Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

[DippyNikki]

Myself and my fellow CMDRs created this Google doc.

We have posted to this thread but it's in a moderator queue. :/

The posts should be up soon but thanks for sharing it for us

 

[knowles2]

With that in mind, has anyone been interdicted with any of the artifacts on board? If they are from different races and there was a war, being interdicted while carrying an artifact might prompt a response from the alien ships.

Yes people have been interdicted via the alien vessel whilsts carrying the alien artifacts from the Guardian planet, there was no change in the scenario.

I'm hoping it not war, that so unoriginal.

 

[DippyNikki]

Myself and my fellow CMDRs created this Google doc.

We have posted to this thread but it's in a moderator queue. :/

The posts should be up soon but thanks for sharing it for us

it doesnt say what unlocks what... On the Kaltern sheet I saw many others combination, the sheets in front page has only the standard combos

currently i found this on discord canonn group https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...57nTBtDqRan41SZKpppJrmwA3c/edit#gid=208480479

Edited with quote... Hopefully lol

 

[Thatchinho]

Some CMRDs have mentioned that the "obelisks" and "monoliths" may be different structures. I argue that Ram Tah never mentions the word "obelisk" in the data we've found so far (please advise if I am wrong) so until it is stated otherwise we should assume that the "Monolith network" is the same thing as the obelisks at the ruins. This might be obvious to you all now, but I thought it might as well be stated.

I quote Ram Tah:

"With this data and the help of the galactic community we’ve partially mapped the monolith network, which formed the backbone of their communications technology, and discovered that they too are arranged in geometric patterns..."

Cheers o7

You are right, I'll stop sayin obelisk. There is no such thing. That is the name we gave. I'll call them monolith from now.

Just going to say this again. By definition, a monolith is a single stand alone thing.

Let me also put the following points forwards. The monolith network is for communication. This is a space-faring species. Why would their communication network consist of a bunch of things very close together? What would make sense is a series of of transmitters/receivers separated by large distance. Assuming each receiver/transmitter is distinct from everything surrounding it then it would constitute a monolith. As those monoliths are part of a communications network, then it would constitute a monolith network.

Also, why would any help and data be needed to map the obelisks and see they are arranged in geometric shapes? A single image of the site from above shows that. Zero data beyond a single photo would be required.

 

[ShadowAviator]

So we all know we have been viewing the ruins "wrong", right?

It may be nothing, but I faced "north" (360), and then looked down at the ruins.

The circles are side by side, and thus everything else is shifted accordingly. Now, the guardians seemed very into shapes and straight lines, so why would it be crooked. Maybe it's not.

Just a thought.

 

[Thatchinho]

IMHO the Ruins and the Aliens Ships/Shipwrecks/UA/UP are two separate stories, and in fact both scientists are very careful to not mention the Ruins when talking about the Sightings.
This does not mean that both stories could not be related somehow: for example these aliens (please, we know it, they are some kind of thargoids ) could be responsible of the Guardians' demise, or these two "civilizations" could have come in contact somewhere in time. But the Guardians could be about THE PAST, the ships we're encountering could be THE FUTURE.

Another thought about the RUINS:
reading carefully through the collected data, what is clear is that they are what we could call a huge library, or Wikipedia: a way for them to SHARE ALL THEIR KNOWLEDGE each other, in a way that is described similar to telepathy: wireless
Huge Hubs of knowledge, like HOTSPOTS carefully placed, to extend THE RANGE of these "libraries", to let their knowledge be accessible further.

Imagine for a moment, each single being of this specie, being able to access the whole knowledge: each one could be everything at once: the better scientist, the better politician, the better warrior, the better everything. I'm still wondering how too much knowledge could cause the end of e specie...

Strongly agree!

 

[JamyThegreat]

So we all know we have been viewing the ruins "wrong", right?

It may be nothing, but I faced "north" (360), and then looked down at the ruins.

The circles are side by side, and thus everything else is shifted accordingly. Now, the guardians seemed very into shapes and straight lines, so why would it be crooked. Maybe it's not.

Just a thought.

Just did the same after reading, looking down while facing north and looking across to the right, the ''pyramid'' on the far side of the larger circular structure points to the dwarf star that's currently rising... almost too accurate to be a coincidence no?

 

[who?]

Might be an obvious point, but if you're in a ship over the ruins and fly <75m off the ground, you get a more detailed model of the site in your scanner than you do in the SRV's. I don't know if there's anything hidden/relevant in the ruins themselves, but if there's any kind of pattern there, it's a good way to find it.

 

[ShadowAviator]

Just did the same after reading, looking down while facing north and looking across to the right, the ''pyramid'' on the far side of the larger circular structure points to the dwarf star that's currently rising... almost too accurate to be a coincidence no?

Well if I had built it, it would be square with North, South, East, and West. Maybe they thought the same, and maybe its "crooked" for a reason.

Grasping for straws, I know, but I would really like a break through right now.

