Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

[Moritasgus]

OK i can confirm that the data is arranged like this:
Alpha - Biological
Beta - Cultural
Delta - Language
Epsilon - Technological
Gamma - Historical

 

[QorbeQ]

OK i can confirm that the data is arranged like this:
Alpha - Biological
Beta - Cultural
Delta - Language
Epsilon - Technological
Gamma - Historical

So what do double-results mean? (i.e. When you receive "Alpha Gamma"?

Also, from my own research scanning with an empty hold, each obelisk seems to return random results - there is no continuity or relationship to the "correct" combination.


o7

 

[Moritasgus]

So what do double-results mean? (i.e. When you receive "Alpha Gamma"?

Also, from my own research scanning with an empty hold, each obelisk seems to return random results - there is no continuity or relationship to the "correct" combination.


o7

I'm not sure, if you get more than one data type or even two of the same the game writes it to file still as those names and not its greek letter name.
So if you get 2x Beta data, your log will still register 2x cultural.

I've also noticed what you actually get seems somewhat random, so it may be nothing. It may not be part of the puzzle, just as you get random data from scanning a wake.

 

[CMDR T3RO I KTULU]

from ruins, barnards loop is rising


http://imgur.com/AHNccTj

edit: ( align to G from A ) ,340°

 

[andrewg_oz]

Currently I've scanned all 36 known data records, and because I've also got the bug where the mission cannot be claimed, I don't get to see definitive messages regarding successful scans. I still see error message, so I assume no message is a successful scan.

When that caveat, I've been mucking about in solo mode, testing obelisk scans and generally gathering data for the CG.

What I've found is that in all cases where the current spreadsheets list object+Relic as required, I've been able to complete the scan without error with just "object". I've pretty much convinced myself right now that Relics are not required for scanning obelisks.

Instead, I now think there must be some sort of reason Frontier have implemented a bright glowy thing that is elevated up to a height by an extending pillar. It can be seen for some distance and would make a good alignment tool. Aligning what, I don't know.

Also, has anyone successfully scanned all the obelisks in solo mode without error, in one instance without the game resetting on you? i.e. has anyone got the entire ruins site to go dark? (not counting the ancient objects lying about) I've almost made it twice before the game crashed, maybe third time lucky?

 

[QorbeQ]

Also, has anyone successfully scanned all the obelisks in solo mode without error, in one instance without the game resetting on you? i.e. has anyone got the entire ruins site to go dark? (not counting the ancient objects lying about) I've almost made it twice before the game crashed, maybe third time lucky?

Yes, I have (or, I *think* I have). I didn't note anything special but I also wasn't particularly looking. I will try again later (currently parked in Meene).

o7

 

[Rennard]

Currently I've scanned all 36 known data records, and because I've also got the bug where the mission cannot be claimed, I don't get to see definitive messages regarding successful scans. I still see error message, so I assume no message is a successful scan.

When that caveat, I've been mucking about in solo mode, testing obelisk scans and generally gathering data for the CG.

What I've found is that in all cases where the current spreadsheets list object+Relic as required, I've been able to complete the scan without error with just "object". I've pretty much convinced myself right now that Relics are not required for scanning obelisks.

Instead, I now think there must be some sort of reason Frontier have implemented a bright glowy thing that is elevated up to a height by an extending pillar. It can be seen for some distance and would make a good alignment tool. Aligning what, I don't know.

Also, has anyone successfully scanned all the obelisks in solo mode without error, in one instance without the game resetting on you? i.e. has anyone got the entire ruins site to go dark? (not counting the ancient objects lying about) I've almost made it twice before the game crashed, maybe third time lucky?

I've scaned the site in solo twice without crashing (only crash in pg/open) and received all 13 messages. Although I always got some messages stuck in the buffer that came through as doubles later.

 

[dynamicbob]

from ruins, barnards loop is rising


http://imgur.com/AHNccTj

edit: go down ( align to G from A ) ,340°

theres meant to be an undocumented settlement out there , a larger search is a good idea, it could hold the clue to additional ruin sites via hearld articles

 

[Insane4un]

Be carefully in open. Just above ruins some guy trying to fly around on his FDL and kill everyone. 3 railguns SP + 1 corrosive MC + 1 emmisive MC. Typical pvp fdl with no brain.

Manage to wake out on my trusty armored asp. However this guy is still there i suppose.

