Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn
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As I said, I think we have the plane. The towers need to point to all the other sites, once during a 'day'(6.9 of our days).
Brute forcing in never a good option in ED.
What do you call the towers ? The relic pilar thingies ? (It would make sense that those relir pilars are some kind of transmiters or something along
those lines).
Well, if it's a map and the top circle is our system, then the other circle must be the destination system.
The only problem is: What other information do we have here.
I don't even know if the obelisks are part of the map.
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Yes. The relic pillar thingies. I think they are responsible for communication with other sites.
I could imagine they are maybe indicators for stars in a certain star constellation. Delta is also referring to the third to fifth brightest star in such a constellation....3...what a coincidence? Maybe this system with the Ruins is the Delta-System.
I find that possible because 1) the location of the pillars and 2) that you can see them from very far away.
Of course they can have multiple purposes.
And another thought: I think at one point we have to stop saying "this COULD BE a stone I have to turn around" but "This IS a stone I have to turn around" If nothing is underneath it, it's fine. But, if I'm not mistaken, there are not many investigations going on outside the ruins, or not?
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Looking at this sheet, I noticed that all acquired data is roghly in the middle third of each set.
So, is it safe to say we are currently on site 2?
I first thought, the different parts of each set are divided by time (a different set every week, maybe twoo weks for the first to figure out the mechanics)
But this seems to strongly suggest a spacial differentiation.
So, looking at this from a developers standpoint, I would have placed the first clue/site closer to the beginning of this "CG".
It's not much of a theory, but maybe it leads to something
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what sort of distances would the seconmd site be at, a third and fourth site could be similar distances in terms of a key type, right direction, right data or something like that bam they wake up
Noting how they changed the obelisks around after the patch, I think this site (2) now points to site 1. It originally pointed to site 3.
When we make it to site 1, I reckon it will look like this site pre-patch.
With this in mind, the obelisks must identify where we are going to find the next site, it's just figuring that out. Maybe something to do with numbers of obelisks = co-ordinates or a destination? Their language is visual...
My brain hurts thinking about it though!!
When we make it to site 1, I reckon it will look like this site pre-patch.
With this in mind, the obelisks must identify where we are going to find the next site, it's just figuring that out. Maybe something to do with numbers of obelisks = co-ordinates or a destination? Their language is visual...
My brain hurts thinking about it though!!
dynamicbob
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find site 3 and the metrics are the same youll find site 2 at the same time
Hmm. Sounds logical that with beacons relics and plane. But we don't know the radius. How far relic can transmit signal? Infinity? Maybe something happens when you hover over beacon? It will get mad, become red, and start killing people because signal is blocked?
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i have tried to pin down the pole star seeing as its the only star that will be in the same position every day, unfortunately i'm not very good at that kind of thing so i have had no luck, i have been very close though, if anyone can figure out which system it is and PM me i'll go take a look later.
Been looking into this mission the last few days , watched a few videos on youtube the question is where do i start and what would people say i need to have prior to attempting it.
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Well, here is the rub : the ruins are not fixed relative to the sky, so the pillars being pointer is possible, but it may be only once every 6.9dy, and then I guess that there are many stars that would "fit the bill" so to speak.
I'm trying to imagine a way to use this idea to reduce the search time compared to a dumb brute force approach, and so far I fail.
1) each tower points at a circle on the sky. Since all the towers are close-by (in the sense that the distance between them is << than the planet radius) it's really only one circle.
2) add in uncertainty, and we have a high number of stars. This would be fine if there where a way to go from sky map to galaxy map, but there is not. (you cannot point at a start and just select...). This makes determining which stars in this circle corresponds to which systems in the gal map rather... tricky.
3) then, we still don't have any idea of the distance...
I *do* think that the best way to go is working toward finding new ruins, and that the clue we get about the network following a geometrical pattern is an important clue in that regard.
What I'm saying is that without an additional clue, this is rather tricky and prone to tinfoil runaway. (Like : say we suppose the pattern is made of triangles, and it's made of squares lol)*
*regular tillings only allow for triangles, exagons and squares. (though if FD went extra nuts could use penrose tillings and then lol)
My experience with the UP is that before solving the puzzle, one must understand what the pieces are. So far, it's unclear to me what the pieces are.
Anyway, the site latitude is ~-30°, so the sky circle has a ~120° opening (i.e. not a great circle).
And then there are the 5 pillars markings that so far no one (as far as I know) has been able to figure out. Might be a clue.
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There is a FAQ on the first page that attempts to cover this - search for 'FAQ', the first page is quite large
I can't find but remember that "they" traveled with near-light speed. So we can assume the distance
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Hmm, are you familiar with the internet
AhAh, I was waiting for someone, like "you", pointing out this obvious similarity
It seems we are going in the same direction then, however the MUST HAVE feature we are missing, is the Telepathy bit, where you somehow gather that knowledge without doing anything, like "you" are the client, no need for a device, or learning by reading. I mean, you get it passively, thanks to those "implants" they have developed. But I'm sure we are close as well
FD knew that we had discovered this site through epic astro-navigation before they turned on the mission, so they must have wanted us to find this site (looks like it is site 2 of 3 because of the message range available). You'd have thought if they changed the site it would have been to make this site 1 (earlier messages), but it seems they changed the site layout but not the site contents. Or else they always wanted the first site we found to be the middle site, so they changed the site to make it #2, which hurts my head too!
to search ruin on the planet without known coordinates, we need better detailed planetary scanners, or rediscover telescope
FD do have a habit of making us scan whole planets for clues, luckily some people seem to still find things - I have enough trouble seeing the ruins even when I know where they are. This does make me think the other site(s) are off-world as xdeath (I think?) found this site by scanning the planet, so a reasonable fraction has been scanned (though I guess he stopped when he found the ruins, so it could be local).
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