Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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And not that accurate, I don't mean your overlay, example is B3 relic tower, it's right next to the base of the pyramid. https://imgur.com/a/RVZBN#6XexGII

I agree with you, I think this was just coincidental. twisting and rotating to get the relic by the pyramid and relic on top of 'main' platform skew the other two. Maybe someone else can do better, but I believe this perspective on the systems is not validated by the known ruin map.
 
Wow, lots of new information today! Sucks that I’m at work and have dinner plans tonight, you’ll probably have it all figured out by the time I can log back into the game, LOL!!!!



Most likely we never had enough to work with in order to figure it out, especially seeing how the ruins themselves changed so much after 2.2. I just don’t think it was possible. I’ve already checked all four potential systems from Ram Tah against my stellar map theory, I was never anywhere even close to predicting the systems. Looks like my map idea was totally wrong afterall.

The real question is: do the current ruins in any way physically predict the systems we are now looking at? If we can figure that out, it would greatly help to narrow down the search area.

This whole mess has really brought out the cynical side in me...especially the absolute definitive reassurance that this had all been tested and was working as intended. The cynical part of me is now feeling as if none of this will actually be fully solvable by us. Wouldn't surprise me if the reboots had nothing at all to do with this mystery, and that the message from Ram will keep the wheels spinning, and sites will be added in during the normal window in a couple of days. Then there will be much rejoicing and speculation for a few weeks until some other hint is dropped, then a few days later, something will be injected during the normal maintenance window...all the while instancing, issues, adjudication errors, crash to desktops abound, spurrious data...and it was fully tested and working as intended.
 
Yes, 4 of the 5 known systems can be correlated to the 4 beacons (which I've been thinking for the last 72 hours!), and from there I think we can back engineer more clues on how we could have figured it out. But am at work for hours yet.


That’s interesting. It may be prudent to ignore the outlier system for now and focus on the ones which correspond to the beacons. I noticed when checking the new systems against my map that they all are relatively “flat” with the current ruin system on the galactic plane, all at roughly -50 lys in the galactic Y axis.
 
Yes, 4 of the 5 known systems can be correlated to the 4 beacons (which I've been thinking for the last 72 hours!), and from there I think we can back engineer more clues on how we could have figured it out. But am at work for hours yet.

It is easy to see correlation now, when we know system names and can visualize them with bookmarks, but to do it "blindly" with the only help of current ruins and monolith alignment, it is virtually impossible due to there being too much planets that could stacked too close to each other in a 2D plane. Ofcourse it is possible that Synuefe XO-P c22-17 would hold more clue to other locations, because if my teory is indeed right, then ruin geometry around monlith 1B should be telling us which system to look for. But then again, it is easy to say now, when we know coordinates, and even then we dont know for sure whether my theory is even remotely correct.

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I agree with you, I think this was just coincidental. twisting and rotating to get the relic by the pyramid and relic on top of 'main' platform skew the other two. Maybe someone else can do better, but I believe this perspective on the systems is not validated by the known ruin map.

note that on my screenshot, which was used for overlay image, systems were not aligned anywhere near perfectly, it was more of a sketch to illustrate my point. For overlay you need more precise camera angle.
 
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Isn't that just the orbital line? Would need something which shows the location of the ruins plus where the poles are located. But anyway, I'm 100% sure that it wasn't near the poles.

the blue marker is where the ruins were the lines top and bottom should be the poles.
 
New theory

Bold to get attention. The obelisks patterns tell what planet to search on.

Yes, some pictures of new systems suggest they align with beacons, but we need to look at those new systems from the perspective of the old ruin site. The obelisks arrangement and patterns might be the key to what planet we need to focus on. Remember, FD moved them around after we found them. They probably did this on purpose, because the positioning/count of the obelisks have significance.

Pretty simple to test, lets get some pics from inside the system or at the old ruin site with the other systems highlighted up. See if there's an alignment to beacons,, obelisks positions, geometries around the obelisks. Its fairly possible the geometries and or obelisk counts tell us exactly where we need to look.
 
It is easy to see correlation now, when we know system names and can visualize them with bookmarks, but to do it "blindly" with the only help of current ruins and monolith alignment, it is virtually impossible due to there being too much planets that could stacked too close to each other in a 2D plane.

This is true, but I've been sure tthat the beacons represent something since I first saw them on Friday/Saturday. When the lore data started coming in, I naturally inclined towards them being the homeworld, and the 3 Ark Ship colonies. Having a 4th system revealed doesn,t change my gut feeling, especially when 4 can be aligned with the beacons.

