Looking at this, There's an Orb south of the top left urn. in
Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn
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I thought this could happen as well, and my first spreadsheet reflects two or three obelisks putting out several pieces of data, but be careful with delayed/disappearing messages, and try to keep track of data by looking at how the payout increases with successful scans. When I compared my spreadsheet to others, and took my route into consideration I noticed that it was more likely that I had gotten delayed messages instead of two pieces per obelisk. I made a second spreadsheet by shifting the questionable pieces by one on my route, and the resulting sheet is entirely consistent with those of other commanders, differing only in some combinations used. In other words, I got only one piece of data per obelisk in solo play, except for Obelisks 3 and 7 in the original map (G19 and C38, respectively in the new numbering system).
EDIT I got Language 14/21 in Obelisk 10 using Tablet+Relic
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Been spending the last several hours doing all sorts of stuff to reset Obelisks in Solo without logging out.
What didn't work
-Waiting -2hrs
-Picking up everything
-Activating and scanning all relics
-destroying all relics
-Dropping relics around obelisks. (Chanting latin had no change but my bedroom door did slam shut
-Flying away along the planet (Went from -31 to -40 ish and flew back)
-Driving geometric patterns around and through the obelisks.
What did work
-Going to orbital cruise and back. (This creates a new instance as far as I know
Am going to start testing obelisks combinations to see if they stick to the same game. Ram mentioned the alien tech will safe guard itself, its possible on the short term they shut themselves off till the scanner leaves. So as long as the active game session doesn't close, the combinations will match a specific obelisk on every return. Anyways, I'm going to test this. Takes a while going up and down, finding the spot again, etc. so if anyone else wants to help me test this for a faster result, would appreciate it.
What didn't work
-Waiting -2hrs
-Picking up everything
-Activating and scanning all relics
-destroying all relics
-Dropping relics around obelisks. (Chanting latin had no change but my bedroom door did slam shut
-Flying away along the planet (Went from -31 to -40 ish and flew back)
-Driving geometric patterns around and through the obelisks.
What did work
-Going to orbital cruise and back. (This creates a new instance as far as I know
Am going to start testing obelisks combinations to see if they stick to the same game. Ram mentioned the alien tech will safe guard itself, its possible on the short term they shut themselves off till the scanner leaves. So as long as the active game session doesn't close, the combinations will match a specific obelisk on every return. Anyways, I'm going to test this. Takes a while going up and down, finding the spot again, etc. so if anyone else wants to help me test this for a faster result, would appreciate it.
If FD have set up timed missions that require access to locked system to complete, I'll be surprised and very disappointed.
According to lore revealed so far the Guardians sent three slower-than-light ark ships to establish their first colonies. Reason suggests that the intended destinations for those ships would be close to the homeworld. Even with suspended animation tech you'd still want to minimise the duration of the trip. And look at where the earliest human colonies where: Tau Ceti, Alpha Centauri, Altair, Delta Pavonis, all within about 20 Ly of Sol. So I don't expect the other ruins sites to be as far away as Regor, Col 70, or Eafots, I expect them to be nearby (assuming FD came up with this lore before placing the ruins sites).
Hah, yeah I'm all too aware of the delayed message bug now!
In the case above, the two scans were on two different days, so not the issue here. I got Language 8 from Obelisk 10 with just the Tablet. Looking at Riz's spreadsheet, that's consistent with the above, 8 and 14 are the two pieces of data people are finding there. That makes me think the easiest way might just to sit at one obelisk and repeatedly scan & relog until you get all of one type of data, then move onto another group.
Yup, postet this some pages further too, couldnt say when/why they disappear, my thougt was this happen if you relog for whatever reason
I agree. Right now there is no evidence that any of the three mysteries are related. For that matter the only evidence that barnacles are related to the UA/UP/alien ships is their presence in the Pleiades and the fact that meta-alloys protect against the UA/UP corrosion. But they've been found in other nebulae too and meta-alloy protection may not be due to a relationship with the UA/UPs, it may just be that meta-alloys are particularly tough materials.
I have done this and nothing happened, but when i went back to my ship i had a sound looping every 5 seconds or so.
