Now look at the Unknown Artefact - then check out the colours and glows of green on both the Artefact and that of the alien wreckage...
Artefact is blue not green.
Ship has two sides, maybe the crash site we're looking at the back.
Now look at the Unknown Artefact - then check out the colours and glows of green on both the Artefact and that of the alien wreckage...
I believe the Unknown Probes are Oresian with the latest Hyperdictions and are related to those alien vessels (the reddish and murky brown colours are consistent with one another) - this may explain why no one is being Hyperdicted when carrying an Unknown Probe, even if they are also carrying an Unknown Artefact. This could be a huge hint.
Artefact is blue not green.
Ship has two sides, maybe the crash site we're looking at the back.
aaah that's not true,
my encounter happened when i had ONLY an UP in my hold :S
since that i grabbed 2 additional UA's and since 60 jumps no further happening
I agree, the centre of the crashed ships compared to these ships are different:
Crash Site Example:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NY12XLDqC2U/maxresdefault.jpg
First Contact Example:
http://i.imgur.com/bRquJWl.jpg
These are both clearly different... (and I'm sure if we all analyze the 8 wings hard enough, we will see subtle differences in shape and colour).
I think these are both Thargoid (as a race, but one (I think) is Klaxian, and the other is Oresian - these will be Ethnically different (Caucasian, Asian; for a more 'human' example).
This also raises another possibility;
If the Crash Sites are Klaxian, then they must be related somehow to the Unknown Artefacts. After all, one Crash Site has 3 or 4 Unknown Artefacts scattered around (right next to) the crashed alien ship...
So I propose this hypothesis;
Klaxian technology is related to the Unknown Artefacts.
Oresian technology is related to the Unknown Probes.
This could be vice-versa, of course, but considering the Unknown Artefacts are scattered around the subtly different looking (and only green-glowing) crashed alien ship, and not probes, it must mean we are dealing with two ethnically different types of Thargoids.
Both the Unknown Probes and the new alien ship encounter disable us in exactly the same way - they power down our ships (or at least disable our cockpits, because shields are never lost nor need to reboot - this in itself means disabling our means of control is more of a way of pacifying us just for the short term - it is not an aggressive act, albeit, even if we see it that way).
Both the Artefacts and Probes look very different;
Probe:
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net...n_Probe.png/revision/latest?cb=20160819052516
Artefact:
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net...act_001.png/revision/latest?cb=20150504171012
Pay close attention to the colouring! Now compare the colours of the probes to that of the Crash Sites and then the one being seen during the Hyperdiction!
I believe the Unknown Probes are Oresian with the latest Hyperdictions and are related to those alien vessels (the reddish and murky brown colours are consistent with one another) - this may explain why no one is being Hyperdicted when carrying an Unknown Probe, even if they are also carrying an Unknown Artefact. This could be a huge hint.
Now look at the Unknown Artefact - then check out the colours and glows of green on both the Artefact and that of the alien wreckage...
They match.
The Barnacles? I also think they are related to the Unknown Probes and the living ships Hyperdicting everyone - they specifically HEAL space stations with Meta-Alloys that they produce, and may in fact be something the Oresians use to protect themselves against the Klaxians... who could be returning, and the "good" aliens know they are coming...
I'll settle for turquoise - but they are defo not blue, lol.
- - - Updated - - -
Have you told the guys who run the thread yet and provided screen shots or video of it? At the moment it says no one has successfully been Hyperdicted carrying a UP yet![]()
I agree, the centre of the crashed ships compared to these ships are different:
Crash Site Example:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NY12XLDqC2U/maxresdefault.jpg
First Contact Example:
http://i.imgur.com/bRquJWl.jpg
These are both clearly different... (and I'm sure if we all analyze the 8 wings hard enough, we will see subtle differences in shape and colour).
I think these are both Thargoid (as a race, but one (I think) is Klaxian, and the other is Oresian - these will be Ethnically different (Caucasian, Asian; for a more 'human' example).
This also raises another possibility;
If the Crash Sites are Klaxian, then they must be related somehow to the Unknown Artefacts. After all, one Crash Site has 3 or 4 Unknown Artefacts scattered around (right next to) the crashed alien ship...
So I propose this hypothesis;
Klaxian technology is related to the Unknown Artefacts.
Oresian technology is related to the Unknown Probes.
This could be vice-versa, of course, but considering the Unknown Artefacts are scattered around the subtly different looking (and only green-glowing) crashed alien ship, and not probes, it must mean we are dealing with two ethnically different types of Thargoids.
Both the Unknown Probes and the new alien ship encounter disable us in exactly the same way - they power down our ships (or at least disable our cockpits, because shields are never lost nor need to reboot - this in itself means disabling our means of control is more of a way of pacifying us just for the short term - it is not an aggressive act, albeit, even if we see it that way).
Both the Artefacts and Probes look very different;
Probe:
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net...n_Probe.png/revision/latest?cb=20160819052516
Artefact:
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net...act_001.png/revision/latest?cb=20150504171012
Pay close attention to the colouring! Now compare the colours of the probes to that of the Crash Sites and then the one being seen during the Hyperdiction!
I believe the Unknown Probes are Oresian with the latest Hyperdictions and are related to those alien vessels (the reddish and murky brown colours are consistent with one another) - this may explain why no one is being Hyperdicted when carrying an Unknown Probe, even if they are also carrying an Unknown Artefact. This could be a huge hint.
Now look at the Unknown Artefact - then check out the colours and glows of green on both the Artefact and that of the alien wreckage...
They match.
The Barnacles? I also think they are related to the Unknown Probes and the living ships Hyperdicting everyone - they specifically HEAL space stations with Meta-Alloys that they produce, and may in fact be something the Oresians use to protect themselves against the Klaxians... who could be returning, and the "good" aliens know they are coming...