 

[JamyThegreat]

Well if I had built it, it would be square with North, South, East, and West. Maybe they thought the same, and maybe its "crooked" for a reason.

Grasping for straws, I know, but I would really like a break through right now.

As well as that, the F class star of this system rises (at very similar time) in line with the small circular structure.. has to be more to this layout etc..

 

[Pumabear8]

Might be an obvious point, but if you're in a ship over the ruins and fly <75m off the ground, you get a more detailed model of the site in your scanner than you do in the SRV's. I don't know if there's anything hidden/relevant in the ruins themselves, but if there's any kind of pattern there, it's a good way to find it.

This is what I've been doing, don't know about detail, certainly better contrast, and while I was, I noted that while floating center of the large hub, the key nub, the bit sticking out, it's edge is at 270 degrees pointing almost a straight line to the small hub, means nothing to me, but hopefully might light a bulb in another commanders mind.

 

[Jarmat]

To me the circles look like either planets or stars, and the rings look like orbits of moons or planets... That said, the large circle has a large line coming out perpendicular... almost looks like a ring around the planet?

Or I've been looking at this stuff too long and need sleep...

 

[Moritasgus]

Here's a wild theory....

Its been discussed in depth that the site in general looks like a map.
We've found it too early rather than following the breadcrumbs that would have led us here.

What if when Fdev rearranged the site, they didn't so much 'rearrange' it but instead swapped it with another identical site elsewhere.
Would comparing the images we have of the before and after point us to noticable changes between the two that could then be used to look?

First discovery:

Current site:

What if the relics are a star pattern... 3 of the relics are in the same position on the map yet one moved... What if the site itself marks the position in the sky that the moon needs to be to see the star pattern?

There has to be some reason for the rearrangement, the common accepted answer is to point the 'map' at something else. If it is point at something else that means the original layout also points at something.

 

[Alderius]

Thought I'd pop over and give it all a try. My methods are pretty straight forward, grab a combo of items and scan every active obelisk. So far 3 combos have resulted in 4 "hits", but as many have stated I get at least one crash per circuit, sometimes I don't get messages, and sometimes 2 messages show up. As a field test guy in RL, this kind of thing is really frustrating as you don't have any base line..... I gave up on documenting anything because as the instance resets, who knows what else does? Just like the Formadine Rift, I feel like I'm participating in something that's fundamentally broken, I'm not doing it for the credits (I could me making 10x hauling passengers) but there isn't any way to contribute to the d%@#* storyline......
As far as the experience goes, it's a 4+ star idea and a 1 star execution......

 

[Pumabear8]

From the front page.

The value without the prefix was thought to be the relative distance from a reference planet (with 1 representing the distance of Merope 5C). CMDR Wace used this to triangulate the position of the reference system as "Col 70 Sector FY-N c21-3" and reported that the system was inaccessible

I don't know if this has been pointed out, when viewed from SYNUEFE XR-H D11-102 (the ruins planet), it's in the direction of Barnard's loop which is quite prominent in the ruins sky, that might be nothing, what I've just discovered is that every COL 70 sector I tested in that direct, they're all locked, requiring an unknown permit, I tested about a dozen, I suspect all the COL 70 sector are the same.

 

[stick152]

Bob's your 7 of 9's 1 of 2.

That gave the Mrs. and me a good laugh.

'Course, the first thing that springs to mind for me is "But surely Bjorn Stronginthearm's my 7 of 9's 1 of 2."

 

[CMDR-AD]

Thanks for posting those maps of before/after. Explains why I had so much trouble locating things I knew I had visited out at the ruins before, which are now gone. The two small triangular Obelisk groups outside the wall at 1 o'clock, for example.

I did work out my issues with only having unlocked 10 of the 13 possible in Solo mode, so now I've got the full 13.

For now, I'm going to sit back and await some signal that fixes may be inbound. Or that things are A-Ok as they are, and head back in.

 

[CMDR ChronoZoggt]

From the front page.




I don't know if this has been pointed out, when viewed from SYNUEFE XR-H D11-102 (the ruins planet), it's in the direction of Barnard's loop which is quite prominent in the ruins sky, that might be nothing, what I've just discovered is that every COL 70 sector I tested in that direct, they're all locked, requiring an unknown permit, I tested about a dozen, I suspect all the COL 70 sector are the same.

Wait, so there are systems out deep in space that are randomly locked? If this is common knowledge, I am sorry, but that sounds more than suspect.

Has anyone who got hyperdicted tried to get to there? Not that I think that it makes a difference, but you never know...

 

[Crazy_Harvey]

well here is a quick theory that someone might have brought up already. they liked geometric shapes concerning art, life imitates art (atleast as far as humans are concerned), could the artifacts correlate with the obelisks/relics someway? i know its a stretch but might aswell try everything.

edit: also could the order of objects in cargo affect data retrieved possibly?

 

[Faybs]

I was just at the ruins making sure I got all the solo-only data, and just watched a wonderful sunrise right through the gap in the wall. coincidence?

Different angle: