Must be very bad coincidence then that the moon rises and sets exactely at the "landing pads" at the moment
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Not for me, what's your point of view?
i messed about with this a few pages back but just got shot down with its just a texture mirror...
http://i.imgur.com/gGSqutO.png
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Brute force candidate
SYNUEFE pj-D B46-6 B 1
https://www.edsm.net/en/system/bodi...tails/idB/801243/nameB/Synuefe+PJ-D+b46-6+B+1
Has a Orbital period and rotational period of 4.6 vs -4.6
Similar temp and gravity. High metal instead of Rocky body
If you wanted to start with a scan along the Orbital line of the moon here's my closest estimate
Coords: -0.6604, 47.3339
Heading: 270
Eyeballed using the Orbital lines so it may be off by a small amount so if somebody wanted to verify that be my guest
SYNUEFE pj-D B46-6 B 1
https://www.edsm.net/en/system/bodi...tails/idB/801243/nameB/Synuefe+PJ-D+b46-6+B+1
Has a Orbital period and rotational period of 4.6 vs -4.6
Similar temp and gravity. High metal instead of Rocky body
If you wanted to start with a scan along the Orbital line of the moon here's my closest estimate
Coords: -0.6604, 47.3339
Heading: 270
Eyeballed using the Orbital lines so it may be off by a small amount so if somebody wanted to verify that be my guest
Interesting, I've just tagged Betelgeuse, it's currently behind me as I sit near ruins facing direction the key is pointing, with the rotation of this planet, Betelgeuse should come around in front of me, gonna be a while though.
I just tried to dump the relics in deep space and then rotate and dump again. To see if they pointed like the UP.
No go. I did this in the current system at different orientations with them just staying randomly pointed.
Plenty of people there 1min ago before I crashed to desktop
Just crashed, too.... again >_>
In decimal a human based counting system. Curse you Riven and your base 15 number scheme!
But didn't the UP or UA output binary or even Morse code with the systems coords so using a human based communication scheme isn't new.
How do you mean "Brute force candidate"? Do you mean you randomly picked it or you've gone through a lot of planets finding it? What's the basis of your suggestion?
programad has shared a set of experiments (on front page, search for 'confirmed facts'). Feel free to add your findings or more theories!
Why Betelgeuse?
I'm sure this has been mention before but if you shoot any structures with a stock multi-cannon it causes lightning to jump all over the place - it's very pretty and would suggest they are shielded in some way - other than that though, I can't see how that helps. I do wonder what powers the site, I'm tempted to place the Relics into the coffin type structures to see if they provide more power to the Obelisks ...
The other outstanding questions are -
Is this the landing site of one of the Arks? - If so there will be another two sites (if) they landed as intended
The Homeworld cannot be that far away as they never had FTL travel - 10 generations in a Ark would probably get them no further than 100 ly Max! - Looking for F Class systems that may be a candidate there are thousands! in a 100ly radius!
One other question... Did we ever get a clue to these ruins? I don't mean the trailer either
Well one of the data points does mention their penchant for Kinetic weapons (when not using bio weapons) as well as their shield tech.
Does this effect happen in other areas and just noticing it now?
I've had a look at 2 of the maps we have available and decided to see if I could make any sense of the markings. I decided to rotate the image at some point as was suggested here to match geographical north (haven't confirmed this personally yet). Here are some scribbles:
http://imgur.com/a/cbkTO
1. So in both maps I was able to draw lines from the 2 groups at G which converge at the rocket shaped marking at A.
2. In the colored map I was able to draw a line from there over one of the beacons to the centre of the triangle at B.
3. The "random" pieces of wall inside the hexagon could be pointing places so connecting those I was able to draw two lines through group E, which then led to another piece of wall which directed the line straight through the middle of group D. There things stopped unfortunately. To slightly deviate from an assumption below, this line did originally end at a beacon instead of group D.
4. When connecting the pieces of wall you can draw a line all the way from left to right going through the middle of the planet.