The evidence indicates that the crash ships and encounter ships are the same - the difference you're seeing in the two images is just because you're looking at the 'top' in the shot from the encounter whereas what you're looking at in the shot from the crash is the 'bottom'.
Covered this and loads more here:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...9-The-Canonn?p=4978405&viewfull=1#post4978405
who doesn't like side boob views?I found this part of your side view, erm, interesting... #FacesInThings
I agree, the centre of the crashed ships compared to these ships are different:
Crash Site Example:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NY12XLDqC2U/maxresdefault.jpg
First Contact Example:
http://i.imgur.com/bRquJWl.jpg
These are both clearly different... (and I'm sure if we all analyze the 8 wings hard enough, we will see subtle differences in shape and colour).
I think these are both Thargoid (as a race, but one (I think) is Klaxian, and the other is Oresian - these will be Ethnically different (Caucasian, Asian; for a more 'human' example).
This also raises another possibility;
If the Crash Sites are Klaxian, then they must be related somehow to the Unknown Artefacts. After all, one Crash Site has 3 or 4 Unknown Artefacts scattered around (right next to) the crashed alien ship...
So I propose this hypothesis;
Klaxian technology is related to the Unknown Artefacts.
Oresian technology is related to the Unknown Probes.
This could be vice-versa, of course, but considering the Unknown Artefacts are scattered around the subtly different looking (and only green-glowing) crashed alien ship, and not probes, it must mean we are dealing with two ethnically different types of Thargoids.
Both the Unknown Probes and the new alien ship encounter disable us in exactly the same way - they power down our ships (or at least disable our cockpits, because shields are never lost nor need to reboot - this in itself means disabling our means of control is more of a way of pacifying us just for the short term - it is not an aggressive act, albeit, even if we see it that way).
Both the Artefacts and Probes look very different;
Probe:
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net...n_Probe.png/revision/latest?cb=20160819052516
Artefact:
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net...act_001.png/revision/latest?cb=20150504171012
Pay close attention to the colouring! Now compare the colours of the probes to that of the Crash Sites and then the one being seen during the Hyperdiction!
I believe the Unknown Probes are Oresian with the latest Hyperdictions and are related to those alien vessels (the reddish and murky brown colours are consistent with one another) - this may explain why no one is being Hyperdicted when carrying an Unknown Probe, even if they are also carrying an Unknown Artefact. This could be a huge hint.
Now look at the Unknown Artefact - then check out the colours and glows of green on both the Artefact and that of the alien wreckage...
They match.
The Barnacles? I also think they are related to the Unknown Probes and the living ships Hyperdicting everyone - they specifically HEAL space stations with Meta-Alloys that they produce, and may in fact be something the Oresians use to protect themselves against the Klaxians... who could be returning, and the "good" aliens know they are coming...
So another observation I made re watching the videos. Taking in the theory that there might be two sides of thargoids and this thing is only here to remove the enemy thargoids "artifacts", those yellow things are some sort of tentacle that can bend space and time to its will. It has the ability to remove UA's from your ship without physical bounds and additionally when it leaves and opens its wormhole it uses them again, but if you watch closely it's almost as if it's using them to stretch and bend space to its will. Almost like how we would use our hands to dig a hole in the ground, its using these tentacles to open a portal to witch space and potentially a different dimension.
but they dont take the UAs away? They are still in your hold after the encounter.
For what it's worth, mine remained in my hold after the encounter.I think the jury is still out on this one. Multiple documented cases where there were items missing from cargo holds after the encounter.
but they dont take the UAs away? They are still in your hold after the encounter.
Hi all still trying to catch up so i dont know if this has been spotted.
i have been going through the interdiction vids that are up all of them i think and one had something ive not seen in the others could be the angle of the shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYmbwx7n6Ys
Go to 1 min 53-54 secs just before the jump bubble opens up it looks like the "thargoid" ship fires something straight ahead.
is this how it jumps fires a missile that open a bubble and then passes through it.
Gonna go back and see if it is in any other vids
These are not thargoids! Or at least the kind were used to. I think there Oresians from Drews lore page "Thargoids are divided into more than one group. We know of the Oresians and the Klaxians." I dont remember where I read it but i heard the Oresians are Red. BUT! The one in the trailer is green. the one we have seen is red. and it makes sense that its not shot at us because according to Drews lore... "There was also another race mentioned in “The Dark Wheel”, known as the Oresrians. These were portrayed as a peaceful offset of the Thargoids, but very similar in overall appearance, albeit with a warning to Commanders to “Check the thorax markings and the shape of the fourth joint on each hind leg before jumping to conclusions.” so... these are friendly they gotta be
EDIT: ADD ON TO THAT! UNKNOWN ARTIFACT IS THREAT LEVEL FOUR! UNKNOWN PROBE (Which is also red) IS THREAT LEVEL 2
I think the jury is still out on this one. Multiple documented cases where there were items missing from cargo holds after the encounter.
I concur that these are not Thargoids. Thargoids would have attacked and destroyed on sight. From the little evidence we have so far (reports of repaired canopies, fuel topped up, UAs (which are corrosive/toxic) taken, shots in the back not returned, no hostile act at all despite relative invulnerability to human weapons so they could have easily destroyed the interdicted ship at each & every occasion leaving no witnesses-which would have been the obvious thing to do if they were hostile scouts) these are friendly aliens. Moreover they sing and repair damage done by UAs, so I think it is becoming evident what these aliens are. They are the Guardians (the title of version 2.2) that repaired Jaques after his misjump and rescued Halsey. She referred to them as the architects of creation, so I wonder if they have some link to the history of human development.
I think we should consider some sort of Earth defense fleet. We cannot allow the cradle of humanity to fall should they become hostile