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Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn
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This guy knows what's up.
Do we know yet if the extra obelisks being active when other Cmdrs are present is a bug because:
a) it shows us obelisks which shouldn't be active at the current site
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b) it shows us obelisks which shouldn't be instantly active (i.e. they should only be active in response to some specific user activity)
I'm hoping it's b), as that implies there's still a method/pattern to be discovered at the current ruins. Unless/until we find additional ruins, there doesn't seem to be very much to do otherwise.
a) it shows us obelisks which shouldn't be active at the current site
or
b) it shows us obelisks which shouldn't be instantly active (i.e. they should only be active in response to some specific user activity)
I'm hoping it's b), as that implies there's still a method/pattern to be discovered at the current ruins. Unless/until we find additional ruins, there doesn't seem to be very much to do otherwise.
And I was not explaining how an why photons are created nor was I talking about lights full spectrum. I was talking about what the human eye could perceive. You are the one who brought up the purely synthetic creation of light when fusing 2 single atoms. When a singular photon of light is emitted its not of enough intensity for the human eye to see. You keep presenting exacting situations that do not exist in nature. I explained how light works in the real universe and how our eyes see it. You explained how light is created in a sterile artificial environment.
Yeah, they do.
However, your image makes me realise that the missing "retaining prong" is on beacon A, facing the same direction as the second, smaller, circular feature of the ruins.
Does anyone know if the primary star of this system ever aligns with 0 degrees if you read the hexagonal wall structure as a compas ring, when standing in the centre of the site (tip of raised spur pointing down from top, larger, circle feature)?
Because if it does, these two stars would be just over the smaller circle feature at the same time, from the same vantage point. If I havent messed up my maths, that is.
https://i.imgur.com/muDheFd.jpg
This is what I was working at when the asp showed up. He's still there, watching.
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It sounds very similar to the SRV radar picking up faint signals. Were you in SRV or ship when recording, and if SRV, turret or driver position? (if you had posted this info earlier, i missed it, apologies)
Lastly, can anyone make anything of this using morse?
dynamicbob
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But generally there are so many bugs with nearly every bit of new content that u guys have inserted into the game and had to later patch or activate or plain fix that are you sure someone on the development team hasnt accidently activated the ability to insert random bookmarks into peopples galmap, or another bug where they go in randomly. ? May need to recheck that QandA process
I seriously have no idea you're talking about now. The trouble is neither do you.
At no point did I mention 'single atoms' fusing other than to point out that fusion is not even the mechanism that creates specific and predictable wavelengths of light. The behaviour of the 'real' universe is best understood by scientific theory, not the crackpot nonsense you're spouting.
Apologies to everyone else that this is still going on...
So anyway look mate, I'm not having a go at you and I'm not disparaging your efforts to work out characteristics of the guardians homeworld based on the information we have - I hope you don't think I'm knocking you on that front. But you can't expect to post things that fly in the face of current accepted physics without being called out on it.
I don't need you to.
Thank you! I don't need it, but thank you anyway!
Yeah sure there are. On the other hand, SR, GR, QFT, everything we know about particle physics etc. all disagree with you. So if you're going to turn that all on it's head, then great, amazing, but you're going to need like 7 or 8 sigma level of evidence at least.
Nope, it wasn't.
Well we can get into the nature of the vacuum, and to what extent a vacuum can exist in the universe due to trace amount of molecules if you want. And then we can go into a pure vacuum being a false vacuum, lowest energy states, the possibility of negative energy compared to the false vacuum state, and so on and so forth if you want. Seems a bit over the top for this forum but happy to do it if you really want.
Well given that everything I've said is pretty up to date with physics I'm not convinced I've made a bad statement. Feel free to point it out, but so far my apparent bad statements seem to have comprised of things I haven't actually said.
Errr... that's what I said. You're the one that was saying the source makes a difference.
Ok, this is just getting bizzare.
Yes it is. Well within the limits of the pure vacuum vs almost vacuum situation. Also what is your beef with visible light. It's just one small part of the EM spectrum. What about the rest of the spectrum?
Well... if you're talking about the fact that light is travelling through air or water, and then through the cornea etc. then you are correct, it is not travelling fully at c when it's detected. If it's not that and you're still talking about something inherent in the nature of visible light rather than the nature of the eye, then you might need to explain.
So anyway look mate, I'm not having a go at you and I'm not disparaging your efforts to work out characteristics of the guardians homeworld based on the information we have - I hope you don't think I'm knocking you on that front. But you can't expect to post things that fly in the face of current accepted physics without being called out on it.
There is no morse in this audio, unless you are hearing something I don't hear. He even said himself that the morse was only there too short for him to record. But in any way, I doubt this has any connection to the ruins. It's just a normal crashed ship POI. It could be different if the crash site is permanent. But I doubt it is.
And also because then the 4 beacon points might be the 4 stars relative to each other - A being Synuefe xr-h d11-102 the other 3 being where the Ark Ships went...
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Yeah sadly i wasn't able to grab the morse. The ship is gone but the sound was quite interesting
dynamicbob
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Yeah sadly i wasn't able to grab the morse. The ship is gone but the sound was quite interesting
The morse is only useful if it means something concrete - does it produce a set of numbers or a system map of sorts ?