Some assumptions, ideas:
1. Ram Tah has not made any remarks about there being a link between the crash sites and the ruins. He did however mention sites which would suggest there is more than one. The Galnet news refers to him as leading the research at the ruins. This could be just this site or several.
2. I thought it was a great idea to compare the before and after 2.2.03 pictures but I think that will only help if you know the answer. Without the answer it's best to focus on what we have and not confuse things further.
3. The pieces of wall around the edges are there for re-inforcement only (not likely), it's a sun dial (with a cycle that long, not likely), it's a distance measure (most likely, cut out some of the markings that seemed to be at the same angle and got a pretty good match)
4. The piece of wall along the left side is at a different angle on purpose (hopefully, as it points to the middle of group A in the greyscale map)
5. Group C could be just a picture of a different kind of spaceship, or it could be a course change (270 degrees to 30 degrees), or it could be coordinates (with some goodwill the left group is 8 x 4 with one piece missing would make 7 x 4 and 1 x 3, makes 31)
6. It's hard to think of the "pyramids" as anything other than pointers/markers so perhaps the bottom one shows the start point for navigation?
7. Group G is also following the lines of the hill they are on so you could just view them as an indication there are 2 sites in the system / this planet's orbit instead of they're angles actually meaning something.
8. I like the idea of this leading us to Sol but I think it would disappoint too many people without the proper permit for that to be the solution to the puzzle.
I need to take some pics myself to get some more conclusive drawings and I need to check out the "pyramid" outside the hexagon for myself. I didn't realize it was there until today.
Questions:
1. Why do group A and B have 3 markings looking like rockets when group E only has one in the triangle (but 3 in total) and the other planet doesn't have any rockets on it?
2. Why is there a second piece of wall at the end of the "stick", it doesn't seem to be able to link with anything?
http://imgur.com/a/cbkTO
1. So in both maps I was able to draw lines from the 2 groups at G which converge at the rocket shaped marking at A.
2. In the colored map I was able to draw a line from there over one of the beacons to the centre of the triangle at B.
3. The "random" pieces of wall inside the hexagon could be pointing places so connecting those I was able to draw two lines through group E, which then led to another piece of wall which directed the line straight through the middle of group D. There things stopped unfortunately. To slightly deviate from an assumption below, this line did originally end at a beacon instead of group D.
4. When connecting the pieces of wall you can draw a line all the way from left to right going through the middle of the planet.
Some assumptions, ideas:
1. Ram Tah has not made any remarks about there being a link between the crash sites and the ruins. He did however mention sites which would suggest there is more than one. The Galnet news refers to him as leading the research at the ruins. This could be just this site or several.
2. I thought it was a great idea to compare the before and after 2.2.03 pictures but I think that will only help if you know the answer. Without the answer it's best to focus on what we have and not confuse things further.
3. The pieces of wall around the edges are there for re-inforcement only (not likely), it's a sun dial (with a cycle that long, not likely), it's a distance measure (most likely, cut out some of the markings that seemed to be at the same angle and got a pretty good match)
4. The piece of wall along the left side is at a different angle on purpose (hopefully, as it points to the middle of group A in the greyscale map)
5. Group C could be just a picture of a different kind of spaceship, or it could be a course change (270 degrees to 30 degrees), or it could be coordinates (with some goodwill the left group is 8 x 4 with one piece missing would make 7 x 4 and 1 x 3, makes 31)
6. It's hard to think of the "pyramids" as anything other than pointers/markers so perhaps the bottom one shows the start point for navigation?
7. Group G is also following the lines of the hill they are on so you could just view them as an indication there are 2 sites in the system / this planet's orbit instead of they're angles actually meaning something.
8. I like the idea of this leading us to Sol but I think it would disappoint too many people without the proper permit for that to be the solution to the puzzle.
I need to take some pics myself to get some more conclusive drawings and I need to check out the "pyramid" outside the hexagon for myself. I didn't realize it was there until today.
Questions:
1. Why do group A and B have 3 markings looking like rockets when group E only has one in the triangle (but 3 in total) and the other planet doesn't have any rockets on it?
