Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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Completing the mission doesn't result in anything new since the CG completed. You can also still get it after turning in, un-docking, then re-docking.

There are 2 missions involving ruins, one is repeatable currently, involves scanning obelisks with items in cargo, the second is just collecting data from obelisk, alpha, beta, gamma , epsilon, that junk that goes in your data inventory, the latter is the one that just finish.
 
Pareidolia: the ability to see patterns in random noise, this applies to things like cloud watching, while it is a remarkable ability that we have, it also has it's drawbacks when tied too much to imagination, it's led me on many wild goose chases when exploring planets, it's why I believe it's best not to say anything until it's been checked out in detail.
 
You know, people asked for putting down coordinates and other types of things regarding planet surfaces, and MB said they would consider that when the content "supported/needed it". I would say all of this definitely calls for it; otherwise, they're just yanking everyone around. Can any of you seriously tell me that it's justifiable that the Rifters are having to search every inch of those planets with all their graphic settings at low settings just so they can MAYBE see a settlement? I'm definitely aligned with Red Anders point of view on this; it's just not funny or cute anymore.

Amusingly enough guess what I was doing for the best part of last week before coming back to the bubble for this?

Hawking's Gap, doing exactly what you just said...

One thing Iv learnt is don't expect the FD team to do anything near what you think they should be doing - you'll only be disappointed again & again.

I thought that they'd changed, I only went out exploring, doing things like DWE, because I wasn't interested in the things that FD were improving & developing. Then the Jaques story came along. I spent months hanging around there week after week doing things in & out of system waitng for something to happen -FD drip fed improvements bit by bit.
Then came along the current initiative to develop the region. I thought it was a change from the norm, until the CG was announced - a smegging haul stuff 22k ly popularity contest. I left Jaques & returned to the bubble just in time to improve my fleet, then this came along.

It's different to what Im used to doing, so Im not bored with it yet & my expectation of how fast the story moves along isn't too high.
Frankly Im expecting it to be drip fed to us bit by bit, then future sites to be added at update 2.02.04.

To be honest, I'd be OK with this particular aspect of the game if it just worked. It's the fact that there seem to be myriad issues with it and nobody can even bother themselves to talk to us about it. One thing that particularly makes me laugh is that it was Obsidian Ant who made a thread asking for a comment and/or explanation what a week ago now? That's back on about page five of the forum because it was completely ignored. Now I don't do fanboying but seriously - how much publicity do you think FDev have got for this game, for free, from that guy? The guy who has a station in Maia named after him. But nope, nothing.
 
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Soooo, it's been more than 4 hours ... Respectfully and with courtesy - where is the master key? :)

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Just finished reading through the current site's full message set & think the only clue to the homeworld location is the message that it was populated by red skinned in the North and green skinned subspecies in the South. This must presumably relate to the class of star (binaries of different colour?) or the filtering effect of the atmosphere on the light of a single star with a planet axial tilt favouring one hemisphere. IFF we assume the warrior species or the green skinned subspe ies are the Thargoids, then can we assume the homeworkd has an ammonia atmosphere? How would that affect the colour of the starlight?

See my thread on the Guardians (did some art for it); https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...Elves-AKA-The-Guardians?p=5019696#post5019696

I hypothesized that they may be red-skinned because of the prey they hunted on their northern continent. Red vegetation/flowers -> northern herbivores/omnivores (turn red) -> carnivores (the Guardians). Could be something to do with the sun, but without some type of Melanin to block the sun, they'd fry like us.
 
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Amusingly enough guess what I was doing for the best part of last week before coming back to the bubble for this?

Hawking's Gap, doing exactly what you just said...



To be honest, I'd be OK with this particular aspect of the game if it just worked. It's the fact that there seem to be myriad issues with it and nobody can even bother themselves to talk to us about it. One thing that particularly makes me laugh is that it was Obsidian Ant who made a thread asking for a comment and/or explanation what a week ago now? That's back on about page five of the forum because it was completely ignored. Now I don't do fanboying but seriously - how much publicity do you think FDev have got for this game, for free, from that guy? The guy who has a station in Maia named after him. But nope, nothing.

