Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

[Ghostedmind]

Could someone clue me in on this alpha, beta, etc pattern people keep referencing? Are people mapping the types of data you receive (eg history, biology, etc) to patterns.

By the way, if you turn in the mission early, do you only get the bonus? Or do you get the bonus plus the 100 million? Because I really want just about exactly 100 million and would be perfectly happy turning it in and just participating more indirectly in the mission and don't really need the theoretical 101 million + 100 million of a truly 100% completed mission.

the first time i saw the alien ruins, i thought that site A reminded me of the laser from the death star at first glance, now finding out it is part of the "monolith network" i think that site A is what transmits whatever kind of signal they used in a directional method, if you position your ship in the middle of the triangle on the raised platform, and face vertical, there are 3 systems nearly directly inline with you almost forming a triangle, within a single jump range, i've only checked a couple of times so not sure if the systems will move about and it was pure coincidence they lined up.

the systems that lined up were;
synuefe DJ-F A93-4
synuefe DJ-F A93-2
synuefe DJ-F A93-0

this is my first post and not sure if this has been noticed and discussed before, but i am adament there is another site somewhere nearby, ram tah himself says in the mission bio "please explore as many ancient sites as you can find"

YES, THANK YOU! Yeah, I said it earlier, but as usual no one even gave it the time of day. This is part of a communications network -- that much is established. I think we should be thinking along these lines to figure all this stuff out. And wouldn't it be communicating with other sites (at least when it was active. Presumably not now, but who can say if it's truly 100% dead or not?)

My suspicion would be the beacons though. They just feel like they may be related to transmissions or something. I thought that even before I found out the place is officially part of a communications hub. I'm most suspicious about those three that are arranged in a triangle towards the top right portion of the site (if it's aligned so the larger circle is up.) Aligning exactly between them is very very tricky though. I can think of a way, but it's very tricky to say the very least...

If it is the beacons, the fourth one at the bottom left is absolutely very significant in some way, but I'm not sure. It throws off the triangle in a very interesting way.

So, multiple people have mentioned this, but what if, its not each individual thing is supposed to point to something, but what if once they are all aligned with something THOSE systems are what we should search. So far one or another has pointed to something, but has anyone checked (through the rotation as they could) if there were multiple ones pointing to things?

 

[Shakujo]

Handed in Mission

I just got back to Felice dock in the Meene system and handed in the "Decoding the Ancient Ruins" mission.
I can confirm that, at least for the moment, it's possible to obtain the mission again from Ram Tah, resetting all the progress.
I've done the following steps:

-docked and handed in the mission
-launched and docked at another starport in a nearby system
-returned to Felice Dock with another ship (i think that changing ship is not necessary)

As you can see in the linked screenshot i have the message from Ram Tah "Decoding the ancient ruins" on top of the message list (most recent message) and under it you can see the messages received for the successful scans in the previus attempt.

 

[CMDR Midael]

I don't know if any one has mentioned this before but in the Guardian trailer (21 sec in), it seems to be another Ruin site.. i don't recognise it with the one we have. does this mean another one is definitely out there??

 

[gcase]

So, multiple people have mentioned this, but what if, its not each individual thing is supposed to point to something, but what if once they are all aligned with something THOSE systems are what we should search. So far one or another has pointed to something, but has anyone checked (through the rotation as they could) if there were multiple ones pointing to things?

In particular, if the line at site A points to a reachable star when the moon's position in the sky corresponds to the position of site F relative to site A... depending on interpretation, either when the entire moon is just below the horizon, or when the entire moon has just risen above the horizon.

 

[JJ12880]

Maybe something can be seen at a particular time of day? like a sundial.

 

[Shakujo]

HANDING IN MISSION

I just got back to Felice Dock in Meene system and handed in the mission.
I can confirm that, at least at the moment, it's possible to receive the mission again from Ram Tah.

I've done the following steps:
-docked at Felice Dock and handed in the mission
-launched and docked to another starport in a nearby system
-got back to Felice dock with a different ship (not sure that changing ship is required)
-as soon as i docked i got the message from Ram Tah again

As you ca see in the screenshot the message "Decoding the Ancient Ruins" is on top of the message list, and under it there are the messages for the successful scans completed during the previous attempt of completing the quest
https://postimg.org/image/fx1uec0v5/

 

[Ghostedmind]

Pretty much. I would think if this is the case there will be no question if they are pointing to something, but it should definitely be something you could see in the visible sky that each part is pointing to.

 

[Ahhmyface]

Nah, the ruins dont point to anything guys. Well, at least not another ruins site.

If you recall we found the ruins earlier than expected. So, given that, what are the odds it was the first site, and we're supposed to deduce the location of the second from it? Not bloody likely.