I think from here it can be walked through backwards to find the "key" we missed, and apply that to figuring out where exactly to look.

That'll be my focus tonight when I get home, rather than rushing to the new systems. My trying to back-seat drive through the forum whilst I'm at work is just frustrating me, and everyone else, I think ;)
 
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So... found a planet in IC SECTOR ZE-A D101 that has nearly all its characteristics similar to the current ruins... Planet C 3 has a surface temp of exactly 300K... the same as the ruins... and the rotational period is 7.5 days. and yes its tidally locked but its orbital period is 7.5 days so really the days and nights are 7.5! close to the current ruins which have 6.9... the gravity is 0.22 and the radius is 1,505km... close to the current 1,122km
 
oh also, side thought. I was having a bit of fun with debug camera at original site and went underground. there are floaty things under the site. Not sure what it was and wish i had taken a screenshot, but maybe that could be a way to find it on the new planets.

I saw those too a while back, underneath the beacon next to the small circle, they look like some sort of timer as one travels in a circle between three that are in a triangle shape, sadly they are only about 10m from the surface and hard to see from a distance so we wont be able to use them to find others
 
Oh, also look closely at the planetary info (I'm sure you all are) - Tidally Locked planets with No Volcanism are probably the better candidates, especially if they are binary planets or a planet and moon combo. These planets likely provide longer coverage at any given time etc.

The first planet I'm taking a look at is Synuefe XO-P c22-17 C 2. It has a Tidally Locked 9.2 day rotational period. The gravity is .31 G. No luck so far though.
 
New theory

Bold to get attention. The obelisks patterns tell what planet to search on.

Yes, some pictures of new systems suggest they align with beacons, but we need to look at those new systems from the perspective of the old ruin site. The obelisks arrangement and patterns might be the key to what planet we need to focus on. Remember, FD moved them around after we found them. They probably did this on purpose, because the positioning/count of the obelisks have significance.

Pretty simple to test, lets get some pics from inside the system or at the old ruin site with the other systems highlighted up. See if there's an alignment to beacons,, obelisks positions, geometries around the obelisks. Its fairly possible the geometries and or obelisk counts tell us exactly where we need to look.

Lets do both!
 
Basing off of similarities and distinct qualities of the current site I used EDSM to look at the listed sites. I looked for bodies with a Orbital period and rotational period opposite each other and if possible a moon.

Here's the first site

Synuefe ZL-J d10-119
https://www.edsm.net/en/system/id/8850999/name/Synuefe+ZL-J+d10-119
Star Class:F

Body of interest
Synuefe ZL-J d10-119 13 c - https://www.edsm.net/en/system/bodi...s/idB/1709550/nameB/Synuefe+ZL-J+d10-119+13+c

Orbital period: 3.7
Rotational period: -3.7
Moon: Yes
 
I am still at site 1, so if we can get the area of the 5th system I'd be happy to run out there and see what I find :)

Can you select the new systems in the galaxy map and then go back to the view from the ruins to see if the new systems line up with any landmarks from a certain spot within the ruins?
 
I am still at site 1, so if we can get the area of the 5th system I'd be happy to run out there and see what I find :)

What is this 5th system talk? Isn't the system with site #1 the 5th system so it doesn't need a beacon? As I said earlier, I guess each beacon corresponds to one of the other ancient sites as some kind of transmitter. It doesn't need a beacon for itself
so we have 4 beacons and each stands for one of the other systems.
 
Can you select the new systems in the galaxy map and then go back to the view from the ruins to see if the new systems line up with any landmarks from a certain spot within the ruins?

yeah you can select it using the orange marker but dont plot a course and it should show when you get back to cockpit view
 
What is this 5th system talk? Isn't the system with site #1 the 5th system so it doesn't need a beacon? As I said earlier, I guess each beacon corresponds to one of the other ancient sites as some kind of transmitter. It doesn't need a beacon for itself
so we have 4 beacons and each stands for one of the other systems.

Yeah, but I was under the impression the images posted include the 1st site and 3 of the new, leaving one new site out. I'm sneaking quick looks whilst at work though, and may have misread an image at some point.
 
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Is it possible to take an image of the skybox at the old ruins (system?) looking at these new sites?

It may be that there's some clue in where they are positioned? (constellations, a nebula in the background etc?)
 
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What is this 5th system talk? Isn't the system with site #1 the 5th system so it doesn't need a beacon? As I said earlier, I guess each beacon corresponds to one of the other ancient sites as some kind of transmitter. It doesn't need a beacon for itself
so we have 4 beacons and each stands for one of the other systems.

It's only system and site number 1 because it was found first. No reason to believe it is the hub.
 
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