 

[dynamicbob]

This is awesome thinking! I'd love to see some of this in game.

wasnt mine, but i did get permission from the original poster to share the image ideas around, glad u guys agree its an awesome idea

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Well, just completed scanning all 489 systems in Barnard's Loop Sector, no sign of the Medium sec system - must be somewhere nearby. Only possible candidate I came across was the locked HD 294518 system, but pretty sure that's in Col 70, so not exciting. Only actively searched for systems named after Barnard's Loop, so I may have missed some, but my galaxy map has a nice black hole now when I filter on unvisited systems

I've been uploading into EDSM, and should have some nice explorer scans, so all good. Hopefully Davanix will post the location so we can confirm the dead-end - though why FD would lock a system they've just talked about is a mystery.

o7

Did you scan just the nebula systems or the thousands of other systems up and down that make up that nebula as well if nto 50000 plus, good work so far but youll need to cover all the non nebula systems as well.

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Be carefully in open. Just above ruins some guy trying to fly around on his FDL and kill everyone. 3 railguns SP + 1 corrosive MC + 1 emmisive MC. Typical pvp fdl with no brain.

Manage to wake out on my trusty armored asp. However this guy is still there i suppose.

There are some friendlies defending the sites, but open probably consists of dozens if not more of instances so it might just be the unlucky that get that specific unnamed commander

 

[ket halpak]

Has anyone with a UP tried taking it to the ruins to see what it spits out?

 

[dynamicbob]

Has anyone with a UP tried taking it to the ruins to see what it spits out?

Yeah ive done it myself, ive even done the UA in hold and scan the UP thing, my ship went all weeeeee

Ive UA bombed nearby black markets as well just to probe changes but nothing - i think the ram tah CG will yield the next ruins, or perhaps that undiscovered system in barnards loop sector but theres 100000+ systems out there or more that need scanning

 

[Mr.Dee]

http://imgur.com/l8tCM5J

you see the connection?

 

[dynamicbob]

http://imgur.com/l8tCM5J

you see the connection?

stonehenge used as an inspiration by Frontier its highly probable

 

[CmdrJonah]

So what do double-results mean? (i.e. When you receive "Alpha Gamma"?

Also, from my own research scanning with an empty hold, each obelisk seems to return random results - there is no continuity or relationship to the "correct" combination.


o7

I agree. I scanned two obelisks and the game crashed. On restart I was in exactly the same position so thought "Why Not scan again" it then returned a different result from before. Both failed scans, just different A, B, D, E, G results. So I am guessing this result is just random.

 

[hitchhiker54]

So what do double-results mean? (i.e. When you receive "Alpha Gamma"?

Also, from my own research scanning with an empty hold, each obelisk seems to return random results - there is no continuity or relationship to the "correct" combination.


o7

The random 1-2 items of data was there in the original ruins too. I'm 99% sure it has no bearing whatsoever on the current mission and is only there becuase it was overlooked/not important enough to remove the code for/fd thought it would b a red herring.

 

[Owsla]

hi,

my 2 cents

Spoiler

http://imgur.com/a/K9Cm5

If there is a latitude and longitude heading hidden within the aerial view of the ruins, I am sure this is the way to work it out.
I was thinking there could be something on the aerial view that resembles another ruin site,
perhaps it's the triangular mound in the top right hand corner, the one with the (To) to the right of it.

Perhaps the latitude and longitude heading of this point on the planets surface can be deduced using your method.

 

[Factabulous]

Did you scan just the nebula systems or the thousands of other systems up and down that make up that nebula as well if nto 50000 plus, good work so far but youll need to cover all the non nebula systems as well.

Interesting - how can I find which systems are in the nebula? I don't see anything in the Galaxy / System view (other than the background image for the nebula in the galaxy view), and nothing in edsm, but since you mention 50k systems I guess you have a better source - pls share. That last scan got me in closer to elite in exploration, so I'm up for a challenge (though probably not 50k solo !)

 

[CMDR T3RO I KTULU]

" whit the help of other like minded pilots I hope to use the various data types to unlock the Guardians monolith network and use it to find other sites " quote from RAM TAH

monolith network, NOT beacon ( data network = linked each other to something ) are LOCKED = more than 13/36 data ?
"use it to find other sites" . the clue maybe is inside one of data we miss

the ruins site is like a clock that match with coordinates system who use hour, minutes and second. It could be very fun to have all pilots waiting for holly alignment !! and watch all monolith unlocked.

I very like the idea of point of view( eye) from top pyramid point of the site and beacon gives alignment. We need just to know which planet/star ruins make reference and this clue is :
1 -in the sky view from ruin at exact clock
2 -in the data we miss


About clock, all players in the world have the same InGame time ?

 

[Maxulic]

OK i can confirm that the data is arranged like this:
Alpha - Biological
Beta - Cultural
Delta - Language
Epsilon - Technological
Gamma - Historical

You will need to explain how you came to this conclusion. My observations (obtaining different patterns at the same obelisk with the same artefacts in my hold) have lead me to believe that there is no correlation at all (or it is broken).