The image from the Unknown probes and the site are far to coincidental. My guess is that each site acts as a beacon to lead interstellar travelers to their Home world. Much like Humanity did with the Voyager probes. Maybe the ruins with the beacons are all pointing us to their Home system. Or, to another system with a ruin. If there are Three as other people suggest, maybe the Orientation with each planet's 'North Star' So to speak can help us Triangulate the location of their Home world. If I may also point out the grand circle structure also looks like Bernard's loop, Each pyramid could correspond to a nebula and the distance and orientation could be indicative of another ruin's location.
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My experience in alien ruins
(I may be wrong in part or in most)
After several hours, in the ruins, I have been able to detect a pattern. (I do not know if it has already been published by another CMDT)
ASi as the triangles that are drawn seem to be pentagonal numbers, in the end I have discarded them for many absurd sequences (or so I think).
But to be able to decipher all the enigmas we have to think about variations, and not only the combinations of objects.
The scan pattern
Example of most image obelisk distribution by fórums,scan object 1 various time to the second scan
Scanendo mismo obelico
1 alpha scan
2 scan beta
3 gamma scan
...
... beta beta scan
... delta gamma scan
In this way,
Note: most of the time I have covered most of the occasions I had to cross almost all obelisks to return to rescan 1, but I also detected that the number of combinations is limited, eg I have not detected alpha alpha nor elipson elipson
Also seems to detect that some of the objects according to pattern is alpha beta ... etc is not correct by its nature, that is to say it may not be a combination of any combination with alpha, for example, so I think they have liminatado Combinations to not overextend
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MI experiencia en ruinas alien
(puedo estar equivocado en parte o en mayoria)
Despues de estar varias horas, en las ruinas, he conseguido detectar un patron. ( desconozco si se ha publicado ya por otro CMDT)
ASi como los triangulos que se dibujan parecen se numeros pentagonales, al final los he descartados por se absurdos muchas secuencia ( o eso creo yo).
Pero para poder descifrar todos los enigmas tenemos que pensar en variaciones, y no solo las combinaciones de objetos.
El patron de escaneo
ejemplo de la mayoria de imagen distribucion de obeliscos por foros
1 scan alfa
2 scan beta
3 scan gamma
...
...Scan beta beta
... scan delta gamma
Asi sucesivamente,
Nota: la mayoria de las veces he recorrido mayor parte de las ocasiones he tenido que recorer casi todos obeliscos para volver a rescan 1, pero tambien he detectado que esta limitado el numero de combinaciones, ejemplo no he detectado alfa alfa ni tampoco elipson elipson
Tambien me parece detectar que algunos de los objetos segun patron sea alfa beta ...etc no es correcto por su naturaleza, es decir puede que urna no sea combinacion de cualquier combinacion con alfa, a modo de ejemplo, por lo que creo han liminatado combinaciones para no extenderse demasiado
My experience in alien ruins
(I may be wrong in part or in most)
After several hours, in the ruins, I have been able to detect a pattern. (I do not know if it has already been published by another CMDT)
ASi as the triangles that are drawn seem to be pentagonal numbers, in the end I have discarded them for many absurd sequences (or so I think).
But to be able to decipher all the enigmas we have to think about variations, and not only the combinations of objects.
The scan pattern
Example of most image obelisk distribution by fórums,scan object 1 various time to the second scan
Scanendo mismo obelico
1 alpha scan
2 scan beta
3 gamma scan
...
... beta beta scan
... delta gamma scan
In this way,
Note: most of the time I have covered most of the occasions I had to cross almost all obelisks to return to rescan 1, but I also detected that the number of combinations is limited, eg I have not detected alpha alpha nor elipson elipson
Also seems to detect that some of the objects according to pattern is alpha beta ... etc is not correct by its nature, that is to say it may not be a combination of any combination with alpha, for example, so I think they have liminatado Combinations to not overextend
ORIGINAL
MI experiencia en ruinas alien
(puedo estar equivocado en parte o en mayoria)
Despues de estar varias horas, en las ruinas, he conseguido detectar un patron. ( desconozco si se ha publicado ya por otro CMDT)
ASi como los triangulos que se dibujan parecen se numeros pentagonales, al final los he descartados por se absurdos muchas secuencia ( o eso creo yo).
Pero para poder descifrar todos los enigmas tenemos que pensar en variaciones, y no solo las combinaciones de objetos.
El patron de escaneo
ejemplo de la mayoria de imagen distribucion de obeliscos por foros
1 scan alfa
2 scan beta
3 scan gamma
...