2. Why is there a second piece of wall at the end of the "stick", it doesn't seem to be able to link with anything?
What If hypoteyically Guardian's home world is earth?
The game year is a thousand years from now.
If Guardians are humans after leaving earth, would make sense to use a known stellar patterns from earth's point of view.
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Ram Tah does I believe hint that they are, or were until recently. human...
"Given the physical similarities between us and them, I'm amazed at the cultural and societal differences and the speed at which they rose to become part of their lives."
I take this as meaning he thinks their culture moved away from our own surprisingly quickly.
Amazing work. I would be interested if you wanted to share a link here or via a private message.
I've just finished work on a map set were i've added the correct combos out of this SHEET into every detailed clustermap.
ED Ancient Ruins - with Combos
NOTE: In other maps and spreadsheets cluster H is part of cluster E. Numbering is same! So, if you read somewhere E9 to E35 you'll find this in my maps as H9 to H35. Keep this in mind.
e.g.:
So it would be easy to pick up all datapackages.
1. Fly to ruins.
2. Jump into the srv.
3. Drive to a glowing obelisk.
4. Recognize obelisk in clustermap.
5. Get correct combo out of clustermap.
6. Drive back to ship and load correct combo in the srv.
7. Drive back to the obelisk.
8. Scan and get datapackage.
8a. Look if same combo is necessary for another obelisk and scan them too if possible.
9. Start new at point 3.
Keep in mind: For now you have to switch to OPEN or PG to lit up obelisks that do not belong to the 15 "default" obelisks always seen in SOLO (and meet up there with some friends/other commanders).
The "default" obelisks are marked in the clustermaps with cyan triangles. They will lit every time you start in SOLO, for now.
Here is a list: A3, B6, C3, C13, C36, C38, D9, E1, F4, G17, G18, G19, G20, H26, H34
Question from me:
What i noticed when drawing the maps, there is no combo for G19 ang C38 in the linked datasheet above. These two belongs to the "default" obelisks. I wonder not to find a combo in the sheet. I think there would be a typing error in the sheet, C38 would be C48 out of the sheet?
But what about G19?
ED Ancient Ruins - with Combos
NOTE: In other maps and spreadsheets cluster H is part of cluster E. Numbering is same! So, if you read somewhere E9 to E35 you'll find this in my maps as H9 to H35. Keep this in mind.
e.g.:
So it would be easy to pick up all datapackages.
1. Fly to ruins.
2. Jump into the srv.
3. Drive to a glowing obelisk.
4. Recognize obelisk in clustermap.
5. Get correct combo out of clustermap.
6. Drive back to ship and load correct combo in the srv.
7. Drive back to the obelisk.
8. Scan and get datapackage.
8a. Look if same combo is necessary for another obelisk and scan them too if possible.
9. Start new at point 3.
Keep in mind: For now you have to switch to OPEN or PG to lit up obelisks that do not belong to the 15 "default" obelisks always seen in SOLO (and meet up there with some friends/other commanders).
The "default" obelisks are marked in the clustermaps with cyan triangles. They will lit every time you start in SOLO, for now.
Here is a list: A3, B6, C3, C13, C36, C38, D9, E1, F4, G17, G18, G19, G20, H26, H34
Question from me:
What i noticed when drawing the maps, there is no combo for G19 ang C38 in the linked datasheet above. These two belongs to the "default" obelisks. I wonder not to find a combo in the sheet. I think there would be a typing error in the sheet, C38 would be C48 out of the sheet?
But what about G19?
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You could draw connecting lines all over the map, leading to many different systems. Or I must have missed something, as thouse lines seem to have no more significance than any other line/s you could draw.
How do you mean "Brute force candidate"? Do you mean you randomly picked it or you've gone through a lot of planets finding it? What's the basis of your suggestion?
Not based on some map decipher or being pointed at. Rather working outward from the current system.
This particular body, however, shares some similarities with the current one. Especially the odd Orbital and rotational period.
Great job, Rabbit.
Center of the installation, at the tip of the ridge, next to the little rock there
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