Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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We are curently on the ruins but yes we need to know where the list is so we can see where in the bubble... i wonder if they are still related to the ruins and that as they happen inside the bubble if they are either mounting an attack or if their next site is in the bubble somewhere

Maybe they also searching for an ancient ruins, and scanning commanders in search for data from obelisks and items from ruin sites... just my 0.02 oZ of tinfoil.
 
This site was found too fast, i don't think other sites are on this planet ...

Actually the fact it was found so fast suggests there may well be more ruin sites on the planet. The planet was found by triangulating the sky seen in the trailer and then scanning for systems with a planet with a close moon, but there was no clue as to where on the planet the ruins would be. Yet a single pilot found the ruins within an hour of arriving at the planet. If there is only ruin on the planet that's amazingly lucky. If there are several then it's less remarkable.

Edit: Didn't quite remember it right. There was about 7 hours between XDeath announcing the system his announcement that the ruins being found, and there were multiple commanders looking (not sure how many). I think that would still be quite fast of a single command looking for a single set of ruins on a planet that size, or even a group (it took a lot longer to find the barnacles, for example).
 
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Actually the fact it was found so fast suggests there may well be more ruin sites on the planet. The planet was found by triangulating the sky seen in the trailer and then scanning for systems with a planet with a close moon, but there was no clue as to where on the planet the ruins would be. Yet a single pilot found the ruins within an hour of arriving at the planet. If there is only ruin on the planet that's amazingly lucky. If there are several then it's less remarkable.

That is a good point. It could still have been pure luck, but that theory looks more likely. Does anyone know where/if there is any data about where was searched originally?
 
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I don't know if since I last posted here anyone has mentioned this or tried this: I got the idea today to try and see since we see so many 3's and triangles if maybe scanning the obelisks with 3 people at the same times surrounding it (each hold two artifacts of the 6, none repeated) would make a difference. Maybe hoping some team work was required for it to unlock a second or even third stage of each obelisk (each providing 1/3 of the data points we need to make the full mission requirement). Needless to say, no joy. Mind you we we skipped trying with just two of us, we went straight to 3. Maybe theres an order to this? Its very confusing with all the other CMDR's scanning around us in the site. All the incoming messages bleeding in we really can't tell if it's our failures or theirs. Also we since we had turned in our missions and restarted later we couldn't tell if we were getting anything really, the mission doesn't resend the messages. I still suspect this whole ruins site is one of 3, and likely the other 2 are placed in an equilateral triangle plot on the planet's coordinate grid (seeing as these guardians love triangles and 3's). It's just time consuming to scour the bearings...
 
I got to the antipodes, 31.7877, 51.0289. Nothing here so far, but, it does look similar to the area around the ruins so i'm gonna have a look around.

Made it out there myself this evening, found the same amount of dirt you did, I guess. At least we know there's nothing on the other side of this planet (as far as we can tell, anyway).
 
Did we ever get the name of the system that was mentioned in the Q&A livestream? A user apparently came across a populated medium security system out in/near Barnard's Loop, but I'm not sure of the system name was ever mentioned.
 
As good an excuse as any. Exploration is so much more fun with an excuse. Since they have already been checked, do you care to share your co-ordinates please? I am interested to see if they are anywhere near my own, which I'm not really willing to share with anyone who hasn't done the calculation.

It took me a while to dig the records out. Seems that I did this back in 2015 not last year (or 3301 ...). The "Visited Stars" filter in the map also doesn't seem to work for stuff visited that far back. Anyway, I wrote down the region I visited in my old notebook. It was around galactic coordinates -500, 355, -580. As to why/how I calculated it to be that area ... can't remember, sorry. All I have in my notebook is an awful lot of scribbled numbers, crossing outs, lots of stuff marked "WRONG" and then finally an enigmatic "MIACKCE" circled twice and these coordinates. Enigmatic in the sense that I haven't the foggiest idea how I got to that answer. I feel some sympathy for my old Maths teacher marking my homework.
 
I have an idea, but I need someone with tools and know-how to implement it, because I have neither.

Make a sphere with planet radius, then insert a Tetrahedron with 1st point being ruin site and 2nd point being center of sphere (planet). This will give us a line around planet with 2 more points on planet surface, with possible ruins location, and then the only thing that will be required is to go along the axis until we stumble into ruins. What is needed is a graphic tool that allows for spherical coordinates, or a brain of immersive power able to convert spherical coordinates mentally or on paper.

3 sites in a triangular pattern (guardian fetish) discovered with a help of 4 points (4 monolith). Sounds good, no?

So, anyone?

^^ this. Follow that link and it starts at 26:50.

"Can I explain why one system out by Barnard's Loop is Independent and Medium Security level. Well DaveSkillsGaming, I don't know which system you're talking about, but I'm going to take wild stab in the dark and suspect there is a planet base in that system with a population and faction will have a presence there.... so yes, not all the population is centered on Sol and Colonia. There are a few outposts of humanity in the deep reaches, some of them I don't think people have discovered yet" *cue Ed choking*

I can't see that question on the forums at least... nor google any reference to this system.

I am Daveskillzgaming that asked dav this during the livestream, i will post system full name when i get on tomorrow, it is behind VV Orionis in a near accesible region due to permit locks, unfortunately it causes a crash to desktop when you get close to any planet in the system and as of yesterday has now been permit locked........

You only can see its medium security as you jump and while within the system, it has two ringed dwarfs that have 4-5 barnacle like host planets, it is near an dirwct line between EZ orionis and VV (As i used route planner as i passed from system to system this way)

Will jump on tomorrow and post full system name though its a barnard loop system

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I am Daveskillzgaming that asked dav this during the livestream, i will post system full name when i get on tomorrow, it is behind VV Orionis in a near accesible region due to permit locks, unfortunately it causes a crash to desktop when you get close to any planet in the system and as of yesterday has now been permit locked........

