So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)

Assimilator1

Assimilator1
Stryka Choon
Careful reading indeed, the log never said the ship had been destroyed ;).

Jorki
The log says 3 mths before they can turn around and return, not simply return as if they were currently stationary.
 
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Jaiotu

Jaiotu
Assimilator1 said:
The log says 3 mths before they can turn around and return, not simply return as if they were currently stationary.
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This is my understanding as well. When I was in the Navy and we'd go on a long deployment only part of the deployment was to reach our operating theater. Travel to and from that operating theater accounted for a very small portion of the actual deployment. Most of the time during an average six-month deployment would be spent "in theater" doing the job.

Here's a typical scenario:

1 month to transit the Atlantic from N. America, cross the Mediterranean, pass through the Suez Canal, exit the Red Sea and then finally arrive in the Persian Gulf. The next four months are spent operating inside the Persian gulf. This is followed by another month for the return journey. At any point along the journey you can talk about turning around to return home (up until the moment that you actually begin your return journey, of course).
 

Drkmatter

Drkmatter
racer1 said:
It makes it awkward as I found my asp cannot maintain altitude when inverted for a better view at the g level. I have 4D thrusters with g3 dirty drives, anyone know if stronger thrusters would prevent this?
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Got a 5A thruster (no engineering) and same, i am not able to maintain altidude when upside down.
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Jaiotu said:
This is my understanding as well. When I was in the Navy and we'd go on a long deployment only part of the deployment was to reach our operating theater. Travel to and from that operating theater accounted for a very small portion of the actual deployment. Most of the time during an average six-month deployment would be spent "in theater" doing the job.

Here's a typical scenario:

1 month to transit the Atlantic from N. America, cross the Mediterranean, pass through the Suez Canal, exit the Red Sea and then finally arrive in the Persian Gulf. The next four months are spent operating inside the Persian gulf. This is followed by another month for the return journey. At any point along the journey you can talk about turning around to return home (up until the moment that you actually begin your return journey, of course).
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Ah, so are you agreeing with me that they may be just working in this area, or with the suggestion that they will have travelled further? In which case in what direction as they are already off the RR line; unless that was just The old lady's description of how Kahina could find the Rift & does not constrain this expedition's route. It suddenly seems to have got more complicated when I thought we were getting somewhere at last!
 

Jaiotu

Jaiotu
Jorki Rasalas said:
Ah, so are you agreeing with me that they may be just working in this area, or with the suggestion that they will have travelled further? In which case in what direction as they are already off the RR line; unless that was just The old lady's description of how Kahina could find the Rift & does not constrain this expedition's route. It suddenly seems to have got more complicated when I thought we were getting somewhere at last!
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I think that the settlements are some kind of staging post. Maybe a supply depot. The actual expedition might have ranged over a much wider area and simply returned to the settlement sites to replenish supplies. Supply vessels could have been coming and going from the bubble to the settlements and back while the "real" expedition departed from the supply settlements for exploration into the Rift. The reports would have been radioed back.

Basically ... I have a hard time giving up on the Reorte/Riedquat line. Too ingrained into my consciousness. So far the messages that have been discovered at the settlements don't offer any solid direction as to where we should look next. Hopefully, once we have the complete set of messages, we'll be able to piece together a clearer picture of what was going on at these sites.
 

CMDR_Mogriax

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Drkmatter said:
Got a 5A thruster (no engineering) and same, i am not able to maintain altidude when upside down.
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Quite normal, your flying an exploration spaceship not a fighter jet ( Ship launched fighters also drop like rocks :p). Most ships in elite cannot maintain altitude upside down on a planet over 1g
 
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Matzov

Matzov
Jaiotu said:
I think that the settlements are some kind of staging post. Maybe a supply depot. The actual expedition might have ranged over a much wider area and simply returned to the settlement sites to replenish supplies. Supply vessels could have been coming and going from the bubble to the settlements and back while the "real" expedition departed from the supply settlements for exploration into the Rift. The reports would have been radioed back.

Basically ... I have a hard time giving up on the Reorte/Riedquat line. Too ingrained into my consciousness. So far the messages that have been discovered at the settlements don't offer any solid direction as to where we should look next. Hopefully, once we have the complete set of messages, we'll be able to piece together a clearer picture of what was going on at these sites.
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For what little its worth, I endorse this message. With luck, the other bases and messages will be found soon, and at that point we'll have more detail. As someone rightly pointed out up-thread - we need to read them very carefully (to which I would add, we need to read them in the round. Right now we only have some of the picture).
 

CMDR_Mogriax

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Matzov said:
For what little its worth, I endorse this message. With luck, the other bases and messages will be found soon, and at that point we'll have more detail. As someone rightly pointed out up-thread - we need to read them very carefully (to which I would add, we need to read them in the round. Right now we only have some of the picture).
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Soon... These bases in the rift where fairly easy so far to find. the remaining two are going to be somewhat of a challenge. im not sure what the situation is in the other 2 areas but i feel without all the information we wont know for at least a month what the story progression is.
 

Stryka Choon

Stryka Choon
Assimilator1 said:
Stryka Choon
Careful reading indeed, the log never said the ship had been destroyed ;).

Jorki
The log says 3 mths before they can turn around and return, not simply return as if they were currently stationary.
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Doh! It's a fair cop, guv. Yes, the ship seems to have lost life support, but may well still be floating in space or indeed crashed on some godawful ice planet.
 

CMDR Poet Starwind

CMDR Poet Starwind
racer1 said:
It makes it awkward as I found my asp cannot maintain altitude when inverted for a better view at the g level. I have 4D thrusters with g3 dirty drives, anyone know if stronger thrusters would prevent this?
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No, my A rated thrusters g3 dirty plowed me into the surface of GL-Y E2 on a preivous Rift jaunt while I was looking at surface map. I was only 2k up, so I deserved it.
 

MissingSea

MissingSea
The last two remaining bases in the Gap are on reasonable sized planets, the HMC one has a radius of 1384km (24,070,329 km² surface area), while the icy world has a radius of 2841km (101,426,708 km² surface area). Those are some pretty big search areas, with the last one just under the surface area of Mars (144.8 million km²).
 

Sterlino

Sterlino
MissingSea said:
The last two remaining bases in the Gap are on reasonable sized planets, the HMC one has a radius of 1384km (24,070,329 km² surface area), while the icy world has a radius of 2841km (101,426,708 km² surface area). Those are some pretty big search areas, with the last one just under the surface area of Mars (144.8 million km²).
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as i previously said: there is no way to find a base in such huge area to search.
IF we will find something it will take a lot of time unless we will have precise location coordinates written somewhere (somehow).
 
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[VR] optimal_909

[VR] optimal_909
MissingSea said:
The last two remaining bases in the Gap are on reasonable sized planets, the HMC one has a radius of 1384km (24,070,329 km² surface area), while the icy world has a radius of 2841km (101,426,708 km² surface area). Those are some pretty big search areas, with the last one just under the surface area of Mars (144.8 million km²).
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I'm heading that way backwards from an exploration trip, still some 13kly out at the edge of the core, and will probably take me about 5 days to arrive there (as I have a low jumprange ship, but I'll try to strech my legs over the weekend). Anyway, once there, I'll join the efforts to find the remaining bases.
 

racer1

racer1
Iron Orchid said:
Any recommendations for ship, range and equipment for searching?
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30+ range is fine.
A ship with a good view through the canopy.
A fast ship, as you need to be in normal space.

I was out there in an asp which works fine. Was thinking I would bring better thrusters on my return. Also considered Courier/Clipper for speed.
 
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