

Muetdhiver
Ericlas said:
This IS a fricking hidden signal.

http://i.imgur.com/mTlZElE.jpg
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Most awesome ^^

Some remarks from working with the UA/UP sound :

I don't see any repetition or grouping of the squares in patterns.
This might be like the UP/UA random sounds that sound like a signal but aren't.
Not saying there is no signal, just that if there is, it looks very unstructured (so, extra hard to crack).

It would be interesting to see if there are correlations with the obelisk pattern. (but the pattern period is
very short, a few seconds, while this looks very slow)

Anyway, this puzzle is getting better and better.
 
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