You only can see its medium security as you jump and while within the system, it has two ringed dwarfs that have 4-5 barnacle like host planets, it is near an dirwct line between EZ orionis and VV (As i used route planner as i passed from system to system this way)

Will jump on tomorrow and post full system name though its a barnard loop system

Also i mite add i have posted some systems in previous threads like this aprox about 5 but as of yet up until davs answer they have gone ignored due to the masses some even disapeared....
 
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Im not smart enough to figure this out.
So I guess someone on here might be.
Does the planet with the ruins moon have a position on it that can always see the ruins site ?
 
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On that note i might add there was another one like this posted long ago that was suspectly found out in the formidine but also got casted i might go hunt it down maybe it is the eafots regions
 
XDeath's announcement is here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?p=4688417&viewfull=1#post4688417 so there might be something in the preceding pages. I don't think the search was that structured though.

Me and XDeath talked a bit about the find. The finding of the right system was the impressive part. I doubt he felt he could for sure find it. He just wanted to try and see what he turned up. (We were getting lots of hints through the videos at that time. So it made sense to look) It was awesome that he could find the right system.

However, finding the site was a little... less technical. He just looked around on the planetary map, and looked for a cool area to put ancient ruins. I believe he HEARD them first, as he was simply flying over the canyons. I wanted to do something similar (find cool spot, search for things), but alas, the cows needed feeding for the day.

So to answer the question, it was just good ol' searching the surface and hoping for a find.

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Cheers, I've set him (XDeath) a PM to find out. And Jon flint who was second.

I gotta be in the top ten. :D

I dropped in on the site right after he posted the coordinates. And actually ended up in the same instance he was.
 
Tinfoil hat on.

From what I have gathered from all the clues in the first 13 entries I have come up with the following theories if someone cares to test. I attempted to this evening but I had to get offline quickly.

Part 1
From the data provided we know the Guardians are a big fan of the Golden Ration/Fibonacci Sequence. They had access to AIs and revered knowledge to an almost religious level. We also know that these Data points/ruin locations will be found according to said golden rule. So the Ruins will in a pattern to match.

Since there are three locations then more than likely the shape will be a triangle. One point being the one we are currently at. They also seem to revere knowledge at an almost religious level. So perhaps close approximations to start distances and the shape of triangle must be perfect. No decimal place number will do. The locations should both be equadistance from each other and a whole number. They would strive for perfection so close approximations would not do when dealing with religion.

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Second known fact is that they are Red Bipedal hunters by origin. If they are indeed hunting and killing game of some kind, then that would mean they would need to blend into the landscape/foliage.

So we are looking for 2 different possibilities.

1 The atmosphere on the planet would have to be something other than Oxygen. Either a lighter element like helium or hydrogen. Or a compound such as methane or sulfur dioxide. I dont think it would be a compound because simple compounds like the 2 mentioned are very reactive with organic materials and other such compounds. Anything else that would have carbon as their building block. Ram Tah mentions the large amount of similarities between the Guardians and Humans so I am willing to bet that they are carbon based as well.

2. Which is the most likely candidate is that the Guardian home planets star is of the following classifications. (ABFO) If the plant life is similar to earth and photosynthesis occurs, then at a G class star and lower temperatures the light produced by those stars would make chlorophyll look green to our eyes. That means on earth our star and atmosphere combined would cause chlorophyll to get its energy from light derived from the blue and red spectrum of light while reflecting a combination of other light sources to make us see green.

Our sun produces an off white shifting to the yellow spectrum of visible light to our eyes. When it comes through the atmosphere it is yellowed even further. That means the red wavelength is almost completely consumed/absorbed by the chlorophyll while it reflects all other spectrum of light and an equal portion of blue and yellow spectrum to produce the green that our eyes can see.

The only way to shift that wavelength of absorption would be to change the light source itself. So to make green look red to us the light source would need to be of a shorter wavelength. White light is a combination of all light and has a very low nm distance between waves. Highly energetic light. Red has a 700 nm wavelength and anything beyond that we cannot see. It makes sense that chlorophyll would absorb almost all red light because red lightweights are slower/wider and more consistent. Easier to absorb the energy if its not flying at you well like a laser. It is also easier to control/use that energy if its not highly active.

So to make the chlorophyll look red it would mean that it would need to reflect more of the red light than it does on earth. The only way to do that is to have a light source that is almost primarily of a shorter wavelength. In this case it would absorb the majority of the green light while reflecting the red. That is because its light source is of a very low wavelength. So its source would need to be more energetic than a G class star like our sun.

In summation the ruins should be located all equidistant apart from one another and more than likely the Guardian home world will be located at a very old F,A, or B star. O class are way too young. Feel free to poke holes in the theory as I am very tired.

Tinfoil hat off.
 
Kinda at a loss now as to what to do :(

Tried seeing how close I need to be to ruins to see them on ultra settings.
for me i need to be below 2k and within 2k of the object, even then it would be lucky if i was looking at screen when i passed it.

Any suggestions on what to do until Fdev tell someone from cannon where the next ruin is ?
 
Kinda at a loss now as to what to do :(

Tried seeing how close I need to be to ruins to see them on ultra settings.
for me i need to be below 2k and within 2k of the object, even then it would be lucky if i was looking at screen when i passed it.

Any suggestions on what to do until Fdev tell someone from cannon where the next ruin is ?

Are we sure there are more ruins, and that the current ruins aren't bugged at 36 entries?
 
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