...Scan beta beta
... scan delta gamma
Asi sucesivamente,
Nota: la mayoria de las veces he recorrido mayor parte de las ocasiones he tenido que recorer casi todos obeliscos para volver a rescan 1, pero tambien he detectado que esta limitado el numero de combinaciones, ejemplo no he detectado alfa alfa ni tampoco elipson elipson
Tambien me parece detectar que algunos de los objetos segun patron sea alfa beta ...etc no es correcto por su naturaleza, es decir puede que urna no sea combinacion de cualquier combinacion con alfa, a modo de ejemplo, por lo que creo han liminatado combinaciones para no extenderse demasiado
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I, for one, don't find the "accepted" solution for that image in the spectrogram entirely satisfactory.
Hah, yeah I'm all too aware of the delayed message bug now!
In the case above, the two scans were on two different days, so not the issue here. I got Language 8 from Obelisk 10 with just the Tablet. Looking at Riz's spreadsheet, that's consistent with the above, 8 and 14 are the two pieces of data people are finding there. That makes me think the easiest way might just to sit at one obelisk and repeatedly scan & relog until you get all of one type of data, then move onto another group.
Interesting. I had gotten Language 8 from Obelisk 12 using Tablet+Casket. I had noticed while doing my scans that two pairs of data were inverted when compared to other spreadsheets. For example, Tech 7 and Tech 10 I got from Obelisks 14 and 15, respectively, they're inverted in the spreadsheet used by CMDR M Volgrand (the one linked in the Frontpage).
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No, there are more. There are around 35 accounted for as of last night, but I don't think it is yet clear how to obtain any of those over the initial 13. I was sitting on around 21 pieces when I logged off last night, but don't really have a clear idea of how I got the additional 8. At least two of those I received while sitting idle on my ship or during orbital cruise. The rest I got while driving around in the site, so it is possible other CMDRs in the perimeter scanned different obelisks with certain combinations.
Something interesting I found, possibly relating Soontill and the ruins. In the datalogs it said city planning was considered an art form, so the design is probably relevant. When you flip the map and look at it underneath, the relative positions of Soontill and the ruins circles seem to line up.
Album here http://imgur.com/a/RmRv5
Album here http://imgur.com/a/RmRv5
Hey there,
i know it was asked before but can someone confirm Ancient Wathever going missing from Cargo after Scanning Obelisks?
I just scanned the 4 Obelisks at G-Site and wanted to refuel my SRV as i recognised my Cargo was empty (again)... so def has nothing to do with reloging, seems to be one whole buggy piece of ****
edit: Couldnt say when the Items disapeared from cargo, will goin to test this now
edit 2: Playing in Solo
i know it was asked before but can someone confirm Ancient Wathever going missing from Cargo after Scanning Obelisks?
I just scanned the 4 Obelisks at G-Site and wanted to refuel my SRV as i recognised my Cargo was empty (again)... so def has nothing to do with reloging, seems to be one whole buggy piece of ****
edit: Couldnt say when the Items disapeared from cargo, will goin to test this now
edit 2: Playing in Solo
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Lots of people are getting the "Everyone gets it if one person scans it" symptom now too. I'm now up to 23 data pieces.
Just as a suggestion moving forward - and I know it seems to change from scan to scan, but could well be worth recording what wave type each monolith is reporting when you scan it?
Just as a suggestion moving forward - and I know it seems to change from scan to scan, but could well be worth recording what wave type each monolith is reporting when you scan it?
Pretty sure the 'disappeared from hold' issue is caused by setting up a cargo transfer but not committing it with the button behind the pilot's knee. I've done that many times over the past few days. This means that a lot of reported results might actually be incorrect as well.
So PSA: Check your cargo inventory on the right panel before driving away from your ship/reporting results.
So PSA: Check your cargo inventory on the right panel before driving away from your ship/reporting results.
In solo mode, the given data changes when resetting the instance. It might be helpful if the obelisks would reset themselves, but since that's not the case, it's a moot point.
Why are the Relics scattered around the place Buried anyway?
And also whats with the glowing pad they are all on?
Is there a Method behind their original buried locations?
(for instance some of them are buried right next to the obelisks.)
And also whats with the glowing pad they are all on?
Is there a Method behind their original buried locations?
(for instance some of them are buried right next to the obelisks.)
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