Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn
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The image in the original post for my second quote here has them. Rather tiny, but has them.
http://imgur.com/a/yjbLG
(that was before they changed the ruins, but I don't think the markings changed?)
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I just did some quick calculations before I popped off to work. I calculated the declination of the 4 candidate systems measured from SYNUEFE XR-H D11-102 1A. Comparing these values to the latitude of the ruins it seems to me that two remain visible in the sky all the time, although one of those is really borderline (it is right in the margin of error for my calculations).
I rounded to the nearest tenth of a degree, taking the latitude of the ruins to be around -31.8:
IC 2391 SECTOR GW-V B2-4 dec -28.0 (partially visible)
IC 2391 SECTOR ZE-A D101 dec -31.7 (might be always visible - really low on horizon)
SYNUEFE XO-P C22-17 dec -43.0 (always visible)
SYNUEFE ZL-J D10-119 dec -27.6 (partially visible)
I don't know if this is significant; if line of sight is need for this network (an assumption) the ones that are always visible might hold some importance. Would appreciate somebody calculating these independently to confirm if they are accurate. I used WREGOE BW-E D11-74 as my reference for the *southern* celestial pole.
EDIT: I left the above as is but as I pointed out in a reply to myself below, even if the calculations are correct the final assertion I make about visibility are complete poop. In order for one of these to be visible for an entire cycle it would need a declination of -58.2 or greater (in a negative sense) based on 90 - 31.8. With this in mind, the only matter of mild interest is that IC 2391 SECTOR ZE-A D101 would appear directly overhead of the ruins once per cycle but this is probably more a coincidence than a significance.
I rounded to the nearest tenth of a degree, taking the latitude of the ruins to be around -31.8:
IC 2391 SECTOR GW-V B2-4 dec -28.0 (partially visible)
IC 2391 SECTOR ZE-A D101 dec -31.7 (might be always visible - really low on horizon)
SYNUEFE XO-P C22-17 dec -43.0 (always visible)
SYNUEFE ZL-J D10-119 dec -27.6 (partially visible)
I don't know if this is significant; if line of sight is need for this network (an assumption) the ones that are always visible might hold some importance. Would appreciate somebody calculating these independently to confirm if they are accurate. I used WREGOE BW-E D11-74 as my reference for the *southern* celestial pole.
EDIT: I left the above as is but as I pointed out in a reply to myself below, even if the calculations are correct the final assertion I make about visibility are complete poop. In order for one of these to be visible for an entire cycle it would need a declination of -58.2 or greater (in a negative sense) based on 90 - 31.8. With this in mind, the only matter of mild interest is that IC 2391 SECTOR ZE-A D101 would appear directly overhead of the ruins once per cycle but this is probably more a coincidence than a significance.
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I agree but it's a pretty unremarkable planet; lots of similar ones where I am...
Just want to point out that three of the systems are making a near perfect equilateral triangle :
IC 2391 Sector ZE-A d101
IC 2391 Sector GW-V b2-4
Synuefe XO-P c22-17
are all distant of 70-72 lyr from each other. Not quite a perfect triangle, but damn close.
The other 2 don't fit in. So it might all be an accident
IC 2391 Sector ZE-A d101
IC 2391 Sector GW-V b2-4
Synuefe XO-P c22-17
are all distant of 70-72 lyr from each other. Not quite a perfect triangle, but damn close.
The other 2 don't fit in. So it might all be an accident
Congrats on the (possible) discovery. Too bad that most part of this vast galaxy is just barren dusty rocks.
...all that's left for me is garbage and wrecks and sometimes escape pods of another Distant Whatever expedition. Not even a tribble! Not a fungi! Not even a germ! Damnit, I want a germ named after me!
I heard people saying that we maybe shouls look for a planet with a moon. I know the planet of the first ancient site had a moon but wouldn't moons around those planets be a hindrance for a line of sight based communication? I mean they would have to time the data transmission anyway since it will travel for years if we go by light speed and it would need to match up the planets rotation. It would need to arrive when the ruins are in line of sight. A moon just ads an unnecessary obstruction every now and then. A planet without one would be a better candidate for such a network. Although the planet might have had other properties to chose it over the others without a moon. But maybe I'm just overthinking it since there is no real species behind it and maybe FD didn't think that far.
Ach. You know what, even if these calculations are correct, my assertions about what is visible and what isn't is total pants. None of these systems is visible during an entire day ... hope I didn't waste anybody's time. It would need to be a declination of 90 - 31.8 (58.2) or greater to be always visible - none of these systems are in that range.
Well this is going to be a pain in the , none of the planets in IC 2391 Sector GW-V b2-4 even come close to having the same stats as the original ruins planet. Given that the sites wont load into view sub 10km and are impossible to find at night, without a pattern to follow this is going to be frustratingly painful.
Thinking along the lines of backward solving, if the ruins are a star map that point to these locations. I went ahead and made said star chart. Are all these stars visible at the same time, and can we align the ruins to match them and surrounding stars?
Here's a rude, crude, ruin made star chart and constellations (generously defined):
Edit: I'd wager the two big circles are reference points and the ditches that align with the star's path is used for 'timing'. So, when star in ditch this map should work type-o-dealio.
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I suggest again that overlaying the relative locations of the original ruins system, and the four new ones, over the first set of ruins may yet yield clues as to where to look in each of those new system.
I'm at work for 5 more hours, or I'd do it myself right now.
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