Part of me thinks Frontier refuse to add in any tools for puzzles and exploration simply because they hope to wait us out. Cynical? Maybe. However, just looking at this one post was enough to make me lose faith in their designers: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ift-(Part-3)?p=5047709&viewfull=1#post5047709

If that's not enough, take a look at the player group who just found the latest Rift site: it took them 150 hours of manually searching a planet. That's more time spent looking at the color brown than you can put into multiple AAA games combined. Frontier continually make fruitless, bugged puzzles and often have to try to wrap things up with a CG (that godawful "Hunt" in August was the worst). Worst of all, nothing we did throughout all of this triggered the aliens; Frontier did that during a maintenance routine one day. Yes, I am mad. We should have proper exploration tools now that we're multiple years into ED's life, but no, all we have is a damn space honk and a compass.
 
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Part of me thinks Frontier refuse to add in any tools for puzzles and exploration simply because they hope to wait us out. Cynical? Maybe. However, just looking at this one post was enough to make me lose faith in their designers: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ift-(Part-3)?p=5047709&viewfull=1#post5047709

I have been concerned about this as I am sure everyone is, just how small things look, like a speck on the planets surface, near impossible to see with the eye in many cases.
However I only recently noticed something with the radar when searching planets.

Maybe this is already known, our eyes are not the only tool we have to find poi.
The radar picks up poi (blue circles) as you fly across the surface of a planet, but I noticed they only show up on the radar when at a height of about 4km,
if I dropped below this height to around 3km or 2km the blue poi circle disappeared.

When I increased height again to 4km the blue circle reappeared on the radar.
I know fly across the surface of a planet at only 4km height with radar set to maximum range,
I am finding poi far more often now, without seeing them with my eye's on the surface.
 
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hey guys wanted ti submit a new combination but it seems the spreadsheed is closed ... site g 35 casket + totem .. is not on the list but works the same as 33 casket+totem ( the one on the list ) works .. in the private round with mobius i had there where 3 guys that could also scan this obelisk with the totem and casket and got historical data plus 1million
 
Part of me thinks Frontier refuse to add in any tools for puzzles and exploration simply because they hope to wait us out. Cynical? Maybe. However, just looking at this one post was enough to make me lose faith in their designers: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ift-(Part-3)?p=5047709&viewfull=1#post5047709

If that's not enough, take a look at the player group who just found the latest Rift site: it took them 150 hours of manually searching a planet. That's more time spent looking at the color brown than you can put into multiple AAA games combined. Frontier continually make fruitless, bugged puzzles and often have to try to wrap things up with a CG (that godawful "Hunt" in August was the worst). Worst of all, nothing we did throughout all of this triggered the aliens; Frontier did that during a maintenance routine one day. Yes, I am mad. We should have proper exploration tools now that we're multiple years into ED's life, but no; all we have is a damn space honk and a compass.

Spot on, instead of adding more elements they just drag it out - if the game had more procedural content it could help.

We cant blame frontier fully though, they are in such a rush to sell as many copies as they can on multiple platforms, and get as many new features and graphical shinies out, that to much depth, or procedural content goes out the window.
 
I have been concerned about this as I am sure everyone is, just how small things look, like a speck on the planets surface, near impossible to see with the eye in many cases.
However I only recently noticed something with the radar when searching planets.

Maybe this is already known, our eyes are not the only tool we have to find poi.
The radar picks up poi (blue circles) as you fly across the surface of a planet, but I noticed they only show up on the radar when at a height of about 4km,
if I dropped below this height to around 3km or 2km the blue poi circle disappeared.

When I increased height again to 4km the blue circle reappeared on the radar.
I know fly across the surface of a planet at only 4km height with radar set to maximum range,
I am finding poi far more often now, without seeing them with my eye's on the surface.


That's been discussed numerous times in the rift thread; there are no POI notifications for ruins or the rift bases.