No I don't hear it either, as i said it just sounds like the srv scanner to me.
dynamicbob
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quick side by side comparison should clear it up
Apologies to everyone else that this is still going on...
I don't need you to.
Thank you! I don't need it, but thank you anyway!
Yeah sure there are. On the other hand, SR, GR, QFT, everything we know about particle physics etc. all disagree with you. So if you're going to turn that all on it's head, then great, amazing, but you're going to need like 7 or 8 sigma level of evidence at least.
Nope, it wasn't.
Well we can get into the nature of the vacuum, and to what extent a vacuum can exist in the universe due to trace amount of molecules if you want. And then we can go into a pure vacuum being a false vacuum, lowest energy states, the possibility of negative energy compared to the false vacuum state, and so on and so forth if you want. Seems a bit over the top for this forum but happy to do it if you really want.
Well given that everything I've said is pretty up to date with physics I'm not convinced I've made a bad statement. Feel free to point it out, but so far my apparent bad statements seem to have comprised of things I haven't actually said.
Errr... that's what I said. You're the one that was saying the source makes a difference.
Ok, this is just getting bizzare.
Yes it is. Well within the limits of the pure vacuum vs almost vacuum situation. Also what is your beef with visible light. It's just one small part of the EM spectrum. What about the rest of the spectrum?
Well... if you're talking about the fact that light is travelling through air or water, and then through the cornea etc. then you are correct, it is not travelling fully at c when it's detected. If it's not that and you're still talking about something inherent in the nature of visible light rather than the nature of the eye, then you might need to explain.
So anyway look mate, I'm not having a go at you and I'm not disparaging your efforts to work out characteristics of the guardians homeworld based on the information we have - I hope you don't think I'm knocking you on that front. But you can't expect to post things that fly in the face of current accepted physics without being called out on it.
Holy god people. You are trying to tell me how light works. I am telling you how visible light is seen by a human.
Get over yourselves read a book and go away. Disputing a claim and actually proving its wrong are 2 different things. One relies on providing proof or knowing what ones talking about and the other requires the ability to think beyond your own ego. Both of which seem impossible by the 2 of you.
Neither of you have presented one piece of evidence to dispute my claim. Neither MadDog nor you can prove anything to me. You are just afraid to admit you are wrong and or not able to grasp the concept itself. You 2 are trying to win a forum dispute and cannot provide one single shred of evidence to the contrary. I am sorry if I hurt your egos but I am talking science and you are making up nonsense.
Light theory is a huge subject that is barely understood. I explained the simple concept of how the human eye sees in just the Human visible spectrum.
You two are diving into theory and just plain fiction. Again you are not able to prove me wrong. Until you do then you can shut it.
Better yet here is a primary school course for you to take. (http://www.pa.uky.edu/sciworks/lights.htm
http://www.qrg.northwestern.edu/projects/vss/docs/space-environment/3-why-dont-we-receive-light-from-all.html
https://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question13.html
Those 3 links shall do. 2 of them are designed for children and the other one has 2 big pictures. I hope you can finally get it and move on.
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Yeah sadly i wasn't able to grab the morse. The ship is gone but the sound was quite interesting
To me it has seemed like all sounds are just a little bit different around the ruins. The singing is there on other planets but it's much more subtle. I went on a few chases because I heard weird sounds on the scanner, a different frequency from what I was used to, but I just found a stash of liquor and a crashed fighter as well.
And awesome Sumerian which does look like the layout of the obelisks too
Actually, your science is sound, though the conclusion is slightly off... Red flora suggests an environment that provides the most efficient energy at the higher end of the spectrum - in essence your plants are soaking up everything with more energy than red light, suggesting your star is very bright with significant output in the blue/green visible range... That could possibly make it one of those gorgeous cyan coloured O types, or at the very least a leaning towards the A/B/O range (possibly an F at a push) though obviously you have to take that with a pinch of salt and figure out how its home planets atmosphere changed the signature wavelength of the parent star, as you correctly surmised.
Interestingly, as an aside, its speculated that a dimmer star would cause plants to turn black, in order to absorb more energy in the form of infra red. Strange but true.
My background is astrophysics rather than astrobiology, so I freely admit I could be very wrong, but my first instinct on reading the red northern tribes thing was that it was a thermal/light issue. In terrestrial animals, the pigment change seems to be required to assist in both reducing the damage done from strong energy sources, and actually allows the body to exchange heat with its environment more effectively. Whilst admittedly highly anthropically biased, I dont see a reason not to assume other life forms wouldn't do the same. A biologist I know likes to put it - in nature, if it can happen independently twice, evolution can create it an infinite number of times.
Personally, im not sure the specific colour matters a great deal, its the fact that there is a change at all that really matters. From this you can infer that the northern region gets more light, suggesting either an extreme axial tilt and tidal locking, or an extremely eccentric orbit that puts the southern "summer" a significant distance from the star whilst the northern summer is much much closer.
Either way, loving the discussion of actual practical science that the ruins have given us, if nothing else
Strictly speaking, the Guardians could avoid UV damage without changing their color. Things can be colorless to us but absorb UV light. Many proteins and nucleic acids have this property. We happen to produce colored melanin for this purpose, but the color isn't necessary.
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