 

[CMND EthT]

Has anyone tried listening to the ruins and looking at the sounds through a spectrometer? I just did it for a minute by turning off everything in my SRV besides life support, and parking next to an obelisk.

I don't know anything really about spectrometry, but this is what I got from a minute of recording. http://puu.sh/tmMHQ/1d6ad8c79f.png

 

[AdmlAdama]

We are probably just missing a mechanic. Something simple a bunch of people are accidentally doing

Ships above with cargo... maybe we need to park our ships nearby with only one or two cargo worth of artefacts

 

[Drink!]

Why is everyone assuming that the big circle is the "top"?

 

[Ghostedmind]

I think its the same ruins, I've seen two pictures of the ruins, one with the config you see on the FP, and another where group E is horizontal

 

[HereticPilot101]

Alright, how the hell do you get any of the special obelisks to activate? I'm referring to the ones that don't activate in solo/PG. I've refreshed open about 4 times and ended up with the same normal ones that give me the 13 pieces of data I already have. Is it a time thing? Perhaps a certain number of commanders in the session? Or do we not even know yet?

 

[CoolpiX91]

HANDING IN MISSION

I just got back to Felice Dock in Meene system and handed in the mission.
I can confirm that, at least at the moment, it's possible to receive the mission again from Ram Tah.

I've done the following steps:
-docked at Felice Dock and handed in the mission
-launched and docked to another starport in a nearby system
-got back to Felice dock with a different ship (not sure that changing ship is required)
-as soon as i docked i got the message from Ram Tah again

As you ca see in the screenshot the message "Decoding the Ancient Ruins" is on top of the message list, and under it there are the messages for the successful scans completed during the previous attempt of completing the quest
https://postimg.org/image/fx1uec0v5/

Could you confirm you can scan again the same data you already scan the first time and he will hand you the same millions please?

 

[CMDR Midael]

I think its the same ruins, I've seen two pictures of the ruins, one with the config you see on the FP, and another where group E is horizontal

Was this a reply to me about the scene in the trailer been a different site? If it was then I still don't see it and can't find where it was shot from. If it wasn't a reply to me then nvm

 

[nazo]

Nah, the ruins dont point to anything guys. Well, at least not another ruins site.

If you recall we found the ruins earlier than expected. So, given that, what are the odds it was the first site, and we're supposed to deduce the location of the second from it? Not bloody likely.

They didn't give us the clues for this, so it stands to reason that if we're actually supposed to find something it would be based on access we have already. And looking at the stars and deducing from that was what got someone here, so they're obviously not against the idea of us using methods like that to find something. Why would they expect us to find it using clues they didn't give us yet just because they were originally going to give those clues?

BTW, why aren't people connecting the alien encounters with this site more. For example, I absolutely do not buy that those are landing pads at the top center or the bottom left because they have stuff sticking out. IF they are landing pads though... Well, they wouldn't be directly. They wouldn't land on them, but instead around them. Now, if we take something like those positively huge ships we saw, this sort of could fit. If it flipped around so the side that faced us went downward, it could go around those circles and perhaps the central part could open up and interface directly with the components there in some way. (Of note, the beacons don't respond to ships, only to SRVs, so this may have meaning in that respect since they wouldn't pop up for a ship. Or it could be meaningless since the event is largely meant to be done in a SRV. Hard to say.)

I'm not sure if there is anything to be deduced from this, but it seems wise to at least think along these lines somewhat during this process. Just in case. It may be nothing, or it may be something.


Still wondering for those people who turned in the mission: did you get the full 100 million + bonuses or do you just get the bonuses?

 

[Hessmix]

So Culture 8/20 just popped up and from the spreadsheets I don't think anyone has pinpointed where it was from. I believe it was an Urn + Totem combo from Group E

 

[Ghostedmind]

Was this a reply to me about the scene in the trailer been a different site? If it was then I still don't see it and can't find where it was shot from. If it wasn't a reply to me then nvm

sorry, I forgot to hit reply with quote. But yes, it was to you. I think it is the same site, maybe a difference between beta and live?

these are on google compare them with the one on the fp and the 8k res one we recently had posted

8kRes from ingame
http://i.imgur.com/PmMVsrj.jpg


Odd config.
https://i.imgur.com/AJ8FuDK.png


edit: its the same indentations, but the obelisks are in completely different places

 

[CMDR Midael]

Ah yes coolio. Makes sense now

 

[kastr]

Last night, something weird happened and I've not been able to duplicate what happened. While I was scanning with the Relic and Urn, I found 10 new obelisks that was active and scan-able. I thought that it might have happened because I had finally decoded 10 messages. But I've disproved that theory. So the only other theory I currently have is that a series of scans will unlock more obelisks. My normal routine is Section G, A, E, and F. I'm going to try and run that route again and see if I get the same result. But I was wondering if any one else has had more obelisks activate?

Thanks,
Cmdr Phyre Dragon