Spot on, instead of adding more elements they just drag it out - if the game had more procedural content it could help.

We cant blame frontier fully though, they are in such a rush to sell as many copies as they can on multiple platforms, and get as many new features and graphical shinies out, that to much depth, or procedural content goes out the window.

They get combat features out. DB even stated that multicrew was mainly for combat/pvp centric players. Yay...for them. Don't get me wrong, I'll gladly partake in combat when the aliens turn mean (you know they will) but as it stands, that area of the game has gotten so, so much more attention than anything else.

I've wanted to say this for a long time: Frontier are EXCELLENT engineers, but they are terrible game designers. This is just my opinion, so feel free to angrily tell me how wrong I am.
 
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That's been discussed numerous times in the rift thread; there are no POI notifications for ruins or the rift bases

I thought I must have been missing something there,
Well, frankly I think that's ridiculous,
why does a blue poi circle not appear?
It's very easy to implement it into the game.
 
I thought I must have been missing something there,
Well, frankly I think that's ridiculous,
why does a blue poi circle not appear?
It's very easy to implement it into the game.

Story wise, you'd think RAM TAH would have dropped a beacon on it by now, it's not like it's a mystery anymore.
 
Story wise, you'd think RAM TAH would have dropped a beacon on it by now, it's not like it's a mystery anymore.

Speaking of (cause I just can't quit), there wasn't even a mission system for his data scan mission. If you didn't bookmark it way back when or google its location, you just simply had no idea where it was he wanted you to go. I honestly cannot fathom why someone is being allowed to make decisions like these.
 
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Story wise, you'd think RAM TAH would have dropped a beacon on it by now, it's not like it's a mystery anymore.

Blue poi circles should appear on the radar for any structure on the surface,
even for the ruin sites we haven't yet found, and for all the Formidine rift bases.
 
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Speaking of (cause I just can't quit), there wasn't even a mission system for his data scan mission. If you didn't bookmark it way back when or google its location, you just simply had no idea where it was he wanted you to go. I honestly cannot fathom why someone is being allowed to make decisions like these.

We should be able to BM points of interest to be honest.

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Blue poi circles should appear on the radar for any structure on the surface,
even for the ruin sites we haven't yet found, and for all the Formidine rift bases.

but it seems they are more viewable up at 4-5km rather than 2-3km for certain things.
 
Speaking of (cause I just can't quit), there wasn't even a mission system for his data scan mission. If you didn't bookmark it way back when or google its location, you just simply had no idea where it was he wanted you to go. I honestly cannot fathom why someone is being allowed to make decisions like these.

I believe that's because it was found before it was ready, then a mad scramble by dev to make something of it, which obviously went south.
 
I believe that's because it was found before it was ready, then a mad scramble by dev to make something of it, which obviously went south.

...so they couldn't have added in a line of text stating the system name like every other mission in the game? I understand that xDeath found it before it was ready, but that was MONTHS ago. This mission is brand new.

Edit: Didn't mean to sound harsh; I'm just about fed up with how Frontier are handling this and I'm just frustrated.
 
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We should be able to BM points of interest to be honest.

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but it seems they are more viewable up at 4-5km rather than 2-3km for certain things.

Actually yes, I did notice that only recently,
it's just a shame that very important poi like the Formidine bases and ruin sites will not show a blue circle at all.
I don't quite understand it tbh.
If a blue poi circle showed up on the radar for those types of important structures, exploring a planets surface would be improved by 100%
 
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Speaking of (cause I just can't quit), there wasn't even a mission system for his data scan mission. If you didn't bookmark it way back when or google its location, you just simply had no idea where it was he wanted you to go. I honestly cannot fathom why someone is being allowed to make decisions like these.

Completely agree. Here is a great way to let people who do not visit reddit or the forum learn about the ruins. Mission just tells you to go to the ruins with no indication of coordinates not eve the planet. Guess the next update will include a galgoogle tab so we can galgoogle things.
 
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